EVs... no one wants them!
Discussion
DonkeyApple said:
Saweep said:
Anyone know how the sales of the RR Spectre have gone?
A year or so ago, I'm sure they were apparently all sold out for years, but brand new ones keep appearing on AT and dealer websites.
This indicates to me that the completed purchases haven't materialised by some way...Ferrari would rather burn any new unsold cars than advertise their availability to the proles.
Bentley delaying their EV coupe, again, makes me think that the RR hasn't been the success initially hoped for.
I'd imagine that a chunk of sales were supposed to come from China but they're having a bit of a consumer crunch at the moment which probably doesn't help. With petrol still being cheap in the US and ME then it might be a slow sell at the very top end? A year or so ago, I'm sure they were apparently all sold out for years, but brand new ones keep appearing on AT and dealer websites.
This indicates to me that the completed purchases haven't materialised by some way...Ferrari would rather burn any new unsold cars than advertise their availability to the proles.
Bentley delaying their EV coupe, again, makes me think that the RR hasn't been the success initially hoped for.
They're a very striking looking car that although not my cup of tea, I can see why plenty of folks would want one.
NDA said:
An article in the Telegraph this morning suggesting that EV tyres only last 7,500 miles and they're significantly more expensive to replace. The comments full of "EV fanatics ignore science" etc.
It's like running in treacle sometimes, so much misinformation being peddled by supposedly serious news outlets.
Eek, I’d better throw mine away sharpish as I should be half way through the third set by now. It's like running in treacle sometimes, so much misinformation being peddled by supposedly serious news outlets.
19,000 miles on the first set so far and still 6mm on the front and just over 4mm on the rears.
Saweep said:
DonkeyApple said:
Saweep said:
Anyone know how the sales of the RR Spectre have gone?
A year or so ago, I'm sure they were apparently all sold out for years, but brand new ones keep appearing on AT and dealer websites.
This indicates to me that the completed purchases haven't materialised by some way...Ferrari would rather burn any new unsold cars than advertise their availability to the proles.
Bentley delaying their EV coupe, again, makes me think that the RR hasn't been the success initially hoped for.
I'd imagine that a chunk of sales were supposed to come from China but they're having a bit of a consumer crunch at the moment which probably doesn't help. With petrol still being cheap in the US and ME then it might be a slow sell at the very top end? A year or so ago, I'm sure they were apparently all sold out for years, but brand new ones keep appearing on AT and dealer websites.
This indicates to me that the completed purchases haven't materialised by some way...Ferrari would rather burn any new unsold cars than advertise their availability to the proles.
Bentley delaying their EV coupe, again, makes me think that the RR hasn't been the success initially hoped for.
They're a very striking looking car that although not my cup of tea, I can see why plenty of folks would want one.
Why they would they bother with an engine option with so few years left to go is beyond me.
D4rez said:
It’s the perfect powertrain for a Rolls Royce customer. Low mileage users, quiet and powerful, sustainable…. I’m sure there are flippers and demo spec cars for sale by now.
Why they would they bother with an engine option with so few years left to go is beyond me.
Yeah, only 11 years 😂Why they would they bother with an engine option with so few years left to go is beyond me.
EVLATECOMER said:
D4rez said:
It’s the perfect powertrain for a Rolls Royce customer. Low mileage users, quiet and powerful, sustainable…. I’m sure there are flippers and demo spec cars for sale by now.
Why they would they bother with an engine option with so few years left to go is beyond me.
Yeah, only 11 years ??Why they would they bother with an engine option with so few years left to go is beyond me.
Europe works out about the same, US a tiny bit further behind but not much
plfrench said:
NDA said:
An article in the Telegraph this morning suggesting that EV tyres only last 7,500 miles and they're significantly more expensive to replace. The comments full of "EV fanatics ignore science" etc.
It's like running in treacle sometimes, so much misinformation being peddled by supposedly serious news outlets.
Eek, I’d better throw mine away sharpish as I should be half way through the third set by now. It's like running in treacle sometimes, so much misinformation being peddled by supposedly serious news outlets.
19,000 miles on the first set so far and still 6mm on the front and just over 4mm on the rears.
My average economy is 2.8 m/ kWh because I use GT mode frequently
It can’t be true ‘cos the Telegraph says it ain’t so!
Dave200 said:
Some insecure people wear their choice of car like a badge of pride.
Dave200 said:
That won't stop insecure people from inventing reasons why they don't want one.
I find it’s normally the insecure people who accuse others of being insecure. 
Anyway, it comes down to personal choice and some of us just don’t want an EV yet. This thread is dominated by people wanting to save money, the main reason for driving one, and for many of us, it’s not a priority.I probably will get one one day, but only when the technology is a bit better.
Turtle Shed said:
NDA said:
An article in the Telegraph this morning suggesting that EV tyres only last 7,500 miles and they're significantly more expensive to replace. The comments full of "EV fanatics ignore science" etc.
It's like running in treacle sometimes, so much misinformation being peddled by supposedly serious news outlets.
Had my Leaf for just under a decade. It's on 76k miles. £70 per corner for Michelin tyres last time. Fronts last around 22k, rears about 30k.It's like running in treacle sometimes, so much misinformation being peddled by supposedly serious news outlets.
Saweep said:
It's a shame they didn't engineer it for both powertrains; I'm sure that must have been possible.
They're a very striking looking car that although not my cup of tea, I can see why plenty of folks would want one.
I've not followed the product at all bar seeing the ThrottleHouse video. They're a very striking looking car that although not my cup of tea, I can see why plenty of folks would want one.
My wild guess is that as it's a BMW product and their mainstream stuff currently shares powertrains for sensible cost sharing that they saw with RR there was the margin to do a pure EV model which could then filter into the 7 series and SUVs later? Just guessing.
DonkeyApple said:
If only Sunak would announce some form of conscription to the military for the over 65s. They just lack backbone, initiative and something to do. A couple of years of National Service would start setting that generation straight. 
Although they don't seem to live on here like yourself spouting endless crap.I’ve been on a few long trips on dual carriageway/motorways this past week (300 in total) and thought I’d ‘test’ a couple of EV myths going round on here!
I stuck to the speed limit and overtook just 2 EVs, many more ICE cars. Many EVs that overtook me were doing about 80mph!
On the way back from Keswick we stopped at Scotch Corner for the loos, the car park was rammed. When we were done, I drove past the EV chargers. To my surprise, about 50% of the chargers free, and that included the two ICE cars parked in the EV bays!
Spotted one car fire, an old Corsa!
I stuck to the speed limit and overtook just 2 EVs, many more ICE cars. Many EVs that overtook me were doing about 80mph!
On the way back from Keswick we stopped at Scotch Corner for the loos, the car park was rammed. When we were done, I drove past the EV chargers. To my surprise, about 50% of the chargers free, and that included the two ICE cars parked in the EV bays!
Spotted one car fire, an old Corsa!
it's full of angry gammon this place. QED?DonkeyApple said:
Saweep said:
It's a shame they didn't engineer it for both powertrains; I'm sure that must have been possible.
They're a very striking looking car that although not my cup of tea, I can see why plenty of folks would want one.
I've not followed the product at all bar seeing the ThrottleHouse video. They're a very striking looking car that although not my cup of tea, I can see why plenty of folks would want one.
My wild guess is that as it's a BMW product and their mainstream stuff currently shares powertrains for sensible cost sharing that they saw with RR there was the margin to do a pure EV model which could then filter into the 7 series and SUVs later? Just guessing.
KingGary said:
I find it’s normally the insecure people who accuse others of being insecure. Anyway, it comes down to personal choice and some of us just don’t want an EV yet. This thread is dominated by people wanting to save money, the main reason for driving one, and for many of us, it’s not a priority.
I probably will get one one day, but only when the technology is a bit better.
I'd pay extra to avoid petrol for a day to day wagon. I'd pay double never to have to drive a skanky diesel. The cheapness is a bonus not the main motivation. Anyway, it comes down to personal choice and some of us just don’t want an EV yet. This thread is dominated by people wanting to save money, the main reason for driving one, and for many of us, it’s not a priority.I probably will get one one day, but only when the technology is a bit better.
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