Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 21]

[bolidemichael]

Swervin_Mervin said:

W00DY said:

A nice 605 however would be worth the headache.

Sadly, I believe there are almost none left. Well, with a worthwhile engine. We bought a 605 V6 SVE in '07 to do the Scumball Rally and it's the only car I regret selling. If I'd had a barn somewhere it would have been stored. It was an utterly magnificent thing.

Isn’t this the model so highly praised by the erstwhile PHer, Loin King, Bishop?

[rider73]

BenS94 said:

rider73 said:

are these 330d considered bargey yet? lorra lorra miles on those turbos but looks pretty tidy

That looks like local trader, with LT in the name... expect many undisclosed issues, he buys them off the Suzuki Garage he works at, puts an MOT on and sells them.

Edit: it's not, just seems to have been photographed in the same place! Seems a little expensive, but looks alright.

Edited by BenS94 on Wednesday 22 November 09:27

thanks for the headsup - i've just been in touch - singing the 330d praises, can do 300,000 you know.... - however sketchy on the servicing done - he's had it less than a year, and done his own oil and filter. i suspect its the "buy a 330d for a hoot and when the big service comes around, flick it on..."

[GeniusOfLove]

rider73 said:

thanks for the headsup - i've just been in touch - singing the 330d praises, can do 300,000 you know.... - however sketchy on the servicing done - he's had it less than a year, and done his own oil and filter. i suspect its the "buy a 330d for a hoot and when the big service comes around, flick it on..."

To be fair the big service is only big if you go to the BMW dealer. What can possibly need doing beyond fluids and filters?

I spent a quite happy day changing ATF and diff oil on one of my cars, changing brake fluid, changing coolant, along with all the usual filters and fluids. By most buyers dumbass metric that makes my car less appealing and more poorly maintained than one with a stamp and £600 dealer invoice for an oil, filter, cabin filter, and air filter "service". One car will crap out it's gearbox early because it's never had fluid changed, one won't. I suppose you can dry your eyes with the stacks of rip off dealer invoices when you're waiting for the scrap man.

I'd have no issue with a home serviced car if it presents well and drives fine, neglected dogs are very easy to spot.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Wednesday 22 November 10:55

[trevalvole]

A 150k CLS500 with a clean MOT on nicely manicured gravel: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/296063005928

[deadtom]

Jader1973 said:

Having remembered where this thread was hidden, I have a barge related question.

2009 Audi C6 4F All Road V6 turbo diesel.

Massive bork factor or a relatively safe purchase? Is the air suspension problematic? Anything else?

Ad is here - yes it is more expensive than a UK car but cheapish for down here (only 7 for sale in the whole of Oz).

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2009-audi...

Edited by Jader1973 on Tuesday 21st November 07:29

I had a pre facelift (2006) one of these up until recently which I believe is mechanically identical

It regularly broke in a cheap to medium expense sort of way, but never left me stranded.

Oddly, the air suspension is one thing that I didn't have trouble with, but it is definitely a known thing to look out for, though I think the previous C5 generation are worse for this. When I bought it it would list to starboard a bit if left for a few days which had me looking up prices of rear air bags and sweating a little, however changing the battery (died of old age) sorted this out and it never fell over again.

The timing chain on these is on the back of the engine and therefore is an engine out job to do. I ran mine up to 195000 miles and it was just starting to display symptoms of chain wear (slight rattle when starting from warm). I think conscientious owners tend to get the chain done around 150k miles, but I like to live dangerously.

a nice car when it was working though, and I would (and probably will) have another one at some point. I bought mine cheap and it was a little ropey so on the plus side it allowed me to forgive it for a lot of the smaller things that broke, however it was frustrating that in my car I only really got to experience 80% of what it should be. If/when I have another one it'll be newer and better condition; a well sorted one would be a brilliant car.

[RUI488]

Not going to apologise for ‘Friday pricing’ as there is absolutely nothing i don’t love about this -

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/219639/1983-p...

My favourite sports car i’ve owned was a 996 911.
It was just so great to drive.

[BenS94]

RUI488 said:

Not going to apologise for ‘Friday pricing’ as there is absolutely nothing i don’t love about this -

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/219639/1983-p...

My favourite sports car i’ve owned was a 996 911.
It was just so great to drive.

Oh my. Those wheels, that interior...

[bolidemichael]

BenS94 said:

RUI488 said:

Not going to apologise for ‘Friday pricing’ as there is absolutely nothing i don’t love about this -

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/219639/1983-p...

My favourite sports car i’ve owned was a 996 911.
It was just so great to drive.

Oh my. Those wheels, that interior...

Agree about the interior, bodywork and engine, but were those hideous chrome finish wheels really offered as standard?

Besides, this is a 2021 advertised car…

[tr7v8]

bolidemichael said:

BenS94 said:

RUI488 said:

Not going to apologise for ‘Friday pricing’ as there is absolutely nothing i don’t love about this -

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/219639/1983-p...

My favourite sports car i’ve owned was a 996 911.
It was just so great to drive.

Oh my. Those wheels, that interior...

Agree about the interior, bodywork and engine, but were those hideous chrome finish wheels really offered as standard?

Besides, this is a 2021 advertised car…

THey aren't chromed, just polished. Originals are anodised which is difficult & expensive to replicate.

[bolidemichael]

tr7v8 said:

bolidemichael said:

BenS94 said:

RUI488 said:

Not going to apologise for ‘Friday pricing’ as there is absolutely nothing i don’t love about this -

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/219639/1983-p...

My favourite sports car i’ve owned was a 996 911.
It was just so great to drive.

Oh my. Those wheels, that interior...

Agree about the interior, bodywork and engine, but were those hideous chrome finish wheels really offered as standard?

Besides, this is a 2021 advertised car…

THey aren't chromed, just polished. Originals are anodised which is difficult & expensive to replicate.

Fair doooos, but it doesn’t resemble an in period look to me. Bootiful plumage, though.

[carinaman]

bolidemichael said:

tr7v8 said:

bolidemichael said:

BenS94 said:

RUI488 said:

Not going to apologise for ‘Friday pricing’ as there is absolutely nothing i don’t love about this -

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/219639/1983-p...

My favourite sports car i’ve owned was a 996 911.
It was just so great to drive.

Oh my. Those wheels, that interior...

Agree about the interior, bodywork and engine, but were those hideous chrome finish wheels really offered as standard?

Besides, this is a 2021 advertised car…

THey aren't chromed, just polished. Originals are anodised which is difficult & expensive to replicate.

Fair doooos, but it doesn’t resemble an in period look to me. Bootiful plumage, though.

The vendor states sold in a 13 Sept. post.

I thought the choice pick was the S2.5 the 85/86 cars with the chassis improvements of the S4 but without the S4 32 valve motor.

[RUI488]

carinaman said:

The vendor states sold in a 13 Sept. post.

I thought the choice pick was the S2.5 the 85/86 cars with the chassis improvements of the S4 but without the S4 32 valve motor.

I’m no Porsche beard.

[nobrakes]

trevalvole said:

A 150k CLS500 with a clean MOT on nicely manicured gravel: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/296063005928

Beautiful lines on these.

[W00DY]

I was watching this with the hope that by some outside chance it would go cheap given the market and the fact it's been written off, but looks like someone made a decent offer on it.




https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155902806988

[Jader1973]

deadtom said:

Useful stuff

Thanks. Doesn’t sound any worse than any other big older estate from the likes of Merc or BMW.

Although an engine out job sounds like it would be horrifically expensive down here.

I will continue to think about it. I suspect it will sit unsold for a while as older European stuff tends to do that here.

[GeniusOfLove]

Jader1973 said:

Thanks. Doesn’t sound any worse than any other big older estate from the likes of Merc or BMW.

Although an engine out job sounds like it would be horrifically expensive down here.

I will continue to think about it. I suspect it will sit unsold for a while as older European stuff tends to do that here.

My experience of all VAG cars from this century, and it's mirrored by quite a few sheddists I know, is that you see very leggy ones but you almost never see old ones.

Let me explain: You can buy a new Audi or VW and if you want to you can put 300,000 miles on it and with proper maintenance it'll take it and often take it quite well. Once it turns 12/13 years old though it will start to fall to st and you will be faced with one thing after another after another breaking and all of them will be a swine to find the right part for (17 part variations in a 7 year run territory) and it will be an even bigger swine to access and fit. Things that you weren't even aware COULD break will break, like the evaporative emissions system on the fuel tank, or the second thermostat you never a car could have.

It doesn't matter if the car has done 60k miles or 300k miles, age seems to do something to them that doesn't seem to happen with other cars. They're the absolute opposite of cockroach cars like the Astra H that just seem to go forever until someone can't be bothered to spend £200 on new discs and pads for it.

On that basis they're the one brand I would recommend any sheddist/smoker to avoid like the plague, and from what I've seen of their output over the last 5 years they're starting to cut costs that are highly visible so I imagine they're even worse now.

[Jader1973]

GeniusOfLove said:

Other stuff

Interesting. I also just had a chat with a mate who had an older Q7 as a dog / tip / tow car. Seems it died in some horrifically expensive way. His advice was avoid any older Audi as things get expensive quickly due to the “European premium brand” tax.

I think I’ve decided

[tr7v8]

Jader1973 said:

GeniusOfLove said:

Other stuff

Interesting. I also just had a chat with a mate who had an older Q7 as a dog / tip / tow car. Seems it died in some horrifically expensive way. His advice was avoid any older Audi as things get expensive quickly due to the “European premium brand” tax.

I think I’ve decided

Same issue with my Cayenne, (a Q7/Toureg in a different frock) was fine until it got a fuelling problem which turned into a very expensive saga and got chopped for a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

[BenS94]

Leggy LS400, anyone?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023111940...

[Mark-C]

BenS94 said:

Leggy LS400, anyone?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2023111940...

One for the brave - failed MOT with corrosion November 2022 then passed and seemingly no more miles since then.

Could be a bargain of course ...