32A garage socket suitable for EV cable?

[saaby93]

Can you connect an EV to one of these in the garage?

https://www.toolstation.com/industrial-socket-ip67...

[saaby93]

blank said:

Not without an "EVSE" in between to do the communication and allow the charging to start.

Is that what you get with a 13A cable? Can you get one for 32A?

[saaby93]

J1772 looks as if it might work with just L N and E connected through
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772

[saaby93]

NDA said:

saaby93 said:

Can you connect an EV to one of these in the garage?

https://www.toolstation.com/industrial-socket-ip67...

Sort of.

I have a 32amp commando socket charging my EV. The socket goes the Tesla connector which then goes to the car... The Tesla connector has interchangeable 'tails' - 13amp, 16amp and 32amp.

However.... my socket required dedicated 40amp cabling from my fusebox to the socket along with proper earthing and RCD/RCB things. It was done by an electrician, not me. The commando socket I have is a fairly substantial looking thing with a couple of it's own RCD/RCB things on it.

So yes, you can power an EV from a commando socket quite easily - but there's some work to do to ensure it's done properly.

It has 40A cable and RCD at the fuse box.
Checking another forum the EV regs apply to new wiring so anything existing can stay as is

[saaby93]

georgeyboy12345 said:

Which car are you thinking of buying Saaby?

The idea was to see what visitors could use

[saaby93]

TheDeuce said:

TimmyMallett said:

Doe the average person have to worry about all this? I'm not an ev owner, I have been consider it this year but this all seems unnecessarily complicated?

Well... no. The average person gets a proper charger installed and never thinks about it again.

Like most things in life, you can save a few quid and go a semi/full DIY route which is also fine imo, so long as you understand what you're doing and are confident and competent.

If you buy an EV and get a pro to fit a charger it's as easy as it can be - literally plug and play. Easier than going out of your way to fill up an ICE for sure. What can be easier than waking up with a full tank each morning?

Its not about an installation for an EV though
It's whether the 32A outlet can be used if you have a visitor with an EV
Is there a low cost way they can use the outlet? The J1772 standard looks pretty straightforward

[saaby93]

Is this good enough to connect into the 32A socket?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125197421564?

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Evanivitch said:

saaby93 said:

Is this good enough to connect into the 32A socket?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125197421564?

No. That's just a tethered cable to attach to a wall mounted EVSE. There's a communication interface missing.

is the communications handled in the handset?
ETA
Maybe not I see there is Live Neutral Earth plus a red wire

Edited by saaby93 on Saturday 12th March 22:33

[saaby93]

Evanivitch said:

saaby93 said:

is the communications handled in the handset?

In the "brick".

https://www.romatech.co.uk/ohme-intelligent-ev-cha...

Thats way OTT though - contains Apps and all sorts

[saaby93]

jason61c said:

I know a couple of people with a 32A 'commando'. No issues at all. its a 'multi use' socket so you don't need all the timing crap added on.

What do they use to plug into it?

[saaby93]

Would it help if the 32A socket was only powered with the night storage heaters