What car: V6 or straight 6, £10k
Discussion
rustfalia said:
Got bored of my Fiesta same as yours so sold it, bought an ep3 type R and put a deposit on a house instead.
To answer your question however id consider something Japanese like posted above, should hold its "value" well but I'm not convinced the market is there for 9k toyota chasers and cable ties holding the front bumper together.
Might take a while to find a buyer once you want to move on?
Something to consider.
EP3 isn't exactly the most fun is it though? A BMW with a straight 6 will be miles better. To answer your question however id consider something Japanese like posted above, should hold its "value" well but I'm not convinced the market is there for 9k toyota chasers and cable ties holding the front bumper together.
Might take a while to find a buyer once you want to move on?
Something to consider.
Edited by rustfalia on Sunday 6th January 21:23
The 370Z would be my pick with a cracking chassis & a sweet V6, followed by the GTA (if you can live with the LHD) the 350Z because one within budget will be easier to find, if the GTA is a step to far then the Brera is the pick.
The ST is a great car & the 6 cylinder options bring a different dynamic to proceedings for example a 130i won't compare handling wise unless you add some M3 parts to it but it will feel a bit more polished at 8/10ths if not as as good thereafter.
I'd say test drive some options & see if what cars take your fancy the Chasers are fun & have a very decent chassis but you do have to do a few mods to get the best from them.
The ST is a great car & the 6 cylinder options bring a different dynamic to proceedings for example a 130i won't compare handling wise unless you add some M3 parts to it but it will feel a bit more polished at 8/10ths if not as as good thereafter.
I'd say test drive some options & see if what cars take your fancy the Chasers are fun & have a very decent chassis but you do have to do a few mods to get the best from them.
aaron_2000 said:
EP3 isn't exactly the most fun is it though? A BMW with a straight 6 will be miles better.
A std E36 328 is pretty dull, an E46 is worse I don't suppose later ones are much better just heavier, more complicated, throttle delay, clutch delay, no LSDI'd only consider an M3 or E30 325 Sport over an EP3 if fun was the main criteria
Petrolsmasher said:
I also have a mk7 fiesta st. The sound is very uninspiring and ive been close to swapping it myself for a v6. However after tons of research all the cars i found were either:
Heavy
Poor MPG
Expensive tax
Not well rated handling wise
Didnt come with many gadgets inside
Were too bulky.
I decided to keep my st as its just mental tbh. 230bhp in a small car which handles like its on rails and has amazing handling. Also loooks the part. Dont swap.
I think this is a very good point. Heavy
Poor MPG
Expensive tax
Not well rated handling wise
Didnt come with many gadgets inside
Were too bulky.
I decided to keep my st as its just mental tbh. 230bhp in a small car which handles like its on rails and has amazing handling. Also loooks the part. Dont swap.
I've had a bunch of V6s mentioned in this thread so far; 156 with busso v6 (had 2), Alfa Brera V6, e46 m3 etc and let me tell you they are all heavy cars, that have poor MPG.
Why buy them- they sound good! but v8s sound better... and then there's v12s.... pick the theme? the better they sound, the worse the MPG, and the higher the running costs generally (so my current daily driver is a Maserati quattroporte v8 as an example).
When you're really into how good a car can sound, running costs don't come into consideration... and while I respect the 400HP+ golf Rs, and various new BMW turbo M cars, no turbo car sounds good- most sound "parpy" with a performance exhaust on them... for some people its the sound that makes the driving experience (true with muscle cars too).
Electric cars bore me.... no matter how fast a Tesla is in ludicrous mode.....
Petrolsmasher said:
I also have a mk7 fiesta st. The sound is very uninspiring and ive been close to swapping it myself for a v6. However after tons of research all the cars i found were either:
Heavy
Poor MPG
Expensive tax
Not well rated handling wise
Didnt come with many gadgets inside
Were too bulky.
I decided to keep my st as its just mental tbh. 230bhp in a small car which handles like its on rails and has amazing handling. Also loooks the part. Dont swap.
This is exactly my problem. God damnit technology advancements! Heavy
Poor MPG
Expensive tax
Not well rated handling wise
Didnt come with many gadgets inside
Were too bulky.
I decided to keep my st as its just mental tbh. 230bhp in a small car which handles like its on rails and has amazing handling. Also loooks the part. Dont swap.
My plan in the long run is to get a m135i for around 16k. But at the moment, I'm thinking if buying a house, and making up the other 6k on finance will reduce the amount I can borrow apparently
aaron_2000 said:
rustfalia said:
Got bored of my Fiesta same as yours so sold it, bought an ep3 type R and put a deposit on a house instead.
To answer your question however id consider something Japanese like posted above, should hold its "value" well but I'm not convinced the market is there for 9k toyota chasers and cable ties holding the front bumper together.
Might take a while to find a buyer once you want to move on?
Something to consider.
EP3 isn't exactly the most fun is it though? A BMW with a straight 6 will be miles better. To answer your question however id consider something Japanese like posted above, should hold its "value" well but I'm not convinced the market is there for 9k toyota chasers and cable ties holding the front bumper together.
Might take a while to find a buyer once you want to move on?
Something to consider.
Edited by rustfalia on Sunday 6th January 21:23
Personally I couldn't think of anything worse than a mid spec bmw just to get a straight six.
Maybe a 335i m sport touring tho!
aaron_2000 said:
EP3 isn't exactly the most fun is it though? A BMW with a straight 6 will be miles better.
Having owned/driven bmws in e36/e39 and e46 forms and a ep3 civic type r + other lsd equipped jdm type Rs, I have more fun on a day to day basis throwing the fwd Hondas around. However I am craving another rwd 6+ cylinder!!!Op, what's the worst that would happen if you sold your St bought any of the cars suggested and if after a few months it's not for you buy another St.... They are dam common!!!
V8RX7 said:
aaron_2000 said:
EP3 isn't exactly the most fun is it though? A BMW with a straight 6 will be miles better.
A std E36 328 is pretty dull, an E46 is worse I don't suppose later ones are much better just heavier, more complicated, throttle delay, clutch delay, no LSDBigger engines are lovely for sure but the added weight can grate a fair bit, my E92 M3 felt like an absolute barge with a V8 in it. Bigger engines do sound very nice though, but they're normally mated to a heavy car. That's what I loved about the TVR so much because it had a lovely V8 engine but it wasn't a very heavy car.
I really do want to scratch the 350z/370z itch I have though! My Z4M felt heavy though so I think the weight could be an issue ultimately.
willmagrath said:
This is what I'm worried about. It costs me zilch to run, is as fast as my friends 130i and another friends R32 golf and is holding it's value really well!
Purchases like this become heart over head. You've got to REALLY want the car you buy as the most difficult thing can often be moving it on. Dealers don't want such cars and the market for them is small.For example, one of the 3.2 TTs ZX10R posted is for sale near me. I viewed it and it's a good example but it's a manual with the higher road tax and has now been stuck on the forecourt for 6 months.
Oh, and think again about the eventual plan of an M135i. The Fiesta ST is a MUCH better drivers car.
Petrolsmasher said:
With a bit of a tune on an st there wouldent be a lot in it.
On cp2 remap the quoted 0-60 is 5.8 seconds. And there is quicker stage 2 remaps out there.
Stock 335i will be quite a bit quicker than that. Put a tune on it and it's a whole new monster. They are very capable machines. On cp2 remap the quoted 0-60 is 5.8 seconds. And there is quicker stage 2 remaps out there.
windymissile said:
Petrolsmasher said:
With a bit of a tune on an st there wouldent be a lot in it.
On cp2 remap the quoted 0-60 is 5.8 seconds. And there is quicker stage 2 remaps out there.
Stock 335i will be quite a bit quicker than that. Put a tune on it and it's a whole new monster. They are very capable machines. On cp2 remap the quoted 0-60 is 5.8 seconds. And there is quicker stage 2 remaps out there.
Petrolsmasher said:
windymissile said:
Petrolsmasher said:
With a bit of a tune on an st there wouldent be a lot in it.
On cp2 remap the quoted 0-60 is 5.8 seconds. And there is quicker stage 2 remaps out there.
Stock 335i will be quite a bit quicker than that. Put a tune on it and it's a whole new monster. They are very capable machines. On cp2 remap the quoted 0-60 is 5.8 seconds. And there is quicker stage 2 remaps out there.
cerb4.5lee said:
V8RX7 said:
aaron_2000 said:
EP3 isn't exactly the most fun is it though? A BMW with a straight 6 will be miles better.
A std E36 328 is pretty dull, an E46 is worse I don't suppose later ones are much better just heavier, more complicated, throttle delay, clutch delay, no LSDBigger engines are lovely for sure but the added weight can grate a fair bit, my E92 M3 felt like an absolute barge with a V8 in it. Bigger engines do sound very nice though, but they're normally mated to a heavy car. That's what I loved about the TVR so much because it had a lovely V8 engine but it wasn't a very heavy car.
I really do want to scratch the 350z/370z itch I have though! My Z4M felt heavy though so I think the weight could be an issue ultimately.
I had an E90 330i for 4.5 years and replaced it with an E87 130i which I kept for a year.
The N52 3.0 is a lovely engine with a manual box, but is very different in the two cars.
I loved the 330i, and have good memories of trips to Le Mans and the N24 in it, but it took a while to really appreciate it.
The 130i was much more aggressive and got under your skin instantly because it was all about the engine, in the end though I couldn’t put up with the build quality or the ride and moved it on.
The N52 3.0 is a lovely engine with a manual box, but is very different in the two cars.
I loved the 330i, and have good memories of trips to Le Mans and the N24 in it, but it took a while to really appreciate it.
The 130i was much more aggressive and got under your skin instantly because it was all about the engine, in the end though I couldn’t put up with the build quality or the ride and moved it on.
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