Jag XKR vs. C63 Coupe
Discussion
I've owned two XKR's and now own an XK. Can't compare it to the Merc as have never driven one. They are great for touring, have done three Europe trips now and performed marvellously. Very comfortable in all temperatures, plenty space for luggage (that's what the back seats are for!) and 24mpg for the XKR, 26mpg for the XK over the 3500 miles of each trip. Adaptive suspension works well for handling, noise is great on the twisties although Jag have made it comfortable inside so you cannot hear the exhaust the same unless you have the windows down. Reliability is good IMO, I had a loose steering problem due to incorrect tightening of a bolt after alignment - Jaguar admitted fault and paid for the service garage costs in Switzerland. Last trip the battery gave up on my XK (6 years old) and had to replace this - again in Switzerland at a huge cost 
Other than that, no issues at all with any of them. They do turn heads in all countries I've travelled so they must look or sound the part!
Other than that, no issues at all with any of them. They do turn heads in all countries I've travelled so they must look or sound the part!Not had an XKR but had the same engine in an XFR, amazing engine...did drive the XKR-S too when I considered changing but with two little girls absolutely no chance for me. I ended up getting a facelift C63 (not coupe but estate) but I think as some have pointed out above, the XKR is more of a GT, the 63 is a bit of a hoon. I love mine. Sound is incredible! If you have hobbies that may require additional space then maybe C63 coupe is potentially more practical choice (did I just say that!) but bare in mind, the XKR can swallow a set of golf clubs too so hardly lacking in boot space, just rear space for passengers is a joke.
Good luck!
Good luck!
V88Dicky said:
Check the latest reliability indexes. Jaguar are ahead of Mercedes, Audi and Porsche and only marginally behind BMW.
The XK / XKR is widely considered the most reliable car in its class (large GT)
...It was your idea!The XK / XKR is widely considered the most reliable car in its class (large GT)
Edited by Gallen on Wednesday 19th October 11:21
Edited by Gallen on Wednesday 19th October 11:25
Tuvra said:
I think saying its more "council" is purely age related.
The C63 will be far more appealing to the majority of people under 35 and for that reason, its "council".
I agree. The C63 will be far more appealing to the majority of people under 35 and for that reason, its "council".
We're thinking of a current C63 (or C43 4-matic), or a C63s if we can stretch to it (having discounted an M3 which was too small, and the M5) - although the other half wants a big 4x4 #boring.
Interestingly, the C43 (with upgraded AMG Sports seats) or C63s (with the "s" seats as part of the package) actually offer more rear leg room for little people of whom their knees don't bend. This is down to the shape of the bucket seats.
It does bother me that they do (or certainly did) attract a much younger crowd.
I think that this was because the styling of the previous model was a bit in your face - They are more subtle now.
Regarding subtle, if that's a good thing or not well I'm undecided.
The XKR vs C63 coupe comparison is like comparing an M5 to an M4. There's nothing wrong in the comparison of course not, but they are very different - both nice, and a good position to be in
G.
Edited by Gallen on Wednesday 19th October 13:28
The jag is 'an old mans car' and the C63 is 'a young yobs car'. Power maybe similar but your essentially comparing apples to oranges really.
I am a young yob, so I have a C63 lol. I was a bit bothered by the image that they have, stereotypically all owned by young lads from Birmingham and Manchester.. so cars for sale in that area I stayed away from!
The C63 is raw, brute power when in S+ or M mode. its addictive, relentless power. It is perfectly civilised in C mode if your commuting or just not in the mood to shred your tyres.. considering the rear profile on the 19'' tyres is 30 its surprisingly ok, I have always had lowered cars so im used to the very hard ride but I know others are not so much of a fan.
the interior is brilliant, coupes are facelift cars only as is my saloon. Coupes have a pano roof as a standard feature. Xenons, BT and Command nav are standard on saloon and coupe (command online being an additional.. if a little pointless). Heated leather is standard. there isn't many options to look for unless its an LSD or Performance pack. Id personally avoid the performance pack as the discs are £2k to replace and a remap can take the car past 500 anyway.. an LSD can always be fitted later too should you feel the need.
I average 20mpg. This is giving it death and driving like miss daisy.. ive done 3000 miles in mine so far. The best ive had from a tank is 240 miles, with £65 to fill it up from empty with super unleaded.
first set of rears ive just replaced, £360 for Conti ContactSport 6's. The ones they replaced last for about 7k from what I can see.
Generally and in my opinion, enjoy the C63 while you can. You've said yourself its a car you've always wanted so its clearly an itch you need to scratch.. you'll never come across a 6.2 nuke in a car designed for a little diesel engine ever again. Leave it any later and clean, unabused examples will be harder to come across I reckon. The fact is, there is a bit of a reason why the C63 is quite a bit more popular ( at the moment) than something like the XKR.
The jag... meh. Plenty of time for a jaaaaag later!
Irfan
I am a young yob, so I have a C63 lol. I was a bit bothered by the image that they have, stereotypically all owned by young lads from Birmingham and Manchester.. so cars for sale in that area I stayed away from!
The C63 is raw, brute power when in S+ or M mode. its addictive, relentless power. It is perfectly civilised in C mode if your commuting or just not in the mood to shred your tyres.. considering the rear profile on the 19'' tyres is 30 its surprisingly ok, I have always had lowered cars so im used to the very hard ride but I know others are not so much of a fan.
the interior is brilliant, coupes are facelift cars only as is my saloon. Coupes have a pano roof as a standard feature. Xenons, BT and Command nav are standard on saloon and coupe (command online being an additional.. if a little pointless). Heated leather is standard. there isn't many options to look for unless its an LSD or Performance pack. Id personally avoid the performance pack as the discs are £2k to replace and a remap can take the car past 500 anyway.. an LSD can always be fitted later too should you feel the need.
I average 20mpg. This is giving it death and driving like miss daisy.. ive done 3000 miles in mine so far. The best ive had from a tank is 240 miles, with £65 to fill it up from empty with super unleaded.
first set of rears ive just replaced, £360 for Conti ContactSport 6's. The ones they replaced last for about 7k from what I can see.
Generally and in my opinion, enjoy the C63 while you can. You've said yourself its a car you've always wanted so its clearly an itch you need to scratch.. you'll never come across a 6.2 nuke in a car designed for a little diesel engine ever again. Leave it any later and clean, unabused examples will be harder to come across I reckon. The fact is, there is a bit of a reason why the C63 is quite a bit more popular ( at the moment) than something like the XKR.
The jag... meh. Plenty of time for a jaaaaag later!
Irfan
I'm a C63 Coupe owner and have been for three years now. That should hopefully tell you something about whether or not the car is worth keeping.
To talk about the Performance Pack, as this is something that confused me when I was purchasing, note that you can have with a PP model or non-PP model, but neither are guaranteed to have a mechanical LSD. I purchased mine without the Performance Pack but with the AMG LSD. If I am totally honest, versus a friend's C63 without the AMG LSD (but has the Performance Pack) I really can't notice much of a difference unless you're tooling it out of a bend or launching. Even then, the difference is minimal and the eLSD does a great job on the non-diff model if you ask me. The mechanical diff is progressive and you don't know it's there where as if you don't have one, you can retrofit a Quaife unit which is more evident as it bites harder. To retrofit budget around £1500 albeit it doesn't need to be serviced unlike the AMG diff.
My only regret in not taking the PP version is that mine didn't come with a carbon fibre rear spoiler which IMO makes a really nice addition to the rear accompanied with finned diffuser and quad tail pipes. It also makes it stand out a little better than the run of the mill 220CDi's so, I sorted this and retrofitted an AMG spoiler at a later date. Things like the bulged bonnet and wider front arches make the package look right. Mine is painted in "playboy" Diamond White Pearl which works really well with the black bits and carbon spoiler, along with 19" AMG wheels in black with diamond cut outer lip. Of course the power hike would have been nice now I think retrospectively but, I figured that one out with a remap and a resulting 520hp. That's just a number but the extra power really does make it more enjoyable.
Aside from this, I don't miss the red brake calipers found on the PP (I prefer the grey), and the carbon composite front brakes offer nothing more in size, only a little less unsprung weight and better cooling which again I can't feel on the road and I suppose might only become evident on a track. A nice to have from the PP would have been the lightened crankshaft but, on the road it really makes no difference and I cannot tell any difference in the engine's rev-happy natures between the two cars (now both are remapped). The engine in itself revs very freely, it's snappy and instantaneous in any gear.
The car is purely addictive and starting it up from cold is an event. If you are to believe the car review videos you'll believe that all this car wants to do is over-steer but that's not the case (although very easy). It's very precise and the front digs in, while the rear powers through with control unless you stab on it.
There's good scope to further the performance if you want, with exhaust options taking it to around 560hp. I've seen a few US guys go with camshafts and then there is always supercharging but IMO that's little far removing the car from its original formula, however 650+hp depending on which supercharger you choose does sound appealing.
The interior I've never felt bad. It's better than the M3 of the same generation and feels smart, modern, grown up but most importantly is laid out so that you can concentrate on driving it. It could feel a little more luxurious if talking about the dashboard i.e leather covered alike W205 C63 but I'd not really want much more. The car begs to be driven (not ragged) and you're wasting your money if you won't do that. The seats are chunky and hold you in, the leather wears very well and I have no rattles although I'd say give the rubber seals on the pano-roof a lube once a year.
MPG I have no idea about and I don't care. Never looked, just fill it when needed.
Sound, you and all of your neighbours know about.
Image in my parts is good where there are very few of this car. It looks smart, modern, sporty, muscly and luxurious rolled into one package. The playboy white pearl I have looks wonderful in the sun and appears to grab attention but, I'm not crazy about that as not all attention is good attention. I'd advise that if you want to fly under the radar then go for black, silver or grey otherwise you'll attract enthusiasts or wronguns. I still find it astonishing that people take photos of my car in central London. Weird.
Reliability. Nothing (touch wood) whatsoever in three years.
Tyres. Depends on you but 7k is reasonable, 10k at best. It likes premium brands so budget for Conti's or such like.
Road fund is £515pa.
£70 roughly fills the tank and you'll get around 250miles for that with mixed driving.
Ride is firm but not crashy. My runaround is a Fiesta ST and that thing is rock solid in comparison whereas the C63 is the perfect balance. 18" wheels apparently ride better but I don't know this, only that they look lost in the arches.
Wheels have several stories of cracking, alike BMW's and other big wheel/slim tyre combos. Keep tyre pressures up and stay away from holes and you'll be fine but check out used cars for bad welds on the inner wheel lip.
Media is good. COMAND works well and with speed without being too technical. I've heard both Harman Kardon (mine) and the standard sound system and unlike BMW they aren't world's apart, in fact the standard kit is very good and can if you wish be upgraded by installing the HK speakers which are plug and play. I believe that the HK EQ can be unlocked in the COMAND engineer's menu. That's effort but what I'm saying is don;t let it be a deal breaker.
To talk about the Performance Pack, as this is something that confused me when I was purchasing, note that you can have with a PP model or non-PP model, but neither are guaranteed to have a mechanical LSD. I purchased mine without the Performance Pack but with the AMG LSD. If I am totally honest, versus a friend's C63 without the AMG LSD (but has the Performance Pack) I really can't notice much of a difference unless you're tooling it out of a bend or launching. Even then, the difference is minimal and the eLSD does a great job on the non-diff model if you ask me. The mechanical diff is progressive and you don't know it's there where as if you don't have one, you can retrofit a Quaife unit which is more evident as it bites harder. To retrofit budget around £1500 albeit it doesn't need to be serviced unlike the AMG diff.
My only regret in not taking the PP version is that mine didn't come with a carbon fibre rear spoiler which IMO makes a really nice addition to the rear accompanied with finned diffuser and quad tail pipes. It also makes it stand out a little better than the run of the mill 220CDi's so, I sorted this and retrofitted an AMG spoiler at a later date. Things like the bulged bonnet and wider front arches make the package look right. Mine is painted in "playboy" Diamond White Pearl which works really well with the black bits and carbon spoiler, along with 19" AMG wheels in black with diamond cut outer lip. Of course the power hike would have been nice now I think retrospectively but, I figured that one out with a remap and a resulting 520hp. That's just a number but the extra power really does make it more enjoyable.
Aside from this, I don't miss the red brake calipers found on the PP (I prefer the grey), and the carbon composite front brakes offer nothing more in size, only a little less unsprung weight and better cooling which again I can't feel on the road and I suppose might only become evident on a track. A nice to have from the PP would have been the lightened crankshaft but, on the road it really makes no difference and I cannot tell any difference in the engine's rev-happy natures between the two cars (now both are remapped). The engine in itself revs very freely, it's snappy and instantaneous in any gear.
The car is purely addictive and starting it up from cold is an event. If you are to believe the car review videos you'll believe that all this car wants to do is over-steer but that's not the case (although very easy). It's very precise and the front digs in, while the rear powers through with control unless you stab on it.
There's good scope to further the performance if you want, with exhaust options taking it to around 560hp. I've seen a few US guys go with camshafts and then there is always supercharging but IMO that's little far removing the car from its original formula, however 650+hp depending on which supercharger you choose does sound appealing.
The interior I've never felt bad. It's better than the M3 of the same generation and feels smart, modern, grown up but most importantly is laid out so that you can concentrate on driving it. It could feel a little more luxurious if talking about the dashboard i.e leather covered alike W205 C63 but I'd not really want much more. The car begs to be driven (not ragged) and you're wasting your money if you won't do that. The seats are chunky and hold you in, the leather wears very well and I have no rattles although I'd say give the rubber seals on the pano-roof a lube once a year.
MPG I have no idea about and I don't care. Never looked, just fill it when needed.
Sound, you and all of your neighbours know about.
Image in my parts is good where there are very few of this car. It looks smart, modern, sporty, muscly and luxurious rolled into one package. The playboy white pearl I have looks wonderful in the sun and appears to grab attention but, I'm not crazy about that as not all attention is good attention. I'd advise that if you want to fly under the radar then go for black, silver or grey otherwise you'll attract enthusiasts or wronguns. I still find it astonishing that people take photos of my car in central London. Weird.
Reliability. Nothing (touch wood) whatsoever in three years.
Tyres. Depends on you but 7k is reasonable, 10k at best. It likes premium brands so budget for Conti's or such like.
Road fund is £515pa.
£70 roughly fills the tank and you'll get around 250miles for that with mixed driving.
Ride is firm but not crashy. My runaround is a Fiesta ST and that thing is rock solid in comparison whereas the C63 is the perfect balance. 18" wheels apparently ride better but I don't know this, only that they look lost in the arches.
Wheels have several stories of cracking, alike BMW's and other big wheel/slim tyre combos. Keep tyre pressures up and stay away from holes and you'll be fine but check out used cars for bad welds on the inner wheel lip.
Media is good. COMAND works well and with speed without being too technical. I've heard both Harman Kardon (mine) and the standard sound system and unlike BMW they aren't world's apart, in fact the standard kit is very good and can if you wish be upgraded by installing the HK speakers which are plug and play. I believe that the HK EQ can be unlocked in the COMAND engineer's menu. That's effort but what I'm saying is don;t let it be a deal breaker.
Edited by Swole on Wednesday 19th October 15:11
Swole said:
I'm a C63 Coupe owner and have been for three years now. That should hopefully tell you something about whether or not the car is worth keeping.
To talk about the Performance Pack, as this is something that confused me when I was purchasing, note that you can have with a PP model or non-PP model, but neither are guaranteed to have a mechanical LSD. I purchased mine without the Performance Pack but with the AMG LSD. If I am totally honest, versus a friend's C63 without the AMG LSD (but has the Performance Pack) I really can't notice much of a difference unless you're tooling it out of a bend or launching. Even then, the difference is minimal and the eLSD does a great job on the non-diff model if you ask me. The mechanical diff is progressive and you don't know it's there where as if you don't have one, you can retrofit a Quaife unit which is more evident as it bites harder. To retrofit budget around £1500 albeit it doesn't need to be serviced unlike the AMG diff.
My only regret in not taking the PP version is that mine didn't come with a carbon fibre rear spoiler which IMO makes a really nice addition to the rear accompanied with finned diffuser and quad tail pipes. It also makes it stand out a little better than the run of the mill 220CDi's so, I sorted this and retrofitted an AMG spoiler at a later date. Things like the bulged bonnet and wider front arches make the package look right. Mine is painted in "playboy" Diamond White Pearl which works really well with the black bits and carbon spoiler, along with 19" AMG wheels in black with diamond cut outer lip. Of course the power hike would have been nice now I think retrospectively but, I figured that one out with a remap and a resulting 520hp. That's just a number but the extra power really does make it more enjoyable.
Aside from this, I don't miss the red brake calipers found on the PP (I prefer the grey), and the carbon composite front brakes offer nothing more in size, only a little less unsprung weight and better cooling which again I can't feel on the road and I suppose might only become evident on a track. A nice to have from the PP would have been the lightened crankshaft but, on the road it really makes no difference and I cannot tell any difference in the engine's rev-happy natures between the two cars (now both are remapped). The engine in itself revs very freely, it's snappy and instantaneous in any gear.
The car is purely addictive and starting it up from cold is an event. If you are to believe the car review videos you'll believe that all this car wants to do is over-steer but that's not the case (although very easy). It's very precise and the front digs in, while the rear powers through with control unless you stab on it.
There's good scope to further the performance if you want, with exhaust options taking it to around 560hp. I've seen a few US guys go with camshafts and then there is always supercharging but IMO that's little far removing the car from its original formula, however 650+hp depending on which supercharger you choose does sound appealing.
The interior I've never felt bad. It's better than the M3 of the same generation and feels smart, modern, grown up but most importantly is laid out so that you can concentrate on driving it. It could feel a little more luxurious if talking about the dashboard i.e leather covered alike W205 C63 but I'd not really want much more. The car begs to be driven (not ragged) and you're wasting your money if you won't do that. The seats are chunky and hold you in, the leather wears very well and I have no rattles although I'd say give the rubber seals on the pano-roof a lube once a year.
MPG I have no idea about and I don't care. Never looked, just fill it when needed.
Sound, you and all of your neighbours know about.
Image in my parts is good where there are very few of this car. It looks smart, modern, sporty, muscly and luxurious rolled into one package. The playboy white pearl I have looks wonderful in the sun and appears to grab attention but, I'm not crazy about that as not all attention is good attention. I'd advise that if you want to fly under the radar then go for black, silver or grey otherwise you'll attract enthusiasts or wronguns. I still find it astonishing that people take photos of my car in central London. Weird.
Reliability. Nothing (touch wood) whatsoever in three years.
Tyres. Depends on you but 7k is reasonable, 10k at best. It likes premium brands so budget for Conti's or such like.
Road fund is £515pa.
£70 roughly fills the tank and you'll get around 250miles for that with mixed driving.
Ride is firm but not crashy. My runaround is a Fiesta ST and that thing is rock solid in comparison whereas the C63 is the perfect balance. 18" wheels apparently ride better but I don't know this, only that they look lost in the arches.
Wheels have several stories of cracking, alike BMW's and other big wheel/slim tyre combos. Keep tyre pressures up and stay away from holes and you'll be fine but check out used cars for bad welds on the inner wheel lip.
Media is good. COMAND works well and with speed without being too technical. I've heard both Harman Kardon (mine) and the standard sound system and unlike BMW they aren't world's apart, in fact the standard kit is very good and can if you wish be upgraded by installing the HK speakers which are plug and play. I believe that the HK EQ can be unlocked in the COMAND engineer's menu. That's effort but what I'm saying is don;t let it be a deal breaker.
That review is pretty much all you need to know. Spot on.To talk about the Performance Pack, as this is something that confused me when I was purchasing, note that you can have with a PP model or non-PP model, but neither are guaranteed to have a mechanical LSD. I purchased mine without the Performance Pack but with the AMG LSD. If I am totally honest, versus a friend's C63 without the AMG LSD (but has the Performance Pack) I really can't notice much of a difference unless you're tooling it out of a bend or launching. Even then, the difference is minimal and the eLSD does a great job on the non-diff model if you ask me. The mechanical diff is progressive and you don't know it's there where as if you don't have one, you can retrofit a Quaife unit which is more evident as it bites harder. To retrofit budget around £1500 albeit it doesn't need to be serviced unlike the AMG diff.
My only regret in not taking the PP version is that mine didn't come with a carbon fibre rear spoiler which IMO makes a really nice addition to the rear accompanied with finned diffuser and quad tail pipes. It also makes it stand out a little better than the run of the mill 220CDi's so, I sorted this and retrofitted an AMG spoiler at a later date. Things like the bulged bonnet and wider front arches make the package look right. Mine is painted in "playboy" Diamond White Pearl which works really well with the black bits and carbon spoiler, along with 19" AMG wheels in black with diamond cut outer lip. Of course the power hike would have been nice now I think retrospectively but, I figured that one out with a remap and a resulting 520hp. That's just a number but the extra power really does make it more enjoyable.
Aside from this, I don't miss the red brake calipers found on the PP (I prefer the grey), and the carbon composite front brakes offer nothing more in size, only a little less unsprung weight and better cooling which again I can't feel on the road and I suppose might only become evident on a track. A nice to have from the PP would have been the lightened crankshaft but, on the road it really makes no difference and I cannot tell any difference in the engine's rev-happy natures between the two cars (now both are remapped). The engine in itself revs very freely, it's snappy and instantaneous in any gear.
The car is purely addictive and starting it up from cold is an event. If you are to believe the car review videos you'll believe that all this car wants to do is over-steer but that's not the case (although very easy). It's very precise and the front digs in, while the rear powers through with control unless you stab on it.
There's good scope to further the performance if you want, with exhaust options taking it to around 560hp. I've seen a few US guys go with camshafts and then there is always supercharging but IMO that's little far removing the car from its original formula, however 650+hp depending on which supercharger you choose does sound appealing.
The interior I've never felt bad. It's better than the M3 of the same generation and feels smart, modern, grown up but most importantly is laid out so that you can concentrate on driving it. It could feel a little more luxurious if talking about the dashboard i.e leather covered alike W205 C63 but I'd not really want much more. The car begs to be driven (not ragged) and you're wasting your money if you won't do that. The seats are chunky and hold you in, the leather wears very well and I have no rattles although I'd say give the rubber seals on the pano-roof a lube once a year.
MPG I have no idea about and I don't care. Never looked, just fill it when needed.
Sound, you and all of your neighbours know about.
Image in my parts is good where there are very few of this car. It looks smart, modern, sporty, muscly and luxurious rolled into one package. The playboy white pearl I have looks wonderful in the sun and appears to grab attention but, I'm not crazy about that as not all attention is good attention. I'd advise that if you want to fly under the radar then go for black, silver or grey otherwise you'll attract enthusiasts or wronguns. I still find it astonishing that people take photos of my car in central London. Weird.
Reliability. Nothing (touch wood) whatsoever in three years.
Tyres. Depends on you but 7k is reasonable, 10k at best. It likes premium brands so budget for Conti's or such like.
Road fund is £515pa.
£70 roughly fills the tank and you'll get around 250miles for that with mixed driving.
Ride is firm but not crashy. My runaround is a Fiesta ST and that thing is rock solid in comparison whereas the C63 is the perfect balance. 18" wheels apparently ride better but I don't know this, only that they look lost in the arches.
Wheels have several stories of cracking, alike BMW's and other big wheel/slim tyre combos. Keep tyre pressures up and stay away from holes and you'll be fine but check out used cars for bad welds on the inner wheel lip.
Media is good. COMAND works well and with speed without being too technical. I've heard both Harman Kardon (mine) and the standard sound system and unlike BMW they aren't world's apart, in fact the standard kit is very good and can if you wish be upgraded by installing the HK speakers which are plug and play. I believe that the HK EQ can be unlocked in the COMAND engineer's menu. That's effort but what I'm saying is don;t let it be a deal breaker.
Edited by Swole on Wednesday 19th October 15:11
Gallen said:
V88Dicky said:
Check the latest reliability indexes. Jaguar are ahead of Mercedes, Audi and Porsche and only marginally behind BMW.
The XK / XKR is widely considered the most reliable car in its class (large GT)
...It was your idea!The XK / XKR is widely considered the most reliable car in its class (large GT)
Edited by Gallen on Wednesday 19th October 11:21
Edited by Gallen on Wednesday 19th October 11:25
Scroll to the bottom for the list.
And there's no mention of the C63 in your post, just the generic C Class range
V88Dicky said:
http://www.whatcar.com/news/honda-named-uks-reliab...
Scroll to the bottom for the list.
And there's no mention of the C63 in your post, just the generic C Class range
The C63, especially the facelift, is known to be very reliable. Not sure what you're talking about to be honest. Highly likely that a 63 will be more reliable than an XK.Scroll to the bottom for the list.
And there's no mention of the C63 in your post, just the generic C Class range
mikearwas said:
V88Dicky said:
http://www.whatcar.com/news/honda-named-uks-reliab...
Scroll to the bottom for the list.
And there's no mention of the C63 in your post, just the generic C Class range
The C63, especially the facelift, is known to be very reliable. Not sure what you're talking about to be honest. Highly likely that a 63 will be more reliable than an XK.Scroll to the bottom for the list.
And there's no mention of the C63 in your post, just the generic C Class range
mikearwas said:
V88Dicky said:
I've no doubt the C63 is reliable, I was merely responding to an earlier poster who had doubts about the reliability of (modern era) Jaguars
Fair enough! They have definitely got much better in recent times! Lovely pair of cars you have by the way.
I must admit, it was a close call between an SLK55 and an XKR, but I settled on the XKR eventually. Loved the idea of a 5.4 shoehorned into a little SLK
V88Dicky said:
Scroll to the bottom for the list.
In fairness (and referring to J.D. Power survey 2016) as brands, Jaguar does beat Merc, scoring 91.78 vs a measly 91.74 for Mercedes!(I'm unsure if this is averaged over volume of sales which saw Mercedes 2015-16 at 1,871,511 vs JLR's 487,065 for 2015. Big difference - but quite frankly, who cares!
)So the upshot is if you get the Merc, it will probably be 0.04% less reliable.
Both are nice cars, and I'm just being pedantic!
G.
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