PCP questions

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CrgT16

1,996 posts

110 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Irrespective of the PCP pros and cons that 17% interest rate is just really ridiculous. It’s so high that you should cut your losses when you can. Like you said you just wanted a car for a few years. You are paying in the region of 3000 a year for your car... 4 years is 12000. A bank loan would have made more sense....

Anyway you are where you are so you have to answer a few questions:
1- how long do I need the car before you leave the country and how much will it cost me?
2- it’s 250 rent something you can do with ease and just bear and grin it as it can cost money and time vt’ing and the. Search, buy and then sell another car?
3- just stating the obvious again...sorry 17%????!!! How did you miss that?

If needed for another year or so I would just carry on as you are

Monkeylegend

26,665 posts

233 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Jaetten said:
Wife, by her own admission, cannot count.

Probably a good job she can't.

17%, what were you thinking about when you signed for that.

ilikejam

1,089 posts

118 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Jeepers. That's like putting it on a credit card.

bad company

18,883 posts

268 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Jaetten said:
Thanks for the replies folks.
The interest is high, 17%, however the PCP was recommended
Recommended by the salesman? There’s a good reason for that. wink

I’m not trying to rub in that you seem to have made a bad deal here. Whether you decide to VT or carry on you need to learn from this.

This is worth reading:-

https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/car-finance-volunta...

Edited by bad company on Tuesday 5th February 12:06

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

140 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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17% apr PCP on a used Vauxhall

Christ on a bike


Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Would it be better to trade it in and take a different Zafira but with a vastly better Apr/ likely cheaper overall too and for a newer car to boot.

Montybaber

88 posts

64 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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I think it's a little unfair to ridicule the OP, yes the APR is high but it is all done now

We know that on used cars the APR is set higher but then there is less depreciation on the vehicle

Even 0% deals can be expensive when the value of the car plummets, it doesn't neccessarily make it a wise choice

I am glad the car served its purpose OP and that's the important thing

Roger Irrelevant

3,001 posts

115 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Montybaber said:
We know that on used cars the APR is set higher but then there is less depreciation on the vehicle
Ah yes, when you put it like that it makes perfect sense to spend almost £13,000 hiring a £9,500 car for four years, after which you have nothing (unless you pay a further £3,000). It may have served its purpose but Jesus I hope the OP is a bit more savvy next time round.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

56 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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I don't have paperwork to hand, but interest is accrued and not front loaded. My settlement figure is £9430.26 saving £2904.25 on interest.

The estimated car resale value is £8250 - £8500. At a guess, and a wild guess that is, I would get 5-6k at most selling back to dealer and talking with the PCP company on paying the remainder, or bank loan etc on lower interest and paying back in full.

Deep Thought

36,012 posts

199 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Jaetten said:
I don't have paperwork to hand, but interest is accrued and not front loaded. My settlement figure is £9430.26 saving £2904.25 on interest.

The estimated car resale value is £8250 - £8500. At a guess, and a wild guess that is, I would get 5-6k at most selling back to dealer and talking with the PCP company on paying the remainder, or bank loan etc on lower interest and paying back in full.
Borrowing £9,400 on a cheap 2.8% APR loan and you'd repay £272 a month over three years and then have nothing further to pay, effectively saving you the residual value payment.

https://www.money.co.uk/loans/unsecured-loans.htm

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Roger Irrelevant said:
Montybaber said:
We know that on used cars the APR is set higher but then there is less depreciation on the vehicle
Ah yes, when you put it like that it makes perfect sense to spend almost £13,000 hiring a £9,500 car for four years, after which you have nothing (unless you pay a further £3,000). It may have served its purpose but Jesus I hope the OP is a bit more savvy next time round.
Pointless talking about the split milk. It’s the next move that’s important.

Do nothing
Try to settle the PCP and take on a bank loan instead at a vastly lower rate
Change the car.

Deep Thought

36,012 posts

199 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Welshbeef said:
Pointless talking about the split milk. It’s the next move that’s important.

Do nothing
Try to settle the PCP and take on a bank loan instead at a vastly lower rate
Change the car.
Whilst its an option, i think option 3 would be a bad idea - you've a big loss on the car (hes only a year in), negative equity, and then you're in to the realms of buying another car in to which hes going to immediately be in negative equity again, etc.

I think any saving would be lost in the transition.

I'd be doing (b) - as per the figures i provided above.

Montybaber

88 posts

64 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Roger Irrelevant said:
Ah yes, when you put it like that it makes perfect sense to spend almost £13,000 hiring a £9,500 car for four years, after which you have nothing (unless you pay a further £3,000). It may have served its purpose but Jesus I hope the OP is a bit more savvy next time round.
I didn't say it made perfect sense at all

I suspect the OP will take the advice offered on here and hop in a time machine to negotiate the APR

Buying/owning cars costs money, as long as people realise that what business is it to anyone else?

Begall

138 posts

93 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Jaetten said:
I don't have paperwork to hand, but interest is accrued and not front loaded. My settlement figure is £9430.26 saving £2904.25 on interest.

The estimated car resale value is £8250 - £8500. At a guess, and a wild guess that is, I would get 5-6k at most selling back to dealer and talking with the PCP company on paying the remainder, or bank loan etc on lower interest and paying back in full.
Wow, after a year of payments on a £9,500 car you can settle it for £9,439.26!! A full £60.74 of the actual car paid off and roughly £3,060 spent on extras and interest yikes

bad company

18,883 posts

268 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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Begall said:
Wow, after a year of payments on a £9,500 car you can settle it for £9,439.26!! A full £60.74 of the actual car paid off and roughly £3,060 spent on extras and interest yikes
Come on guys, it’s time to lay off. The op knows he didn’t do a great deal. He needs help to move forward.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Begall said:
Wow, after a year of payments on a £9,500 car you can settle it for £9,439.26!! A full £60.74 of the actual car paid off and roughly £3,060 spent on extras and interest yikes
Surely you must be aware there are additional costs associated to early settlement?

Take out HP the interest is loaded into the loan from day 1 so after a year it’s liely to be the same situation then over the next 6 years loan will decrease down to zero.

MOBB

3,655 posts

129 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Get the cheapest bank loan you can find, Settle the pcp

Damage limitation

Monkeylegend

26,665 posts

233 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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The upside is OP has a Zafira.

Deep Thought

36,012 posts

199 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Monkeylegend said:
The upside is OP has a Zafira.
Which suits his needs perfectly.

Monkeylegend

26,665 posts

233 months

Wednesday 6th February 2019
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Deep Thought said:
Monkeylegend said:
The upside is OP has a Zafira.
Which suits his needs perfectly.
yes