Jag XKR vs. C63 Coupe
Discussion
Budget is up to ~28k so looking at specifically the 5.0 s/c XKR and C63 coupe which are now "just" in budget.
Would love to hear off owners of each and owners that have owned both. What are they like to live with, running costs, reliability, any trips to across the continent?
Driven both but haven't been able to get any serious drive time in either, frustrating and not sure if it's just me but dealers seem to be all about 'buying it now, test driving it on the way home'.
The XKR I've had less drive time in than the C63, which incidentally I used to drive every other few days working for Merc but it's entirely different with the purchasing head on and this was now years ago.
My thoughts:
I think the XKR is absolutely gorgeous! The engine is brutal, gearbox very sharp/quick for a torque converter auto, interior is a nice place to be and has loads of extras from the 16 way seats to adaptive Cruise etc. Comfy and obviously very GT I found. Cons for me are the although not really required useless backseats and the boots also tiny despite the fact it's got a huge lid. Infotainment system is also a bit slow, clumsy and dated. Exhaust is quite muted I thought. Also don't know much about Jaguar which worries me on the reliability front.
C63 has that unbelievable engine & exhaust note and when you sit in it you get the feeling it just wants to be driven, sheer opposite to the XKR. When I worked for Merc (10 years!) it was always the car that I wanted 'one day'. The whole car is a bit more usable & practical, seats, boot etc (don't necessarily need this but do have hobbies that require some space). Looks good, very aggressive. Interiors something I've grown up with and always been used a benchmark for me personally. I know them well and have good connections to dealers. Cons unless you know, they look similar to a diesel C with AMG pack on which takes a huge chunk of the appeal away of having a special car, they all seem to have Pan roofs?! Gearbox is very slow although smooth. I prefer the interior of the Jag, but the infotainment systems better and individual controls in the Merc.
Any pictures, views, stories etc much appreciated. Well on the fence, with a slight lean
Cheers
Would love to hear off owners of each and owners that have owned both. What are they like to live with, running costs, reliability, any trips to across the continent?
Driven both but haven't been able to get any serious drive time in either, frustrating and not sure if it's just me but dealers seem to be all about 'buying it now, test driving it on the way home'.
The XKR I've had less drive time in than the C63, which incidentally I used to drive every other few days working for Merc but it's entirely different with the purchasing head on and this was now years ago.
My thoughts:
I think the XKR is absolutely gorgeous! The engine is brutal, gearbox very sharp/quick for a torque converter auto, interior is a nice place to be and has loads of extras from the 16 way seats to adaptive Cruise etc. Comfy and obviously very GT I found. Cons for me are the although not really required useless backseats and the boots also tiny despite the fact it's got a huge lid. Infotainment system is also a bit slow, clumsy and dated. Exhaust is quite muted I thought. Also don't know much about Jaguar which worries me on the reliability front.
C63 has that unbelievable engine & exhaust note and when you sit in it you get the feeling it just wants to be driven, sheer opposite to the XKR. When I worked for Merc (10 years!) it was always the car that I wanted 'one day'. The whole car is a bit more usable & practical, seats, boot etc (don't necessarily need this but do have hobbies that require some space). Looks good, very aggressive. Interiors something I've grown up with and always been used a benchmark for me personally. I know them well and have good connections to dealers. Cons unless you know, they look similar to a diesel C with AMG pack on which takes a huge chunk of the appeal away of having a special car, they all seem to have Pan roofs?! Gearbox is very slow although smooth. I prefer the interior of the Jag, but the infotainment systems better and individual controls in the Merc.
Any pictures, views, stories etc much appreciated. Well on the fence, with a slight lean
Cheers
Classy6 said:
Budget is up to ~28k so looking at specifically the 5.0 s/c XKR and C63 coupe which are now "just" in budget.
Would love to hear off owners of each and owners that have owned both. What are they like to live with, running costs, reliability, any trips to across the continent?
Driven both but haven't been able to get any serious drive time in either, frustrating and not sure if it's just me but dealers seem to be all about 'buying it now, test driving it on the way home'.
The XKR I've had less drive time in than the C63, which incidentally I used to drive every other few days working for Merc but it's entirely different with the purchasing head on and this was now years ago.
My thoughts:
I think the XKR is absolutely gorgeous! The engine is brutal, gearbox very sharp/quick for a torque converter auto, interior is a nice place to be and has loads of extras from the 16 way seats to adaptive Cruise etc. Comfy and obviously very GT I found. Cons for me are the although not really required useless backseats and the boots also tiny despite the fact it's got a huge lid. Infotainment system is also a bit slow, clumsy and dated. Exhaust is quite muted I thought. Also don't know much about Jaguar which worries me on the reliability front.
C63 has that unbelievable engine & exhaust note and when you sit in it you get the feeling it just wants to be driven, sheer opposite to the XKR. When I worked for Merc (10 years!) it was always the car that I wanted 'one day'. The whole car is a bit more usable & practical, seats, boot etc (don't necessarily need this but do have hobbies that require some space). Looks good, very aggressive. Interiors something I've grown up with and always been used a benchmark for me personally. I know them well and have good connections to dealers. Cons unless you know, they look similar to a diesel C with AMG pack on which takes a huge chunk of the appeal away of having a special car, they all seem to have Pan roofs?! Gearbox is very slow although smooth. I prefer the interior of the Jag, but the infotainment systems better and individual controls in the Merc.
Any pictures, views, stories etc much appreciated. Well on the fence, with a slight lean
Cheers
I have a C63 (and have test driven the Ftype V8 with the same engine as the XKR) and will respond to some of your points. I assume you're referring to the facelift C63 (quite a big difference between this and the pre-facelift):Would love to hear off owners of each and owners that have owned both. What are they like to live with, running costs, reliability, any trips to across the continent?
Driven both but haven't been able to get any serious drive time in either, frustrating and not sure if it's just me but dealers seem to be all about 'buying it now, test driving it on the way home'.
The XKR I've had less drive time in than the C63, which incidentally I used to drive every other few days working for Merc but it's entirely different with the purchasing head on and this was now years ago.
My thoughts:
I think the XKR is absolutely gorgeous! The engine is brutal, gearbox very sharp/quick for a torque converter auto, interior is a nice place to be and has loads of extras from the 16 way seats to adaptive Cruise etc. Comfy and obviously very GT I found. Cons for me are the although not really required useless backseats and the boots also tiny despite the fact it's got a huge lid. Infotainment system is also a bit slow, clumsy and dated. Exhaust is quite muted I thought. Also don't know much about Jaguar which worries me on the reliability front.
C63 has that unbelievable engine & exhaust note and when you sit in it you get the feeling it just wants to be driven, sheer opposite to the XKR. When I worked for Merc (10 years!) it was always the car that I wanted 'one day'. The whole car is a bit more usable & practical, seats, boot etc (don't necessarily need this but do have hobbies that require some space). Looks good, very aggressive. Interiors something I've grown up with and always been used a benchmark for me personally. I know them well and have good connections to dealers. Cons unless you know, they look similar to a diesel C with AMG pack on which takes a huge chunk of the appeal away of having a special car, they all seem to have Pan roofs?! Gearbox is very slow although smooth. I prefer the interior of the Jag, but the infotainment systems better and individual controls in the Merc.
Any pictures, views, stories etc much appreciated. Well on the fence, with a slight lean
Cheers
I bought mine in June this year and absolutely adore it. I took it up to the evo triangle in July where it was an absolute weapon. Cruised up in complete comfort and then dispatched the triangle. Car was far more neutral than i expected - the front really bites and the you can easily feel the rear coming into play and take the appropriate action. Brakes are good but you do feel the weight into higher speed braking zones.
The car has been completely reliable thus far and very easy to live with. The panoramic roof is a must have - really lightens the interior and is fantastic in the summer. It also allows you to hear more of the V8 noise in tunnels etc.
The gearbox isn't slow on the facelift cars, it just isn't as lightning quick as DCT equipped cars. I test drove an M4 at the same time I was looking at the 63 and there is a noticeable difference between the two. However, in its own right the MCT is not bad at all and you cease to worry about it very quickly.
The engine is epic - always feels incredibly special, angry and powerful. It needs around 4000 revs to really get going (same in any N/A car) but once there the pull is formidable. The Jag will have more low down torque and will be more point and squirt but it won't give you the same feeling of laugh out loud excitement that C63 engine will. They also remap extremely easily to 520bhp if you feel it needs more.
Surprised by your interior comment. Again assuming you're talking about facelift cars my view is that the C class interior is a more modern place to be. Haven't spent enough time in an XKR to know about materials but you need to remember that they were in a different price league when new.
Finally, i've kept an eye on the market since buying mine and prices genuinelly seem to be increasing. Sub-15K mile cars are now well over 35k - they weren't six months ago. Many people who have bought the new version actually prefer their old car better. They have fantastic amounts of charachter for a series production German coupe. They always feel up for attacking a piece of road and always feel on your side. Almost like you're riding a dragon that's only loyal to you!
Finally, fuel consumption is horrendous. I get about 14mpg out of mine when driven spirtitedly or in town. It can go down to 10 if you're somewhere like the triangle. Oh so worth it though.
mikearwas said:
I have a C63 (and have test driven the Ftype V8 with the same engine as the XKR) and will respond to some of your points. I assume you're referring to the facelift C63 (quite a big difference between this and the pre-facelift):
I bought mine in June this year and absolutely adore it. I took it up to the evo triangle in July where it was an absolute weapon. Cruised up in complete comfort and then dispatched the triangle. Car was far more neutral than i expected - the front really bites and the you can easily feel the rear coming into play and take the appropriate action. Brakes are good but you do feel the weight into higher speed braking zones.
The car has been completely reliable thus far and very easy to live with. The panoramic roof is a must have - really lightens the interior and is fantastic in the summer. It also allows you to hear more of the V8 noise in tunnels etc.
The gearbox isn't slow on the facelift cars, it just isn't as lightning quick as DCT equipped cars. I test drove an M4 at the same time I was looking at the 63 and there is a noticeable difference between the two. However, in its own right the MCT is not bad at all and you cease to worry about it very quickly.
The engine is epic - always feels incredibly special, angry and powerful. It needs around 4000 revs to really get going (same in any N/A car) but once there the pull is formidable. The Jag will have more low down torque and will be more point and squirt but it won't give you the same feeling of laugh out loud excitement that C63 engine will. They also remap extremely easily to 520bhp if you feel it needs more.
Surprised by your interior comment. Again assuming you're talking about facelift cars my view is that the C class interior is a more modern place to be. Haven't spent enough time in an XKR to know about materials but you need to remember that they were in a different price league when new.
Finally, i've kept an eye on the market since buying mine and prices genuinelly seem to be increasing. Sub-15K mile cars are now well over 35k - they weren't six months ago. Many people who have bought the new version actually prefer their old car better. They have fantastic amounts of charachter for a series production German coupe. They always feel up for attacking a piece of road and always feel on your side. Almost like you're riding a dragon that's only loyal to you!
Finally, fuel consumption is horrendous. I get about 14mpg out of mine when driven spirtitedly or in town. It can go down to 10 if you're somewhere like the triangle. Oh so worth it though.
Thanks for the elaborate insight I bought mine in June this year and absolutely adore it. I took it up to the evo triangle in July where it was an absolute weapon. Cruised up in complete comfort and then dispatched the triangle. Car was far more neutral than i expected - the front really bites and the you can easily feel the rear coming into play and take the appropriate action. Brakes are good but you do feel the weight into higher speed braking zones.
The car has been completely reliable thus far and very easy to live with. The panoramic roof is a must have - really lightens the interior and is fantastic in the summer. It also allows you to hear more of the V8 noise in tunnels etc.
The gearbox isn't slow on the facelift cars, it just isn't as lightning quick as DCT equipped cars. I test drove an M4 at the same time I was looking at the 63 and there is a noticeable difference between the two. However, in its own right the MCT is not bad at all and you cease to worry about it very quickly.
The engine is epic - always feels incredibly special, angry and powerful. It needs around 4000 revs to really get going (same in any N/A car) but once there the pull is formidable. The Jag will have more low down torque and will be more point and squirt but it won't give you the same feeling of laugh out loud excitement that C63 engine will. They also remap extremely easily to 520bhp if you feel it needs more.
Surprised by your interior comment. Again assuming you're talking about facelift cars my view is that the C class interior is a more modern place to be. Haven't spent enough time in an XKR to know about materials but you need to remember that they were in a different price league when new.
Finally, i've kept an eye on the market since buying mine and prices genuinelly seem to be increasing. Sub-15K mile cars are now well over 35k - they weren't six months ago. Many people who have bought the new version actually prefer their old car better. They have fantastic amounts of charachter for a series production German coupe. They always feel up for attacking a piece of road and always feel on your side. Almost like you're riding a dragon that's only loyal to you!
Finally, fuel consumption is horrendous. I get about 14mpg out of mine when driven spirtitedly or in town. It can go down to 10 if you're somewhere like the triangle. Oh so worth it though.
I'm sure I'll be corrected which will be embarrassing if wrong but I think coupes were all face lift - regarding interior, if they're not, it will be post face lift/later interior I'm referring too, the flip up screen was a terrible idea!
I don't dislike the 63 interior, just the Jag imo is a nicer place to be - good point on price point though, although still plenty of plastic in the Jag. The pan roof is a nice idea but I spent a lot of my time in the past correcting rattles on them which seem to become far more apparent the older the car gets, something of a bug bare, especially on a car I plan to keep.
Fuel consumption is largely irrelevant to some extent, it'll be used on days off which aren't as frequent as I'd like and hopefully for the odd trip across the continent.
Cant give as much as a valuable insight as that as I didnt consider the XKR but I have just bought an XFR over a C63 for a few reasons as you say the Jag is nicer inside and the approved Jaguar scheme adds a bit of piece of mind as its really very good , I have less faith in Mercedes after previous bad ownership experience, dynamically the C63 is the better car and it sounds awesome, as can the XKR with an aftermarket exhaust though, as you say the toys are better in the Merc also, but I'm sure I'm going to get some hate here when I say the C63 is ever so slightly "council".
The economy on the XFR is proving to be a big surprise I'm averaging well into the 20's last tank was almost 25mpg, but I have the 8 speed.
The economy on the XFR is proving to be a big surprise I'm averaging well into the 20's last tank was almost 25mpg, but I have the 8 speed.
I think they occupy different markets, the XKR is a GT, the C63 more of racer/toy like an M4.
What do you want from a car more?
I chose an XFR over a C63, some reasons why are.... the interior is a lot nicer, the gearbox is a lot better/quicker, the image is tons better (in my West Yorkshire opinion) the engine is just as interesting and seemed a bit quicker, comes with a locking diff standard, more rare... Also 600hp is not far away with pulley and remap.
Both great cars though.
What do you want from a car more?
I chose an XFR over a C63, some reasons why are.... the interior is a lot nicer, the gearbox is a lot better/quicker, the image is tons better (in my West Yorkshire opinion) the engine is just as interesting and seemed a bit quicker, comes with a locking diff standard, more rare... Also 600hp is not far away with pulley and remap.
Both great cars though.
liner33 said:
Cant give as much as a valuable insight as that as I didnt consider the XKR but I have just bought an XFR over a C63 for a few reasons as you say the Jag is nicer inside and the approved Jaguar scheme adds a bit of piece of mind as its really very good , I have less faith in Mercedes after previous bad ownership experience, dynamically the C63 is the better car and it sounds awesome, as can the XKR with an aftermarket exhaust though, as you say the toys are better in the Merc also, but I'm sure I'm going to get some hate here when I say the C63 is ever so slightly "council".
The economy on the XFR is proving to be a big surprise I'm averaging well into the 20's last tank was almost 25mpg, but I have the 8 speed.
It is a little bit council. However, the hooligan character is something you come to adore not regret.The economy on the XFR is proving to be a big surprise I'm averaging well into the 20's last tank was almost 25mpg, but I have the 8 speed.
Having driven both and owned neither I would go for the Jag. I am a huge Mercedes fan and I love the C63 but compare the two and the Jag is for me, I much prefer GT cars.
Have you thought about anything else? Maserati Granturismo? Ok not even as remotely as fast but special and has a character of its own. Sticking with Mercedes, there's plenty other AMGs for that price range with the 6.2...CLS, CL, E-Class etc
Have you thought about anything else? Maserati Granturismo? Ok not even as remotely as fast but special and has a character of its own. Sticking with Mercedes, there's plenty other AMGs for that price range with the 6.2...CLS, CL, E-Class etc
Sold my 5.0l XKR a few weeks ago after a year of ownership.
For me I had a love hate relationship with it - but only because I should really have bought a different car (wife fell in love with the looks so I decided to let her choose this time around - mistake as it turned out). I had my eye on a manual e92 M3 which I think would have suited me better.
It is brutally fast when you ask it to be, makes an awesome noise (it is definitely not quiet when you give it the beans), and it looks divine. But...it seemed to be an odd car to me. Stunningly refined GT but the with brutal power of a serious sports car. Problem is that the two didn't really go well together, particularly because the traction was very poor (different tyres would likely have sorted that to a degree I guess). The back end would light up with very little provocation which meant that you really had to be on your toes when driving it with any sort of enthusiasm.
Also I'm not a huge fan of auto boxes and with so much torque the kick down can really catch you out. The paddles were fine but the car would revert to auto unless you had it in sport mode, and then you were effectively driving it like a sports car, which it ain't.
In terms of detail the sat nav is terminally out of date and can't be upgraded beyond 2010 (at least on my 09 model - DVD as opposed to the later HDD I think)
All of that said, turning up in one of these cars always makes you feel very special (as did starting it!) - unless you were turning up to in a multistory car park, in which case it made you feel very nervous as it is huge and the visibility is not great.
As a intercontinental ballistic missile it is supreme. As a fun car for driving fast down twisty roads it is not that good, but I guess that is pretty self evident. I had some epic blasts in the car but for too much of the time I felt that I could not have much fun in it for fear of either losing my license, or the back end, or occasionally a full day's use of my underpants.
I changed it for a new RS Megane 275 Cup-S. I miss a lot about the Jag, but 99% of the time I have much more fun driving the Megan, and for me that is what it is all about. Interestingly the mpg between the two cars is not that different, but then I am spanking the Megane much more of the time.
Would I have one again - maybe, but I'd probably go for a more driver focused option like the C63 or M3.
For me I had a love hate relationship with it - but only because I should really have bought a different car (wife fell in love with the looks so I decided to let her choose this time around - mistake as it turned out). I had my eye on a manual e92 M3 which I think would have suited me better.
It is brutally fast when you ask it to be, makes an awesome noise (it is definitely not quiet when you give it the beans), and it looks divine. But...it seemed to be an odd car to me. Stunningly refined GT but the with brutal power of a serious sports car. Problem is that the two didn't really go well together, particularly because the traction was very poor (different tyres would likely have sorted that to a degree I guess). The back end would light up with very little provocation which meant that you really had to be on your toes when driving it with any sort of enthusiasm.
Also I'm not a huge fan of auto boxes and with so much torque the kick down can really catch you out. The paddles were fine but the car would revert to auto unless you had it in sport mode, and then you were effectively driving it like a sports car, which it ain't.
In terms of detail the sat nav is terminally out of date and can't be upgraded beyond 2010 (at least on my 09 model - DVD as opposed to the later HDD I think)
All of that said, turning up in one of these cars always makes you feel very special (as did starting it!) - unless you were turning up to in a multistory car park, in which case it made you feel very nervous as it is huge and the visibility is not great.
As a intercontinental ballistic missile it is supreme. As a fun car for driving fast down twisty roads it is not that good, but I guess that is pretty self evident. I had some epic blasts in the car but for too much of the time I felt that I could not have much fun in it for fear of either losing my license, or the back end, or occasionally a full day's use of my underpants.
I changed it for a new RS Megane 275 Cup-S. I miss a lot about the Jag, but 99% of the time I have much more fun driving the Megan, and for me that is what it is all about. Interestingly the mpg between the two cars is not that different, but then I am spanking the Megane much more of the time.
Would I have one again - maybe, but I'd probably go for a more driver focused option like the C63 or M3.
mikearwas said:
I have a C63 (and have test driven the Ftype V8 with the same engine as the XKR) and will respond to some of your points. I assume you're referring to the facelift C63 (quite a big difference between this and the pre-facelift):
I bought mine in June this year and absolutely adore it. I took it up to the evo triangle in July where it was an absolute weapon. Cruised up in complete comfort and then dispatched the triangle. Car was far more neutral than i expected - the front really bites and the you can easily feel the rear coming into play and take the appropriate action. Brakes are good but you do feel the weight into higher speed braking zones.
The car has been completely reliable thus far and very easy to live with. The panoramic roof is a must have - really lightens the interior and is fantastic in the summer. It also allows you to hear more of the V8 noise in tunnels etc.
The gearbox isn't slow on the facelift cars, it just isn't as lightning quick as DCT equipped cars. I test drove an M4 at the same time I was looking at the 63 and there is a noticeable difference between the two. However, in its own right the MCT is not bad at all and you cease to worry about it very quickly.
The engine is epic - always feels incredibly special, angry and powerful. It needs around 4000 revs to really get going (same in any N/A car) but once there the pull is formidable. The Jag will have more low down torque and will be more point and squirt but it won't give you the same feeling of laugh out loud excitement that C63 engine will. They also remap extremely easily to 520bhp if you feel it needs more.
Surprised by your interior comment. Again assuming you're talking about facelift cars my view is that the C class interior is a more modern place to be. Haven't spent enough time in an XKR to know about materials but you need to remember that they were in a different price league when new.
Finally, i've kept an eye on the market since buying mine and prices genuinelly seem to be increasing. Sub-15K mile cars are now well over 35k - they weren't six months ago. Many people who have bought the new version actually prefer their old car better. They have fantastic amounts of charachter for a series production German coupe. They always feel up for attacking a piece of road and always feel on your side. Almost like you're riding a dragon that's only loyal to you!
Finally, fuel consumption is horrendous. I get about 14mpg out of mine when driven spirtitedly or in town. It can go down to 10 if you're somewhere like the triangle. Oh so worth it though.
Great review, thanks.I bought mine in June this year and absolutely adore it. I took it up to the evo triangle in July where it was an absolute weapon. Cruised up in complete comfort and then dispatched the triangle. Car was far more neutral than i expected - the front really bites and the you can easily feel the rear coming into play and take the appropriate action. Brakes are good but you do feel the weight into higher speed braking zones.
The car has been completely reliable thus far and very easy to live with. The panoramic roof is a must have - really lightens the interior and is fantastic in the summer. It also allows you to hear more of the V8 noise in tunnels etc.
The gearbox isn't slow on the facelift cars, it just isn't as lightning quick as DCT equipped cars. I test drove an M4 at the same time I was looking at the 63 and there is a noticeable difference between the two. However, in its own right the MCT is not bad at all and you cease to worry about it very quickly.
The engine is epic - always feels incredibly special, angry and powerful. It needs around 4000 revs to really get going (same in any N/A car) but once there the pull is formidable. The Jag will have more low down torque and will be more point and squirt but it won't give you the same feeling of laugh out loud excitement that C63 engine will. They also remap extremely easily to 520bhp if you feel it needs more.
Surprised by your interior comment. Again assuming you're talking about facelift cars my view is that the C class interior is a more modern place to be. Haven't spent enough time in an XKR to know about materials but you need to remember that they were in a different price league when new.
Finally, i've kept an eye on the market since buying mine and prices genuinelly seem to be increasing. Sub-15K mile cars are now well over 35k - they weren't six months ago. Many people who have bought the new version actually prefer their old car better. They have fantastic amounts of charachter for a series production German coupe. They always feel up for attacking a piece of road and always feel on your side. Almost like you're riding a dragon that's only loyal to you!
Finally, fuel consumption is horrendous. I get about 14mpg out of mine when driven spirtitedly or in town. It can go down to 10 if you're somewhere like the triangle. Oh so worth it though.
Does yours have the LSD? Did you try with and without?
I've spent a lot of time in the XKR - I was part of the team developing the infotainment system...
The exhaust sounds better when you're higher up the rev range but sounds more subtle than a C3 at tickover. I can't fault it comfort-wise, having spent a lot of hours either driving them, or sat in development cars.
The exhaust sounds better when you're higher up the rev range but sounds more subtle than a C3 at tickover. I can't fault it comfort-wise, having spent a lot of hours either driving them, or sat in development cars.
A friend had a fairly new XKR under warranty (must have been only a couple of years old) - sat nav/infotainment kept freezing up and throwing £2000 bills. When the warranty expired and the bills became 'real money' he fell out of love with the car.
I went out in it once, the acceleration was brutal and the sound immense.
He said that the garage told him the sat nav was always breaking down as the technology was an unhappy marriage of the previous and current owners of Jaguar
I went out in it once, the acceleration was brutal and the sound immense.
He said that the garage told him the sat nav was always breaking down as the technology was an unhappy marriage of the previous and current owners of Jaguar
I'd take the Jag over the Merc for reliability everytime and as said, the noise is easily sorted. I've not owned either but I did have an earlier XKR. The old JLR infotainment is a bit clunky but it streams bluetooth IIRC so it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me.
In the right colour combo the Jag still looks great IMO whereas the Merc seems to have fallen into the hands of the Barrys. Love the noise of the Merc though but you need to decide on which suits you best as they are quite different in character.
In the right colour combo the Jag still looks great IMO whereas the Merc seems to have fallen into the hands of the Barrys. Love the noise of the Merc though but you need to decide on which suits you best as they are quite different in character.
The only thing I will say is if you're looking at the XKR then I think you're looking at the wrong car in terms of the C63 especially when you're talking about the interior then the CL63 AMG (they also have more BHP to compensate for the extra KG's) is more of a relevant competitor.
CL63 AMG
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Another one to look at in the Mercedes range is the E500 with the 4.7 BiTurbo engine this is a little known model (I have one & it's a wolf in sheeps clothing) 410bhp standard 480-495bhp with a map.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
I had a C63 & although on price point they're similar the XKR is a proper GT car whereas the C63 is a car you can do distance in.
CL63 AMG
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Another one to look at in the Mercedes range is the E500 with the 4.7 BiTurbo engine this is a little known model (I have one & it's a wolf in sheeps clothing) 410bhp standard 480-495bhp with a map.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
I had a C63 & although on price point they're similar the XKR is a proper GT car whereas the C63 is a car you can do distance in.
ZX10R NIN said:
The only thing I will say is if you're looking at the XKR then I think you're looking at the wrong car in terms of the C63 especially when you're talking about the interior then the CL63 AMG (they also have more BHP to compensate for the extra KG's) is more of a relevant competitor.
CL63 AMG
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Another one to look at in the Mercedes range is the E500 with the 4.7 BiTurbo engine this is a little known model (I have one & it's a wolf in sheeps clothing) 410bhp standard 480-495bhp with a map.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
I had a C63 & although on price point they're similar the XKR is a proper GT car whereas the C63 is a car you can do distance in.
Isnt that the definition of a GT ?? CL63 AMG
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Another one to look at in the Mercedes range is the E500 with the 4.7 BiTurbo engine this is a little known model (I have one & it's a wolf in sheeps clothing) 410bhp standard 480-495bhp with a map.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
I had a C63 & although on price point they're similar the XKR is a proper GT car whereas the C63 is a car you can do distance in.
Gallen said:
unpc said:
I'd take the Jag over the Merc for reliability everytime...
erm...The XK / XKR is widely considered the most reliable car in its class (large GT)
Durzel said:
Great review, thanks.
Does yours have the LSD? Did you try with and without?
No problem mate. My car doesn't have one... Yet. The wetter and colder it gets the more and more I want one. In the rain it really does struggle to put the power down - anything above 4K revs in the first three sometimes four gears lights up the rears and that's in a straight line.Does yours have the LSD? Did you try with and without?
The good news is that you can get a better than stock item in the form of a quaife mechanical locking LSD fitted for about 1200 quid.
Also worth mentioning that a non-LSD car will still do any and all the slidey stuff. The benefit comes in the actual ability to use the power out of slow corners. I almost permanently have the tc set to the sport setting because otherwise you can feel too much power sapping electrical intervention going on.
Edited by mikearwas on Tuesday 18th October 22:51
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