Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 21]
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Mark-C said:
BenS94 said:
One for the brave - failed MOT with corrosion November 2022 then passed and seemingly no more miles since then.
Could be a bargain of course ...
W00DY said:
I mean, look at that interior…
JUST LOOK AT THAT INTERIOR!!!
bolidemichael said:
W00DY said:
I mean, look at that interior…JUST LOOK AT THAT INTERIOR!!!
LayZ said:
Regarding the Renault 25, that one looks just like the one I have in France. In the UK that is a seriously rare car. Autoboxes are hopeless and very unusual to see one still going.
Mine is a 2.1 Turbo DX with > 300k kilometres. Sadly my <<ordinateur de bord vocale>> does not work.
I had a V6 25 Electronic Auto when I lived in Norfolk. B42EEV, bought in around 1990, it was an unreliable disaster. The local Renaul Main dealer had no clue (mine was the only V6 they serviced). Loads of cooling problems, then an electrical fault on the fuel pump circuit. The main dealer had me shouting at their incompetence multiple times. But a funny sequence when I phoned up to see if it was ready after a service. The service manager said in hushed tones "One of our delivery lorries hit it. Its in the paint shop now" Itt turned out that a delivery driver dropped his tail hoist & then managed to reverse the tail hoisy up the bonnet & into the windscreen! New bonnet & windscreen. I joked with the service manager that it was the most expensive car in the car park to hit. He agreed. Mine is a 2.1 Turbo DX with > 300k kilometres. Sadly my <<ordinateur de bord vocale>> does not work.
When it was running it was lovely, bit like mobile armchairs. Pretty economical for a 2.7L V6 even when we towed the caravan with it. The stereo was fantastic, a Phillips special build for the car.
LayZ said:
Regarding the Renault 25, that one looks just like the one I have in France. In the UK that is a seriously rare car. Autoboxes are hopeless and very unusual to see one still going.
Mine is a 2.1 Turbo DX with > 300k kilometres. Sadly my <<ordinateur de bord vocale>> does not work.
Another 25 fan here. Old man had a 25 (2.2 GTX) and the seats were incredible, like armchairs. When it was time to change, we were in France (i was obsessed with french car magazines) and spotted this below. As a young person, i begged him to get it, but sadly they didn't (i don't think) do a right hand drive model.Mine is a 2.1 Turbo DX with > 300k kilometres. Sadly my <<ordinateur de bord vocale>> does not work.
Look at that interior..
p.s. may i ask what that sign means?
LayZ said:
Regarding the Renault 25, that one looks just like the one I have in France. In the UK that is a seriously rare car. Autoboxes are hopeless and very unusual to see one still going.
Mine is a 2.1 Turbo DX with > 300k kilometres. Sadly my <<ordinateur de bord vocale>> does not work.
Mine is a 2.1 Turbo DX with > 300k kilometres. Sadly my <<ordinateur de bord vocale>> does not work.
carinaman said:
The vendor states sold in a 13 Sept. post.
I thought the choice pick was the S2.5 the 85/86 cars with the chassis improvements of the S4 but without the S4 32 valve motor.
Was there a 2.5 in the 928? Or was that the 944?I thought the choice pick was the S2.5 the 85/86 cars with the chassis improvements of the S4 but without the S4 32 valve motor.
Or am I due a Norwegian Blue?
Either way, not a barge. Mighty motors, but not barge (although I haven’t driven any Porsche, ever).
GeniusOfLove said:
My experience of all VAG cars from this century, and it's mirrored by quite a few sheddists I know, is that you see very leggy ones but you almost never see old ones.
Let me explain: You can buy a new Audi or VW and if you want to you can put 300,000 miles on it and with proper maintenance it'll take it and often take it quite well. Once it turns 12/13 years old though it will start to fall to s
t and you will be faced with one thing after another after another breaking and all of them will be a swine to find the right part for (17 part variations in a 7 year run territory) and it will be an even bigger swine to access and fit. Things that you weren't even aware COULD break will break, like the evaporative emissions system on the fuel tank, or the second thermostat you never a car could have.
It doesn't matter if the car has done 60k miles or 300k miles, age seems to do something to them that doesn't seem to happen with other cars. They're the absolute opposite of cockroach cars like the Astra H that just seem to go forever until someone can't be bothered to spend £200 on new discs and pads for it.
On that basis they're the one brand I would recommend any sheddist/smoker to avoid like the plague, and from what I've seen of their output over the last 5 years they're starting to cut costs that are highly visible so I imagine they're even worse now.
This is all gold plated advice. Let me explain: You can buy a new Audi or VW and if you want to you can put 300,000 miles on it and with proper maintenance it'll take it and often take it quite well. Once it turns 12/13 years old though it will start to fall to s
t and you will be faced with one thing after another after another breaking and all of them will be a swine to find the right part for (17 part variations in a 7 year run territory) and it will be an even bigger swine to access and fit. Things that you weren't even aware COULD break will break, like the evaporative emissions system on the fuel tank, or the second thermostat you never a car could have.It doesn't matter if the car has done 60k miles or 300k miles, age seems to do something to them that doesn't seem to happen with other cars. They're the absolute opposite of cockroach cars like the Astra H that just seem to go forever until someone can't be bothered to spend £200 on new discs and pads for it.
On that basis they're the one brand I would recommend any sheddist/smoker to avoid like the plague, and from what I've seen of their output over the last 5 years they're starting to cut costs that are highly visible so I imagine they're even worse now.
Not many people know about the evaporative emissions set up - someone who mentions this, and is right about everything else, knows what they’re talking about!
I work in a garage that does Toyota, VAG and Hyundai.
If i had to buy one- first choice would be Toyota, second choice would be Hyundai. Third would be walking.
The Count said:
Another 25 fan here. Old man had a 25 (2.2 GTX) and the seats were incredible, like armchairs. When it was time to change, we were in France (i was obsessed with french car magazines) and spotted this below. As a young person, i begged him to get it, but sadly they didn't (i don't think) do a right hand drive model.
Look at that interior..
p.s. may i ask what that sign means?
Au contraire, mon ami.Look at that interior..
p.s. may i ask what that sign means?
After 3 Renault 25s, I drove the last one through a flood at 180k miles and broke the engine. I didn't know that the elephant trunk air intake hose went right down to 3 inches above the road before going up again to the engine, and 180k miles of Britain's finest country roads had pebble dashed the hose to oblivion. Car sucked in water and bang.
I bought my local dealer's demonstrator Safrane K801SRT (which is what your pictures are) in right hand drive. Nice car, I could see it was a move on 10 years from the 25, but I didn't actually like it as much. Only thing I remember about it in 72,000 miles of ownership was a manufacturing fault which caused the trip computer and much of the dash to completely clear when the temperature dropped below freezing.
This was useful two years later when my next car (Lexus LS 400) developed a winter gearbox fault (fortunately under warranty). It turned out to be a £1280 ECU that was temperature sensitive. The garage had had the car five months by then trying to find the fault and had had the engine and gearbox out and all sorts of other bits. It was chance conversation with the workshop manager, trying to think through the problem together, when I recalled the Safrane event and the lightbulb in his eyes went on - he dashed into the workshop, grabbed the ECU from their loan car and bingo - problem solved. Looking back in the service records, they had replaced my ECU previously.....and this found the bad batch. Report back to Lexus uncovered about 10 other similar mysterious problems recorded for head scratching.
The Count said:
Another 25 fan here. Old man had a 25 (2.2 GTX) and the seats were incredible, like armchairs. When it was time to change, we were in France (i was obsessed with french car magazines) and spotted this below. As a young person, i begged him to get it, but sadly they didn't (i don't think) do a right hand drive model.
Look at that interior..
p.s. may i ask what that sign means?
That looks absolutely fabulous. Look at that interior..
p.s. may i ask what that sign means?
QBee said:
The Count said:
Another 25 fan here. Old man had a 25 (2.2 GTX) and the seats were incredible, like armchairs. When it was time to change, we were in France (i was obsessed with french car magazines) and spotted this below. As a young person, i begged him to get it, but sadly they didn't (i don't think) do a right hand drive model.
Look at that interior..
p.s. may i ask what that sign means?
Au contraire, mon ami.Look at that interior..
p.s. may i ask what that sign means?
After 3 Renault 25s, I drove the last one through a flood at 180k miles and broke the engine. I didn't know that the elephant trunk air intake hose went right down to 3 inches above the road before going up again to the engine, and 180k miles of Britain's finest country roads had pebble dashed the hose to oblivion. Car sucked in water and bang.
I bought my local dealer's demonstrator Safrane K801SRT (which is what your pictures are) in right hand drive. Nice car, I could see it was a move on 10 years from the 25, but I didn't actually like it as much. Only thing I remember about it in 72,000 miles of ownership was a manufacturing fault which caused the trip computer and much of the dash to completely clear when the temperature dropped below freezing.
This was useful two years later when my next car (Lexus LS 400) developed a winter gearbox fault (fortunately under warranty). It turned out to be a £1280 ECU that was temperature sensitive. The garage had had the car five months by then trying to find the fault and had had the engine and gearbox out and all sorts of other bits. It was chance conversation with the workshop manager, trying to think through the problem together, when I recalled the Safrane event and the lightbulb in his eyes went on - he dashed into the workshop, grabbed the ECU from their loan car and bingo - problem solved. Looking back in the service records, they had replaced my ECU previously.....and this found the bad batch. Report back to Lexus uncovered about 10 other similar mysterious problems recorded for head scratching.
Mark-C said:
BenS94 said:
One for the brave - failed MOT with corrosion November 2022 then passed and seemingly no more miles since then.Could be a bargain of course ...
Almost certainly an absolute dog underneath.
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