545 mile day tomorrow....

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jason61c

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I've a 'round robin' trip tomorrow.

535 miles. First long drive in an EV, not really the target journey for one either.

However I'm going into it with an open mind. it'll be interesting to see how it goes........

jason61c

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it'll be interesting to see how far it'll go at motorway speed. it should hopefully do 200 miles

jason61c

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andy43 said:
Yeah, what car is the important question. And this weather really isn’t helping range!
Tesla model 3, 'long range'. which isn't really that much longer than the normal one.

The cars satnav is racist though so only shows Tesla chargers, not worked out how to get it to show others.

jason61c

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Exeter>Grantham>Lincoln>Nottingham>Exeter

jason61c

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Its set to preheat.

Grantham superchargers are 238miles from home.... I doubt it'll get that far!?

jason61c

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Sat showing 100% and 341 miles of range.

Fingers crossed for 200 at motorway speed

jason61c

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Tuesday 28th December 2021
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As an update, stopped at hopwood park, about 13 empty chargers, getting 122kw.

Did 150miles to here, at 310 wh/mi. Weather is rubbish!!

jason61c

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Now starting the homeward leg.

Just to add, zero range angst, the fact it’ll do over 200 miles on a dark very wet winter motorway trip is ace.

Looks like I didn’t get charged for my first charge either!? Currently left the mothers, 20 mins at Nottingham, charging at 200 kw.

As a long range ev newbie. Totally no effort. Get in the car, stop when it says, the off you go.

I think the ‘fun’ is beating the system. My gut tells me I could have got to Grantham without stopping. However for the sake of the first 10 min stop, it’s not worth the risk(at this point).

It has been nicely planted with all the standing water on the motorway.

I think in my old car, it’d been about 20 mins less of stopping so far.

Auto wipers are crap. Stereo is ace.

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aestetix1 said:
Oof. Wouldn't want to be stuck in a Model 3 that long.
The cars been pretty much spot on.

jason61c

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Just Landed back home(19.47). Stopped at hopwood park again, hoping for a free charge like this AM..... no luck smile

Last 150miles 277 wh/mi.

Basically it was zero issue at all, now that might just be the charging network, however as a 'tool'. the car did what it needed to.

The auto wipers are crap, as the last ones on the bmw and Mercedes I had worked perfectly. They were also consistent. the tesla wipers aren't. The ACC gets confused with cars around sometimes.

I went for this car for its charging network and motorway range. Today it proved me right on those metrics.

The ride is better on the motorway than on A roads, Seats are good(not as good as an E-class).


jason61c

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LordFlathead said:
Bloody hell are you alright? hehe

A (semi) positive post about a Tesla?! Anyway glad you found it seamless - it is thanks to the Supercharging network.

Regarding the crap wipers... if you have the latest updates with the new dashboard design, you can pin your favourite apps to the taskbar at the bottom. This makes it much easier.
the car feels so much better than the one I tried 18 months ago. smile I do miss 'luxury' though.

Yes to the new Software, its just how the auto wipers work.

I miss multi beam headlights also! however I can't blame that on the car.

The stereo is really good though. same as the single pedal drive.



jason61c

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findtomdotcom said:
We have just swapped our Tesla M3 Performance for a Taycan and will do our first long drive in it tomorrow.

The M3 was quite a good car to be fair. I hated the bongs and the auto wipers, (they are incredibly poor), but the charging network is peerless.

Will the Taycan be as good long range? Well tomorrow will tell, but in and out of London, short hops to work etc, it is indeed quite exceptional.
I did think about one as a salary sacrifice car. The lead times were massive though.

in 3 years smile

jason61c

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Wednesday 29th December 2021
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Also, no I've worked it out.

Its no cheaper than having a car doing circa 50mpg on a 'run'. Think the whole day cost me about 40mins extra(which isn't that bad).

As someone mentioned above, the key is to charge when your car will take the greatest 'pull' off the charger, so like a longer splash and dash.

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Wednesday 29th December 2021
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Evanivitch said:
Richard-G said:
surely its got to be cheaper than a car doing 50mpg? thats suprising!

mine has just updated and the auto wipers definately worked bettter on the way into work this morning.
It used to be fair to say that public rapid charging (and certainly the very fastest chargers) aren't intended to provide the best value for money. Home charging is where all the savings are (and the odd free public options)

That situation is a bit grey at the moment as domestic electric prices are capped circa 21p but that's likely to grow significantly.

Then there's the savings from congestion charges etc
Yep, I think I've ended up with a car that will easily cost more to run than my old 3.0l twin turbo diesel. with some extra faff added in.

Currently I'm on a capped tariff at home, all that will change when the caps are lifted next year.

There's a sensible discussion to be had about the cost savings(not existing) along with any 'green' benefits and how they're calculated.

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its only motorway speeds where an ICE still might have the edge.

over every other type of use, the BEV will use less 'energy'.


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Max_Torque said:
jason61c said:
its only motorway speeds where an ICE still might have the edge.

over every other type of use, the BEV will use less 'energy'.
er, a BEV uses less energy at at every speed!

A BEV doing a terrible 2.5 ml/kWh is still doing the equivalent of 120 mpg in energy consumption terms!

(and my little i3 can do over 6ml/kWh (~275 mpg) if driven very carefully. Name an ICE 4 seat mid sized car that gets to 60 in 6.9 sec and can do very nearly 300 mpg :-))
I'm basing it on MPGe and cost of fuel at services for fuel+electricity