I think I ballsed up with my car purchase

I think I ballsed up with my car purchase

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Brett748

920 posts

168 months

Friday 12th January
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This is a general theme for all cars bought in the last 12 months. They were all subject to the Covid price boom. I bet your car was worth less than £14.5k in June 2020 for example.

I almost traded by W204 C63 for an M2 in summer but decided I fancied another year of V8 life. The M2shave come down £5k since but trade values of my C63 have dropped about £3k too so its all relative.

If you like the ST keep it, if not, I'm sure the delta between the FST and RS300 isn't much different to it was in September.

Bobupndown

1,882 posts

45 months

Friday 12th January
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Paid £19k for a Landrover approved used 4 year old 17000 mile Freelander 2, 6 years ago. Now on 115000 miles. No idea what it's worth, £6k maybe? Will be driving it for a few more years yet. Even if it was worth absolutely nothing right now it's only cost me £3k ish per year. I believe long term ownership is the best value.

Roger Irrelevant

2,975 posts

115 months

Friday 12th January
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Wacky Racer said:
If it's a decent car, hang on to it a few years and that will even things out.
This. For all the talk of WBAC vs Motorway vs whoever-else-will-buy-a-car-off-you, and notwithstanding that PH is full of people for who the normal laws of depreciation apparently don't apply, chopping and changing cars often has always been a good way to lose money. OK the OP has been unfortunate in buying his car at a time when used cars (and particularly trade-in values), have been dropping, but that's a risk you leave yourself open to if you have to have the latest greatest thing every six months. I bought our Yaris runabout from a Toyota main dealer five years ago. If I'd tried to sell it soon after I don't doubt it could have lost 50% of what I paid, which wouldn't have been pleasant but which wouldn't have been a surprise either. Five years and 40000-odd miles later, though, I don't care if it's now worth nothing.

SDK

930 posts

255 months

Friday 12th January
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A 45% drop in 4 months.... and it's not an EV,, who knew bounce

panholio

1,080 posts

150 months

Friday 12th January
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Evanivitch said:
WBAC is a very complex algorithm. The fact you're looking to sell after a short ownership makes them think there's opportunity to get a quick and cheap deal.
Interesting that. I often WBAC my cars just out of interest and plot the data - I can support this - first 6 months of ownership offers are comically low.

Evanivitch

20,465 posts

124 months

Friday 12th January
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panholio said:
Interesting that. I often WBAC my cars just out of interest and plot the data - I can support this - first 6 months of ownership offers are comically low.
They'll also be tracking how many enquiries you do against that plate...

McLarenLad

Original Poster:

101 posts

13 months

Friday 12th January
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Makes this topic all the more interesting to find that the local shop owner had decided to 'park' his van in the rear of my car this morning.
fking furious.

Guy speaks terrible English too and just said "Sometime automatic roll". Didn't even move the fking thing. Just stared at it.

No damage as far as I can see. Clips seem to have come loose on one side. They don't seem to want to go back in place easy though...

McLarenLad

Original Poster:

101 posts

13 months

Friday 12th January
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So much for £8k eh?!

LastPoster

2,449 posts

185 months

Friday 12th January
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I have WBAC'd the car I bought last Feb. £20k or almost 40% drop!

Don't care, bought it because I have wanted one for 30+ years

It's also not a WBAC target market car either

aland75

172 posts

79 months

Friday 12th January
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LastPoster said:
Don't care, bought it because I have wanted one for 30+ years
What is it?

Sheepshanks

33,085 posts

121 months

Friday 12th January
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Roger Irrelevant said:
This. For all the talk of WBAC vs Motorway vs whoever-else-will-buy-a-car-off-you, and notwithstanding that PH is full of people for who the normal laws of depreciation apparently don't apply, chopping and changing cars often has always been a good way to lose money. OK the OP has been unfortunate in buying his car at a time when used cars (and particularly trade-in values), have been dropping, but that's a risk you leave yourself open to if you have to have the latest greatest thing every six months. I bought our Yaris runabout from a Toyota main dealer five years ago. If I'd tried to sell it soon after I don't doubt it could have lost 50% of what I paid, which wouldn't have been pleasant but which wouldn't have been a surprise either. Five years and 40000-odd miles later, though, I don't care if it's now worth nothing.
With that timing it could well be worth more than you paid for it!

stanlow45

304 posts

8 months

Friday 12th January
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Always worth plugging the plate into WBAC and HPI before a purchase to see how much the dealer is fleecing you by. They are trying it on big time post covid with ridiculous RRPs massively overinflated over trade prices to improve their margin. Some cars are priced up at staggeringly inflated premiums but thankfully the market is changing last six months as the interest rate changes start to bite. I was offered an F type last year for sixty grand but saw the market falling and thankfully held off on the purchase. That same car is now priced at £40k, a twenty grand loss in six months which is mental. Of course other "trade" views will always try to defend the excessive prices and tell you "it's the new normal" but it's pretty clear that's horsest and which way the market is really headed.


Honourable Dead Snark

435 posts

21 months

Friday 12th January
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Uncannily similar to what I noticed after getting a GT86. Based on condition and mileage and seeing what else was available on Autotrader etc WBAC was at least a good 4/5 thousand off what I would expect

CrippsCorner

2,851 posts

183 months

Friday 12th January
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Don't sell it, problem solved!

Dingu

3,905 posts

32 months

Friday 12th January
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Are people still genuinely taking WBAC valuation and comparing it to purchase prices from trade or privately?! As if it’s some directly comparable measure of depreciation

LastPoster

2,449 posts

185 months

Friday 12th January
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aland75 said:
LastPoster said:
Don't care, bought it because I have wanted one for 30+ years
What is it?
It's a 911. Not a 30yo one (my post might have been a bit confusing in that respect)

anonymous-user

56 months

Friday 12th January
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CrippsCorner said:
Don't sell it, problem solved!
This, buying a car retail and then getting bored of it and trading it in against another retail car has always been a fantastic way to set fire to money.

cayman-black

12,710 posts

218 months

Friday 12th January
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valiant said:
Don't rely on WBAC. There algorithms are designed solely for themselves and if they have too many STs in their system they will only offer derisory offers until they get rid and stock levels of STs ease off.

Use an amalgam of a few car valuation sites and go from there.
This, Right now they may not want that car a bid you in the balls all cars are worth more than what they say, ridiculous thinking they are the gods of values.

Pistom

5,011 posts

161 months

Friday 12th January
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Back to the poor OP who feels they've ballsed up, as long as they're happy with the car, my advice is not to worry about it.

If they're not happy with the car, still don't worry.

Easy to say but there's worse things that can happen.

ZX10R NIN

27,755 posts

127 months

Friday 12th January
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McLarenLad said:
So I bought a Focus ST back in September.

2016, 57k miles, FSH. All for £14.5k. I knew prices were high, but was keen on ditching my diesel, which wasn't really serving a purpose any more. Plus, you know, the 'itch' got me.

So I went 50% down on a finance deal. It's as high as I'll go with finance.

I've put 1,000 miles since buying and out of curiosity, did a WBAC check and had a look at AutoTrader values.

£8k

Eight. Sodding. Grand.

Granted, I can see prices are slipping somewhat. Similar cars, 10k less mileage in some cases, are around £1-£1.5k cheaper. All in the space of four months. But I was mortified. Mainly because at this rate, I'm in danger of slipping into negative equity with the damned thing. Which has prompted me to chuck more cash into it quicker, which albeit is never a bad thing, but just an unforeseen cost.

And the mere reason for looking at its value was........Those RS 300 Trophy's are looking all the more tasty to me!
Have you actually looked at the prices, I say this because FSH ST-2/3 from a main/good Indy dealer are still 12.5k-14k