Replacing honda accord tourer
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Fastdruid said:
I really like the looks of the newer Mazda 6, particularly on the estate...
Only downside is that it's pretty slow with no decent engines and from having a mid-2000's Mazda previously, they rust *really* badly, have very expensive parts and aren't as reliable as you'd want.
I'd have another one if I was planning on getting a relatively "new" one and selling it before it got too old, wouldn't get an older one. Well except I wouldn't as they're too slow but you know what I mean.
You don't want to have to change your forum name to slowdruid! Only downside is that it's pretty slow with no decent engines and from having a mid-2000's Mazda previously, they rust *really* badly, have very expensive parts and aren't as reliable as you'd want.
I'd have another one if I was planning on getting a relatively "new" one and selling it before it got too old, wouldn't get an older one. Well except I wouldn't as they're too slow but you know what I mean.
dex101 said:
Fastdruid said:
I really like the looks of the newer Mazda 6, particularly on the estate...
Only downside is that it's pretty slow with no decent engines and from having a mid-2000's Mazda previously, they rust *really* badly, have very expensive parts and aren't as reliable as you'd want.
I'd have another one if I was planning on getting a relatively "new" one and selling it before it got too old, wouldn't get an older one. Well except I wouldn't as they're too slow but you know what I mean.
You don't want to have to change your forum name to slowdruid! Only downside is that it's pretty slow with no decent engines and from having a mid-2000's Mazda previously, they rust *really* badly, have very expensive parts and aren't as reliable as you'd want.
I'd have another one if I was planning on getting a relatively "new" one and selling it before it got too old, wouldn't get an older one. Well except I wouldn't as they're too slow but you know what I mean.
I own a 57 2.2 Cdti tourer now on 155k, apart from 2 £500 bills in additional to normal servicing it been great (EX). You can get an under counter white goods in the boot seats up, virtually anything else with all the seats flat and it will do 50mpg at 70mph.
Also looked at the latest tourer, drove ok fussy dash and small boot (then again isn’t everything). Mazda 6 boot is tiny. And like the other Honda owners cannot really being myself to by Ford or VW. Did consider Skoda but heard a few horrid stories.
Unfortunately that leaves a late 2.2 or 1.6 CRV.
Other option could be 528i estate or a E350/500 estate. Looked at a CLS Sportback thing, again tiny boot for the volume in the spec.
Also looked at the latest tourer, drove ok fussy dash and small boot (then again isn’t everything). Mazda 6 boot is tiny. And like the other Honda owners cannot really being myself to by Ford or VW. Did consider Skoda but heard a few horrid stories.
Unfortunately that leaves a late 2.2 or 1.6 CRV.
Other option could be 528i estate or a E350/500 estate. Looked at a CLS Sportback thing, again tiny boot for the volume in the spec.
Fastdruid said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Fastdruid said:
No. It's Powersts or nothing. It's one of the reasons I'll never have another Mondeo.
The 2.5T is far better than the 2.0T (in every way except on fuel) but unfortunately no newer than 2010.
Would you buy a DSG VAG car? The 2.5T is far better than the 2.0T (in every way except on fuel) but unfortunately no newer than 2010.
stevemcs said:
Fastdruid said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Fastdruid said:
No. It's Powersts or nothing. It's one of the reasons I'll never have another Mondeo.
The 2.5T is far better than the 2.0T (in every way except on fuel) but unfortunately no newer than 2010.
Would you buy a DSG VAG car? The 2.5T is far better than the 2.0T (in every way except on fuel) but unfortunately no newer than 2010.
Ignoring that I don't "like" them, the very very worst behaviour I found (to be fair this was with a Focus with a powerst not a VAG DSG) was low speed up hill manoeuvring. With a manual you can inch, with the powerst it was nothing, nothing, nothing...accelerate forwards far too fast and hit the brakes before you crash into the object you were trying to inch up to.
I had a 2004 Accord Tourer and really liked it. I’ve never really successfully replaced it. I swapped it for a 2004 5 series Tourer which was heavy and thirsty. Then I had a Legacy 2.5 GX which was good, but thirsty. Several coupes, hatchbacks and a 4x4 later I’ve got a 1.6 petrol turbo Megane estate. I love it! But it’s not an Accord rival and it’s not in your budget.
My suggestion, if you can find one, is a late petrol turbo Saab 9-5.
My suggestion, if you can find one, is a late petrol turbo Saab 9-5.
Freshly imported V70R
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLVO-V70-R-ESTATE-2-5-...RsAAOSwtCtfDcvn
Challenging interior colour
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLVO-V70-R-ESTATE-2-5-...RsAAOSwtCtfDcvn
Challenging interior colour
Edited by GreatGranny on Thursday 24th September 10:22
The 2.2TDCI gets a conventional auto, the reviews of the 2.0T says it gets the powersts
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/mondeo/17838/fo...
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/mondeo/17838/fo...
catman said:
Hi, yes I've seen that, but it's contradicted by Ford websites and auto data sites. It could make a difference to potential buyers.
Link?EDIT: Or are you talking about the Mk5? Fairly sure they dropped the powerst for the 2.0 SCTi Ecoboost in the Mk5 in 2015.
Edited by Fastdruid on Friday 9th October 00:32
Kia ceed sportwagon?
7.5k should see you into a 5 year old car on sub 30k miles.
Pretty humdrum, but it'll be cheap to run, easy to fix, reliable, anonymous in a work car park, your wife would drive it etc etc.
Do you want to tick the boxes or find something fun? I'm in a skoda superb because I have 2 kids a labrador and no particular aversion to VAG.
It has been faultless now for 4 years. I'm sad enough to monitor my mileage and I've done 46.7mpg over 51k miles. More room in the back than any other estate. Nicer interior than the mazda 6 for sure. Boot swallows all kinds of things my wife's kuga can't. More space across the back seats making isofix seatbelts easier to do up (eldest is now into a booster and it is a pain in the arse reaching across to do it up in the kuga)
Factor in depreciation and running costs the car owes me £137.22 / month since I bought it and I just can't imagine how my family and I could have been more comfortable and safer for less money all that time.
It is now 8 years old and I can't think what could possibly replace it to do the same job better - other than a newer one with a nicer stereo!
But is it fun? NNOOOOO. Categorically not. But I respect the hell out of it for just being amazingly good at what it was designed to do. People and stuff in comfort, done. No fuss, no attention, just easy.
But I want a classic mini cooper to ruin me financially and emotionally to make up for all that easy, dull driving 😄
7.5k should see you into a 5 year old car on sub 30k miles.
Pretty humdrum, but it'll be cheap to run, easy to fix, reliable, anonymous in a work car park, your wife would drive it etc etc.
Do you want to tick the boxes or find something fun? I'm in a skoda superb because I have 2 kids a labrador and no particular aversion to VAG.
It has been faultless now for 4 years. I'm sad enough to monitor my mileage and I've done 46.7mpg over 51k miles. More room in the back than any other estate. Nicer interior than the mazda 6 for sure. Boot swallows all kinds of things my wife's kuga can't. More space across the back seats making isofix seatbelts easier to do up (eldest is now into a booster and it is a pain in the arse reaching across to do it up in the kuga)
Factor in depreciation and running costs the car owes me £137.22 / month since I bought it and I just can't imagine how my family and I could have been more comfortable and safer for less money all that time.
It is now 8 years old and I can't think what could possibly replace it to do the same job better - other than a newer one with a nicer stereo!
But is it fun? NNOOOOO. Categorically not. But I respect the hell out of it for just being amazingly good at what it was designed to do. People and stuff in comfort, done. No fuss, no attention, just easy.
But I want a classic mini cooper to ruin me financially and emotionally to make up for all that easy, dull driving 😄
Hard to beat another Accord, for the money. They’re cheap for what they offer. If Toyota offered a comparable car, that would be what to look for, but I’m assuming you prefer an estate.
Subaru’s aren’t as well engineered as Honda’s.
Whatever you decide, stick to Japanese and you won’t risk the inherent problems that can arise with higher mileage German cars, worse would be Italian or French. Honda’s won’t make you need to buy an OBD code reader to keep in the car in case the dash flashes an error code and goes into limp mode.::.
Subaru’s aren’t as well engineered as Honda’s.
Whatever you decide, stick to Japanese and you won’t risk the inherent problems that can arise with higher mileage German cars, worse would be Italian or French. Honda’s won’t make you need to buy an OBD code reader to keep in the car in case the dash flashes an error code and goes into limp mode.::.
Fastdruid said:
Link?
EDIT: Or are you talking about the Mk5? Fairly sure they dropped the powerst for the 2.0 SCTi Ecoboost in the Mk5 in 2015.
Yes, I was speaking about the Mk5, but many of the road tests after that year were still saying that it had a Powershift gearbox. That could put a lot of potential buyers off, given its known problems. (That and the fuel consumption!)EDIT: Or are you talking about the Mk5? Fairly sure they dropped the powerst for the 2.0 SCTi Ecoboost in the Mk5 in 2015.
Edited by Fastdruid on Friday 9th October 00:32
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