Hot hatches as an investment? Give me your opinions!

[fridaypassion]

Well I've had the original 225/F1 and a few R26 and probably 4 or 5 250s that was my takeaway. That actually ride nicer on the road but need coilovers for really leaning on them. They are certainly more civilized if you want to put it that way.

[plenty]

Kerniki said:

I get why people like the buzz of the city (any) and the amount of stimulus you get, hell, our place is sooo quiet we seek stimulus but i can imagine living amongst it, we would drown / suffocate amongst the crime, pollution and zero feeling of freedom, i know we are all different and thats needed but ‘that’ different? surely what you gain by being there is not worth your freedom? Or do you not see it that way?

It's a long story, but the TL:DR version goes something like this: I do miss (hugely) the type of freedom that comes with having space to house cars and easy access to driving roads. But only in the city can we find other types of freedom that are important to us, which I might describe as social and cultural freedom. If like us you are 'international' in your background and outlook, life outside the city can be very isolating socially as it's almost impossible to meet people living locally of a similar mind, or find decent international food of the standard we seek. (We know, because we've tried it.) Oh, and the Mrs hates driving.

Kerniki said:

I’m guessing you’re there in that scenario due to work commitments?

I work for myself and work 100% remotely and am lucky enough to have total freedom to choose where we live. Mrs and I have lived all over the world and have a track record of moving a lot (we're moving again next month which will be our 7th place in 16 years in the UK). A rented flat is the ultimate in flexibility and low maintenance (which is important as we spend 4-5 months each year overseas). Next place is a house with garage and lots of driveway space, but still within the M25 and walking distance to a tube, so hopefully best of both worlds.

[CABC]

Kerniki said:

we would drown / suffocate amongst the crime, pollution and zero feeling of freedom, i know we are all different and thats needed but ‘that’ different? surely what you gain by being there is not worth your freedom? Or do you not see it that way?

Kaleb, get back on the farm.

[oceanview]

I have recently had a Suzuki Swift Sport (2014). Its been a "stop gap" car before i look to get into an M140I or similar. I have been very impressed with it and it very much reminds me of the Renault Clio Williams i drove in the late 90's.

Its a hoot to rev out and punches way above its weight across the nearby Exmoor roads.

I know an M140I wont be as much "fun" but i love the B58 engine and want the power.

But, i love the Swift Sport and with its original hot hatch credentials and toughness, i really think it deserves a place in hot hatch heaven!!

[Kerniki]

plenty said:

Kerniki said:

I get why people like the buzz of the city (any) and the amount of stimulus you get, hell, our place is sooo quiet we seek stimulus but i can imagine living amongst it, we would drown / suffocate amongst the crime, pollution and zero feeling of freedom, i know we are all different and thats needed but ‘that’ different? surely what you gain by being there is not worth your freedom? Or do you not see it that way?

It's a long story, but the TL:DR version goes something like this: I do miss (hugely) the type of freedom that comes with having space to house cars and easy access to driving roads. But only in the city can we find other types of freedom that are important to us, which I might describe as social and cultural freedom. If like us you are 'international' in your background and outlook, life outside the city can be very isolating socially as it's almost impossible to meet people living locally of a similar mind, or find decent international food of the standard we seek. (We know, because we've tried it.) Oh, and the Mrs hates driving.

Kerniki said:

I’m guessing you’re there in that scenario due to work commitments?

I work for myself and work 100% remotely and am lucky enough to have total freedom to choose where we live. Mrs and I have lived all over the world and have a track record of moving a lot (we're moving again next month which will be our 7th place in 16 years in the UK). A rented flat is the ultimate in flexibility and low maintenance (which is important as we spend 4-5 months each year overseas). Next place is a house with garage and lots of driveway space, but still within the M25 and walking distance to a tube, so hopefully best of both worlds.

That explains it, we’re almost the complete opposite in that we crave social isolation 90% of the time and have a social tap we turn on occasionally in the form of venturing off exploring with likeminded individuals or just visit crowded places with tons to do, not having to work means it can be anywhere in the world as long as kennels have space.

Freedom is as you say, the choice to do what ever the heart desires without restriction and your renting rings a bell, our current thinking is that we have created & own too many permanent dwellings, and now feel they’re more of a burden that we have to look after rather than them looking after us, so thanks for your insight on the renting side.

we used to develop properties in the uk but always juggled two at a time in prime locations, moving from one to the other as they were finished so they looked lived in to sell, looking back i think the moving regularly stimulated us quite a lot, always thought it was a pain as we were doing it for the wonga but on reflection i think it suited us.

But yes, i’m quite Kalibish, probably more Clarkson as i love adventure and different countries and cultures but not a huge people fan.