Are XKR’s so unloved that there have been no bids at all?
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Stunning car! Thing of beauty.
I think at £18-20K you’re in brave pill territory on an aging Jaguar which has a similar reputation to Maserati almost. Realistically probably needs to be half the price.
Definitely a niche market and for every 1 person like myself who loves it I’d say you’d easily find another 99 who think not a chance. Think everything about it would be a heart decision. Personally I’m not for changing and would want a facelifted model just.
I also don’t think PH is the audience for that type of car as actual enthusiast numbers seem to have dwindled which is who you need for this type of car.
I think at £18-20K you’re in brave pill territory on an aging Jaguar which has a similar reputation to Maserati almost. Realistically probably needs to be half the price.
Definitely a niche market and for every 1 person like myself who loves it I’d say you’d easily find another 99 who think not a chance. Think everything about it would be a heart decision. Personally I’m not for changing and would want a facelifted model just.
I also don’t think PH is the audience for that type of car as actual enthusiast numbers seem to have dwindled which is who you need for this type of car.
volvos60s60 said:
Under comments, it's not had the usual weak areas addressed judging by the vendor response to my questions.
Owner goes on to state he's 'Been a member of JDC, JOC and XKCC for nearly nine years'. I see no trace of it being advertised elsewhere. Wonder if the vendor even tried to sell it within the clubs he belongs to?
It is concerning that it's gone straight into an online auction where the vendor incurs no sellers fees or suffers any comeback - all the risk, including all auction fees, is on the winning bidder.......
Exactly.Owner goes on to state he's 'Been a member of JDC, JOC and XKCC for nearly nine years'. I see no trace of it being advertised elsewhere. Wonder if the vendor even tried to sell it within the clubs he belongs to?
It is concerning that it's gone straight into an online auction where the vendor incurs no sellers fees or suffers any comeback - all the risk, including all auction fees, is on the winning bidder.......
Edited by volvos60s60 on Thursday 21st September 13:33
A good forum/community car should sell easily for “what it’s worth” via those channels.
If it’s gone straight here it’s obviously someone chancing a buyer with more money than sense, or it’s got problems.
As I keep saying, this is just “no time wasters” flipped around.
A buyer is basically taking on all risks and no benefits while the seller hides their reserve.
If I wanted one I’d be on the owners forum classifieds and make a cheeky offer knowing what maximum price I’m likely to pay, rather than wasting time looking at a car that’s most likely dodgy or has a dreaming owner.
Funk said:
Just went and read the question/answer on the auction page and I have to say that the tone of response from the seller would put me off immediately.
Is 'Find a better one," an instruction/advice?
How do people survive with such rubbish written language skills?Is 'Find a better one," an instruction/advice?
I agree it’s a bit iffy to respond in such a way.
I’ve had cars with common faults, had issues, and sorted them all.
And had cars with common faults and not had any issues with them, and been fine.
But to pretend they don’t exist is a bit daft if you’re on the owners forums.
Mr Whippy said:
Funk said:
Just went and read the question/answer on the auction page and I have to say that the tone of response from the seller would put me off immediately.
Is 'Find a better one," an instruction/advice?
How do people survive with such rubbish written language skills?Is 'Find a better one," an instruction/advice?
I agree it’s a bit iffy to respond in such a way.
I’ve had cars with common faults, had issues, and sorted them all.
And had cars with common faults and not had any issues with them, and been fine.
But to pretend they don’t exist is a bit daft if you’re on the owners forums.
Edited by Funk on Thursday 21st September 17:47
Hitch said:
The weekend car market is taking a tanking due to mortgage rate change. I've been looking recently and a number of sellers are talking about covering the cost of their mortgage increase.
COVID money drove prices up, cost of living driving prices down.
I.sold my Porsche Boxster in April, nothing flash, a 986 2.7 and I sold via Motorway for £5500. COVID money drove prices up, cost of living driving prices down.
A dealer from Wales bought it and put it up at around £7500, checked today out of interest and they still have it and it's now advertised at 5k.
The weekend car market is definately slipping but I think they also shot themselves in the foot pricing it too high in the summer.
Funk said:
Just went and read the question/answer on the auction page and I have to say that the tone of response from the seller would put me off immediately.
Is 'Find a better one," an instruction/advice?
Must have read it somewhere and thought it sounds good. Is 'Find a better one," an instruction/advice?
It applies to 50 mile, 40 year old classics where they made a 100 of them.
Not a 50000 mile Jaguar that was produced in the 1000's.
Funk said:
Just went and read the question/answer on the auction page and I have to say that the tone of response from the seller would put me off immediately.
Is 'Find a better one," an instruction/advice?
He has just bought a £90k Porsche don’t you know!Is 'Find a better one," an instruction/advice?
A completely irrelevant snippet of information for which the reader is supposed to be both humbled and impressed.
OverSteery said:
I've never bothered to look at the the PH auctions.
Just looked. Am I missing something? Are there really only 5 auctions and there is no clues to where in the country the car is located?
I'm out!
Right at the end of the description it does say "This seller is located in Tamworth, Staffordshire." Agree that location should be way more prominent but I guess they think it would result in even fewer bids, perhaps?Just looked. Am I missing something? Are there really only 5 auctions and there is no clues to where in the country the car is located?
I'm out!
LimaDelta said:
As someone who has at times quite fancied an XK/XKR this one is the wrong colour. I think they are far better in a dark blue, with the blue/grey or cream interior. Silver & black is for Audis, not Jaguars.
I'd normally agree, but apparently liquid silver was Ian Callum's preferred colour and it does allow you to see the delicate and subtle surfacing and creases that are lost in a darker or more boldly coloured car. The wet road grey is the worst of both worlds though, drab and doesn't show the detail.Agree that a black with silver plastic interior is for an Audi A4, not a proper car.
Lots and lots and lots of old boys running Jaguars are like the seller, very pompous and they think it's some sort of bespoke gentleman's carriage of great repute, if you think buying from them is painful you should try selling to them. It is enough to put you off though, he really was a bit of a bellend on the thread.
The best thing about these cars is they were built to mainstream car durability standards but have 500bhp. They're tough, cheap to service, parts are reasonable and they can stand a reasonable amount of both neglect and abuse. I can't think of anything with this level of performance with less mechanical vices, let alone with such a low cost of entry.
I'll also add, if you haven't driven one, that the way they deliver their power is not even remotely like other 500bhp+ cars with turbos, they have instant throttle response and are hilariously aggressive, nothing at all like the mush and lag of a turbo. They feel far stronger than 500bhp, and I have a feeling on 2023 performance tyres they could easily exceed their book 0-62 times, they're so traction limited.
There are tales of timing chain woe but they're overstated, and it'll almost certainly give you plenty of warning before they outright let go. Cooling system is a pain in the arse like every other modern car, but aside from that they're really no bother to run. I can get 28mpg tank averages if it's all boring driving too.
If you were considering one now is a great time to go for it.
Edited by GeniusOfLove on Thursday 21st September 22:08
GeniusOfLove said:
I'll also add, if you haven't driven one, that the way they deliver their power is not even remotely like other 500bhp+ cars with turbos, they have instant throttle response and are hilariously aggressive, nothing at all like the mush and lag of a turbo. They feel far stronger than 500bhp, and I have a feeling on 2023 performance tyres they could easily exceed their book 0-62 times, they're so traction limited.
I haven't driven one, but have been wanting to add a V8 to my "collection", preferably an 840Ci or a 928. But I have driven a friend's 2016 XJR a couple of times and that wave of torque could better be described as a tsunami. Power at any engine speed and always willing to go. My other cars all need a some revs before they get going, and I often think how nice it would be to have that kind of torque on tap. I wonder whether the XKR is much different than the XJR? I'm definitely a coupe kind of person rather than a 4-door, since I'm single with no kids.But I still want to know if it really needs servicing every year. I do my own servicing on cars I have no intention of selling, but still.
LunarOne said:
Why has it been serviced every year even with such low miles. Are they really so finicky that they need annual attention regardless of miles?
Pretty much every car ever made in recent decades required servicing every 1 year or ~12k miles (e.g. manufacturers recommended interval), until very recently with the introduction of servicing every 2 years or ~24k miles. But yes if you do low miles then you can probably service your XKR every 2 years if you wish.Gassing Station | Car Buying | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff