Is there any better family car than a Range Rover?
Discussion
Ken_Code said:
Anyway, enough people have suggested an estate car that I’ll try one.
I’m taking out a GTC4 Lusso next week so will see if everyone’s right.
I went from SUV's to estate, the latter makes far more sense for my needs, still have plenty of load space and in general they are usually going to be far better handling. I’m taking out a GTC4 Lusso next week so will see if everyone’s right.
If you need the ground clearance, extra loading height or simply prefer the higher seating position then SUV all the way. I do find that SUV's can often have far more rear legroom as well if that's important.
Phil. said:
The seating position in the FFRR is one of its big advantages. It’s so comfortable, great leg room, and high up you can relax more, especially on motorways, because you can see much further ahead and respond much earlier to changes in traffic flow. No estate will achieve this.
You've obviously never driven a BMW with Active Driving Assist, my old 3 Series could detect slowing traffic about 20 bloody miles away. Drove me nuts.
It’s disappointing that so many people want to derail discussions, but thanks to those who’ve contributed.
A big part of what I like in the current car as I mentioned above is the low window-line compared to the rear seat height. It really does reduce travel sickness, as does the general large amount of glass, including the huge panoramic roof. This is what I think I’ll perhaps struggle to get in most estates.
Anyway, I’ll have a try of a couple and see how they feel.
A big part of what I like in the current car as I mentioned above is the low window-line compared to the rear seat height. It really does reduce travel sickness, as does the general large amount of glass, including the huge panoramic roof. This is what I think I’ll perhaps struggle to get in most estates.
Anyway, I’ll have a try of a couple and see how they feel.
My kids were a large part of the reason that I switched to EV, kids of their generation just don’t want to be seen in gas guzzlers. My youngest got to the stage of making me drop her in the next street so she could walk into school rather than be dropped off in a V8 BMW!
Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Friday 24th May 11:36
Phil. said:
The seating position in the FFRR is one of its big advantages. It’s so comfortable, great leg room, and high up you can relax more, especially on motorways, because you can see much further ahead and respond much earlier to changes in traffic flow. No estate will achieve this.
Being able to see so far ahead seems an excuse for tailgating, IME. Whether, van, SUV, truck.740EVTORQUES said:
My kids were a large part of the reason that I switched to EV, kids of their generation just don’t want to be seen in gas guzzlers. My youngest got to the stage of making me drop her in the next street so she could walk into school rather than be dropped off in a V8 BMW!
Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Mine are the total opposite. If I ever give them the choice of car for the school run, they want to take the 996. 14 year old girl, and 12 and 7 year old boys. Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Friday 24th May 11:36
Rusty Old-Banger said:
740EVTORQUES said:
My kids were a large part of the reason that I switched to EV, kids of their generation just don’t want to be seen in gas guzzlers. My youngest got to the stage of making me drop her in the next street so she could walk into school rather than be dropped off in a V8 BMW!
Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Mine are the total opposite. If I ever give them the choice of car for the school run, they want to take the 996. 14 year old girl, and 12 and 7 year old boys. Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Friday 24th May 11:36
740EVTORQUES said:
My kids were a large part of the reason that I switched to EV, kids of their generation just don’t want to be seen in gas guzzlers. My youngest got to the stage of making me drop her in the next street so she could walk into school rather than be dropped off in a V8 BMW!
Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Sounds like you did something wrong Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Friday 24th May 11:36
Mine love it. Although the EV is faster than the V8.
Do you they also refuse to get planes to go on holidays? Otherwise it most definitely is just virtue signalling.
740EVTORQUES said:
My kids were a large part of the reason that I switched to EV, kids of their generation just don’t want to be seen in gas guzzlers. My youngest got to the stage of making me drop her in the next street so she could walk into school rather than be dropped off in a V8 BMW!
Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
I have an EV. I use it to go to the shops and do the school run. It’s a small one with a forty mile range, so I’m not lugging around half a tonne of batteries when I don’t need to.Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Friday 24th May 11:36
ettore said:
Rusty Old-Banger said:
740EVTORQUES said:
My kids were a large part of the reason that I switched to EV, kids of their generation just don’t want to be seen in gas guzzlers. My youngest got to the stage of making me drop her in the next street so she could walk into school rather than be dropped off in a V8 BMW!
Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Mine are the total opposite. If I ever give them the choice of car for the school run, they want to take the 996. 14 year old girl, and 12 and 7 year old boys. Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Friday 24th May 11:36
ChocolateFrog said:
Sounds like you did something wrong
Mine love it. Although the EV is faster than the V8.
Do you they also refuse to get planes to go on holidays? Otherwise it most definitely is just virtue signalling.
And of course if anyone really was as concerned with the environment as they make out they’d not be having multiple children in the first place.Mine love it. Although the EV is faster than the V8.
Do you they also refuse to get planes to go on holidays? Otherwise it most definitely is just virtue signalling.
Doing that then criticising what someone else drives is a little hypocritical.
Bit late to this, but I would suggest the Disco 5 is up there if you're going down the SUV family car route. Has very similar attributes to the FFRR but in a more family-friendly package - additional seats to ferry extra friends from playdates/football matches etc. Wipe clean materials which ape leather take sticky fingers and mud well, very comfy cabing, not bad driving dynamics and in the D300 form mine is - a decently punchy powerplant matched with good fuel economy (min. 30mpg on most of our runs but up to 40mpg on a long economy cruise).
So far only a leaking windscreen to complain about, otherwise all good going and very few horror stories on the D5 forums (far less than a read on PH would suggest are issues), unless you go for the previous 2l variant.
P.S. - we have three kids and couldn't make the FFRR work for us with 2 x child seats plus lanky pre-teen.
So far only a leaking windscreen to complain about, otherwise all good going and very few horror stories on the D5 forums (far less than a read on PH would suggest are issues), unless you go for the previous 2l variant.
P.S. - we have three kids and couldn't make the FFRR work for us with 2 x child seats plus lanky pre-teen.
Pica-Pica said:
Phil. said:
The seating position in the FFRR is one of its big advantages. It’s so comfortable, great leg room, and high up you can relax more, especially on motorways, because you can see much further ahead and respond much earlier to changes in traffic flow. No estate will achieve this.
Being able to see so far ahead seems an excuse for tailgating, IME. Whether, van, SUV, truck.
Pica-Pica said:
Being able to see so far ahead seems an excuse for tailgating, IME. Whether, van, SUV, truck.
Quite the opposite. Leave a reasonable distance to the car in front, ease off the accelerator when you see changes far ahead and only brake when absolutely necessary. Makes for relaxed driving unlike the tailgaters who are constantly on/off the brakes. I was taught that braking on a motorway should be avoided but that was quite a few years ago and the increase in traffic and tailgating does now require it on occasion.
Ken_Code said:
740EVTORQUES said:
My kids were a large part of the reason that I switched to EV, kids of their generation just don’t want to be seen in gas guzzlers. My youngest got to the stage of making me drop her in the next street so she could walk into school rather than be dropped off in a V8 BMW!
Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
I have an EV. I use it to go to the shops and do the school run. It’s a small one with a forty mile range, so I’m not lugging around half a tonne of batteries when I don’t need to.Now I think that’s a bit extreme, but it matters to me what my kids think and so I reluctantly agreed to try an EV. I’m so glad I did, for me it’s so much better, even if you don’t believe in the environmental thing (I do).
Some people like RRs, some for the utility, some for the image, others hate them viscerally for the same reason and would rather buy a Volvo (or an EV)
I suspect that colours peoples opinions far more than just the reported unreliability of JLR products.
It’s not virtue signalling, but your choice of car is rightly or wrongly perceived as saying a lot about you and your choices. For that reason alone I would never buy a Range Rover, but I can see why others might
Edited by 740EVTORQUES on Friday 24th May 11:36
CivicDuties said:
Sounds like your EV is a better family car than the Range Rover then. Seems to be doing the majority of the family duties.
I know that you’re just trying to be a smart arse here, but as per my first post.“We have a little electric car for the local runs, and a selection of sports cars for being sporty, so for me a family car means a big, bright rear seating area with large windows, to stop the young children getting car sick; a vary big boot for when we travel, and a car that’s just “nice” to jump in and drive.”
Ken_Code said:
CivicDuties said:
Sounds like your EV is a better family car than the Range Rover then. Seems to be doing the majority of the family duties.
I know that you’re just trying to be a smart arse here, but as per my first post.“We have a little electric car for the local runs, and a selection of sports cars for being sporty, so for me a family car means a big, bright rear seating area with large windows, to stop the young children getting car sick; a vary big boot for when we travel, and a car that’s just “nice” to jump in and drive.”
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