Advice: Irregular mot mileage on 19 Panamera

Advice: Irregular mot mileage on 19 Panamera

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mostlymauiwaui

Original Poster:

24 posts

13 months

Thursday 18th May 2023
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Hey all,

First time here posting, but always been an observer of posts.

I'm looking to buy a particular car, but something has come up in the MOT recorded mileage and I am not sure if it should be a serious cause for concern (wrong mileage inputted accidentally?) and would appreciate how I can best put the question to the dealer to get a transparent answer and not get fobbed off. The car is listed over 60k and its my first time buying outside of a main dealer so I want to be sure that I am taking all the additional steps possible to ensure I'm not being done over.

Here are the test results;

2023-Mar-30
PASSED
MILEAGE 38418 mi

2022-Jun-29
PASSED
MILEAGE 14026 mi

2022-Jan-07
PASSED
MILEAGE 28059 mi

Scrump

22,253 posts

160 months

Thursday 18th May 2023
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May have been a mistype with 34k miles going in as 14k miles, the problem is it concerns you and it will concern any potential, user when you come to sell.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,315 posts

213 months

Thursday 18th May 2023
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It's had a 14k trim.

It's your money but when you come to resell they'll be issues.

Whether seller says miskeyed or not.

MDMA .

9,001 posts

103 months

Thursday 18th May 2023
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What is the car/reg? MOT in January and June 2022. Has it been a taxi with a mileage blocker perhaps?
Or it could just be a typo.

elan362

156 posts

39 months

Thursday 18th May 2023
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Unlightly to be a haircut,
Possibly a typo at mot station.
It happens, but can only be corrected if noticed in a very short time frame <7 days iirc. Possibly shorter)
Might be innocent, but it puts a question that will be asked by future buyers and will follow the car around

iphonedyou

9,283 posts

159 months

Thursday 18th May 2023
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It's a mistype and wouldn't bother me a bit.

Macron

9,988 posts

168 months

Thursday 18th May 2023
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
It's had a 14k trim.

It's your money but when you come to resell they'll be issues.

Whether seller says miskeyed or not.
iphonedyou said:
It's a mistype and wouldn't bother me a bit.
And herein lies your problem OP,

Half your prospective future buyers ain't having this shonkiness, the other half apparently embrace it.

Quite why you'd wish to own any vehicle with a reduction in possible buyers when it's already a niche is beyond me (I'm in the former 50%), but you believe whatever jackanory they come up with to try and explain the indefensible this far after the fact.

MitchT

15,964 posts

211 months

Thursday 18th May 2023
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MDMA . said:
Has it been a taxi with a mileage blocker perhaps?
I'd like to know who's running a Panamera as a taxi?

elan362

156 posts

39 months

Thursday 18th May 2023
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A MOT mileage can be corrected, but >28 days and it gets difficult
https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/correcting-mot-c...

iphonedyou

9,283 posts

159 months

Thursday 18th May 2023
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Macron said:
And herein lies your problem OP,

Half your prospective future buyers ain't having this shonkiness, the other half apparently embrace it.

Quite why you'd wish to own any vehicle with a reduction in possible buyers when it's already a niche is beyond me (I'm in the former 50%), but you believe whatever jackanory they come up with to try and explain the indefensible this far after the fact.
Genocide is indefensible. A mileage typo isn't.

Like anything, it needs looked at in the round. My 2017 S3 had a mileage typo on its second MOT at six years old. On about 27k and the cert read about 14k. The car was perfect, interior clean, paint good, the receipts showed it was pre emptively maintained with DSG, Haldex done at 20k miles(!) etc., receipts for PS4S / CS throughout its time. Obviously well loved and the MOT mileage record an error.

Edited by iphonedyou on Thursday 18th May 23:36

barryrs

4,413 posts

225 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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I wouldn’t even bother going to look at it. Not only is there a mileage discrepancy but the mot dates make no sense for a privately owned car.

Jamescrs

4,546 posts

67 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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I qouldnt touch it personally. As a high value car I'd expect at the least the owner to take more note of the certificate details although I accept some owners won't care less and will just throw the paperwork straight into the glove box.

I'd be pretty confident there's another similar car out there without this issue

Pablo16v

2,112 posts

199 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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I don't know what the service intervals are on a Panamera but if there has been at least two since it was registered then perhaps they will have a note of the mileage which you can compare against the MOT history?

SWoll

18,671 posts

260 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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barryrs said:
I wouldn’t even bother going to look at it. Not only is there a mileage discrepancy but the mot dates make no sense for a privately owned car.
This. The combination of 3 MOT's in < 15 months and no-one spotting the mileage discrepancy at the time is enough of a red flag to immediately walk away for me.

GT03ROB

13,386 posts

223 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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Pablo16v said:
I don't know what the service intervals are on a Panamera but if there has been at least two since it was registered then perhaps they will have a note of the mileage which you can compare against the MOT history?
I think this is your first point of reference, What does the service history show. Maybe nothing or may explain.

Collectingbrass

2,239 posts

197 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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It would probably put me off as there's nothing to say it hasn't been seriously clocked and abused. But, if it absolutely had to be that one (and assuming it's cheaper than the rest, how mush is the peace of mind that one with out question worth?)

- I'd give the service history a thorough check over, that might make the MOT mileage stack up
- I'd get a Porsche indie to give it a thorough presale inspection with a specific instruction to use a code reader to look for the mileage recorded & engine run hours in the other ECUs in the car, the dash display is usually only one of 3 or more

Though if there is anything truly iffy about it and the dealer they are likely to refuse the inspection and that's the time to make like Usain Bolt

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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Scrump said:
May have been a mistype with 34k miles going in as 14k miles, the problem is it concerns you and it will concern any potential, user when you come to sell.
This. No idea why everyone is treating this like some kind of 'whodunnit'.

1/3 is one of the most common substitution typos, along with 7/9 due to the way human brains interact with numerical keypads (ATMs and computers have these digits in different places), and this matches fairly well with the usage.

If you really want the car, buy it and get the DVLA to correct the mileage.

It's no hassle really.

SWoll

18,671 posts

260 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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C70R said:
This. No idea why everyone is treating this like some kind of 'whodunnit'.

1/3 is one of the most common substitution typos, along with 7/9 due to the way human brains interact with numerical keypads (ATMs and computers have these digits in different places), and this matches fairly well with the usage.

If you really want the car, buy it and get the DVLA to correct the mileage.

It's no hassle really.
As above it's not that easy when so much time has passed, and in addition why has the car also been MOT tested 3 times in 15 months?

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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SWoll said:
C70R said:
This. No idea why everyone is treating this like some kind of 'whodunnit'.

1/3 is one of the most common substitution typos, along with 7/9 due to the way human brains interact with numerical keypads (ATMs and computers have these digits in different places), and this matches fairly well with the usage.

If you really want the car, buy it and get the DVLA to correct the mileage.

It's no hassle really.
As above it's not that easy when so much time has passed, and in addition why has the car also been MOT tested 3 times in 15 months?
I have no idea why the car has been tested 3 times in 15 months, but it could be something as simple as a dealer putting a fresh ticket on it to sell. I feel like jumping to controversial conclusions is probably not helpful to the OP.

biggbn

23,773 posts

222 months

Friday 19th May 2023
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Plenty of used cars. Walk away and don't give it a second thought.