Another scrappage scheme. Bah.

Another scrappage scheme. Bah.

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donkmeister

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8,412 posts

102 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Whilst at my folks this Christmas my brother let slip that my parents were considering scrapping my dad's old MG to buy a Renault Zoe. This MG is the TF160 with almost every extra, and was built during the "good times" in 2004 before it all went tits-up again, is fairly low mileage for its age and has the proper Brown & Gammon head-gasket fix with all the associated reinforcements and upgrades.

We've always talked about me buying it off them when I've got a bit more time to look after it, so thinking now is probably the time I asked what the Renault scrappage scheme is offering, thinking I can match or better it... £5k. Bugger. The car is worth about £2.5k. I've offered to haggle on their behalf to see if I can get them a better deal overall without the scrappage, so hopefully we can find a solution where we're all winners.

It saddens me that this is probably happening elsewhere too where people don't have an irritating petrolhead demanding to have some say over what they do with their property (yes, I realise that will be the view of many! biggrin). There is yet another load of decent, interesting sub-£5k cars about to be scrapped so people can drive around in new cars.

bearman68

4,687 posts

134 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Ffft. Get onto Ebay, and find a 500 quid snotter to swap for the MG. Your Dad can have the trade in and you can have the MG. Sorted.

Camelot1971

2,708 posts

168 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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There's no official scheme (as far as I am aware); it's a discount from Renault with a different name on it.

Camelot1971

2,708 posts

168 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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bearman68 said:
Ffft. Get onto Ebay, and find a 500 quid snotter to swap for the MG. Your Dad can have the trade in and you can have the MG. Sorted.
Most manufacturer schemes require you to have owned the car for 6 months to stop people doing exactly that. You could probably haggle with the dealer and get close to the discount without any car being offered.

V8covin

7,447 posts

195 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Are you sure ?
Renault website says upto £3,000

descentia

231 posts

137 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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bearman68 said:
Ffft. Get onto Ebay, and find a 500 quid snotter to swap for the MG. Your Dad can have the trade in and you can have the MG. Sorted.
There's usually a minimum ownership time to stop people doing just that.

syl

693 posts

77 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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How do they know how long the car has been owned? The V5 is not proof of ownership (and says so on the front).

MrGTI6

3,169 posts

132 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Really hope you save it from the scrapyard, sounds far too nice to be scrapped. These schemes are ridiculous if you ask me.

Flumpo

3,883 posts

75 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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syl said:
How do they know how long the car has been owned? The V5 is not proof of ownership (and says so on the front).
Unfortunately, other than bailiffs, everyone takes that as proof of ownership.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

230 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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MrGTI6 said:
Really hope you save it from the scrapyard, sounds far too nice to be scrapped. These schemes are ridiculous if you ask me.
Makes me laugh when you hear the powers that be bleating on about the environment, recycling etc. All goes out the window when a new car is to be sold.

carl_w

9,251 posts

260 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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donkmeister said:
We've always talked about me buying it off them when I've got a bit more time to look after it, so thinking now is probably the time I asked what the Renault scrappage scheme is offering, thinking I can match or better it... £5k. Bugger. The car is worth about £2.5k.
Surely the Renault scrappage scheme is just a trade-in deal? No way they're going to weigh it in if they can get more by sticking it through an auction?

The official scrappage scheme required the dealer to get a certificate of destruction, but there's no such scheme in place now.

donkmeister

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8,412 posts

102 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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V8covin said:
Are you sure ?
Renault website says upto £3,000
It's a bit hidden but: £5k off a Zoe

No T&Cs there, I'm assuming the £500 eBay snotter approach wouldn't work but I've asked them to get a written quote first if they are want to go ahead with it (apparently they have until February, not 7th January) so if that route works I'll be straight on there to buy something horrible (although unfortunately transferring the misery to fans of whatever I buy).

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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descentia said:
bearman68 said:
Ffft. Get onto Ebay, and find a 500 quid snotter to swap for the MG. Your Dad can have the trade in and you can have the MG. Sorted.
There's usually a minimum ownership time to stop people doing just that.
Buy st snotter from a init bruv, give full asking price for piece of st car when filling out v5 accidently backdate, tax straight away...

Brads67

3,199 posts

100 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Save it somehow.
I'm looking at these just now. They will be an appreciating classic given time.

kambites

67,731 posts

223 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Is it s true scrappage scheme or is it simply a guaranteed minimum trade-in? I can't see why they'd scrap a car worth auctioning.

Butter Face

30,620 posts

162 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Op, Scrappage on a ZOE is £3k, cash only deal, don’t get any of the other supported deals I.e low rate finance. So as long as they’re buying it outright it’s a good deal.

But the ‘cash’ deal is £2k, so you only need to find them £1000 and they’re in the same boat.

Or they can take the PCP deal, deposit contribution ranges from £3075- £3970 depending on which model want and then they can just pay it off whenever. Either way it’s all doable. Depends on how much you want the car.

Butter Face

30,620 posts

162 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Just the clarify, it is a scrappage scheme, we have to scrap the cars and get a certificate of destruction in order to get paid the correct amount of money from Renault, if we don’t get don’t get anything. If the car is worth more than £1000 then we would offer the above route anyway, £2k cash discount + normal PX.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

230 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Don't let it get scrapped FFS. Will be a waste.

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

109 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Not a £2500 car - a well looked after 70k miles tf160 in trophy blue just went for £900

donkmeister

Original Poster:

8,412 posts

102 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Pistonheader101 said:
Not a £2500 car - a well looked after 70k miles tf160 in trophy blue just went for £900
bd laugh