Replacement for a Z4

Replacement for a Z4

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coldel

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Monday 3rd April 2023
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Yep I just looked out the window yesterday and it was there saying to me, drive me!
With the sponges out the noise box it just revs up so well and the noise is driving

I do wonder what the boxer 6 on the Porsche would be like though cloud9

cerb4.5lee

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Monday 3rd April 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
jm8403 said:
TameRacingDriver said:
jm8403 said:
I wish I felt the same about mine. I like it but far from love, it's a nice engine. I don't think I have ever taken it for a blat.
Maybe not taking it out for a blat is part of the problem?
Could be...
I drive it hard when I am going places but never just for the sake of driving...
To be fair though if you aren't tempted to take it out for a hoon it probably is the wrong car. I felt the same way about my e46 but I did find the z4c more interesting than that.
I'd be looking at getting something else if I was in jm8403's position as well. If your car doesn't urge you to drive it...then it is the wrong car I agree.

coldel

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Monday 3rd April 2023
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Oooo just realised that if you have been on PH for more than ten years an advert here is free!
Just posted it up!

cerb4.5lee

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Monday 3rd April 2023
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MDUBZ

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101 months

Monday 3rd April 2023
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coldel said:
Yep I just looked out the window yesterday and it was there saying to me, drive me!
With the sponges out the noise box it just revs up so well and the noise is driving

I do wonder what the boxer 6 on the Porsche would be like though cloud9
Went out for a very spirited hoon with a vx220 turbo and a Porsche boxster (non s) a few years ago: I have a fairly relaxed view on speeding ordinarily and even I needed to issue a bking: 50 limits and above are fair game but 30’s and 40s through villages are to be observed. The vx disappeared on the flat but I was never sure which hedge they were going to end up in at speeds above 70 when things got bumpy (but that was down to a track set up I think). The Porsche sounded fantastic but speed wise was similar to the bmw. I’d be tempted to go boxster s if I wanted a change up into a Porsche..

I’m 8 years in and other than a suspension refresh the BMW has cost me very little in maintenance or depreciation and still puts a smile on my face; it’s been a solid purchase really. I think I’d have to sell and spend at least another 10-15k to get much in the way of any tangible feeling of an upgrade and there are too many other things requiring funds at the moment..

coldel

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Monday 3rd April 2023
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MDUBZ said:
Went out for a very spirited hoon with a vx220 turbo and a Porsche boxster (non s) a few years ago: I have a fairly relaxed view on speeding ordinarily and even I needed to issue a bking: 50 limits and above are fair game but 30’s and 40s through villages are to be observed. The vx disappeared on the flat but I was never sure which hedge they were going to end up in at speeds above 70 when things got bumpy (but that was down to a track set up I think). The Porsche sounded fantastic but speed wise was similar to the bmw. I’d be tempted to go boxster s if I wanted a change up into a Porsche..

I’m 8 years in and other than a suspension refresh the BMW has cost me very little in maintenance or depreciation and still puts a smile on my face; it’s been a solid purchase really. I think I’d have to sell and spend at least another 10-15k to get much in the way of any tangible feeling of an upgrade and there are too many other things requiring funds at the moment..
Yes a mildly tuned VX220T is a missile, my old one had a stage 1 taking it to around 225bhp with a fast road set up - it felt fine and I took it on the NC500. Very planted and could eat up the road.

I have been looking at 3.2 987 Boxsters, appears ones after April 2005 had a reinforced IMS and bore score is only an issue on the 3.4 engines. So not as scary as I originally thought. But agreed the N52 in the Z4 is an amazing piece of engineering.

coldel

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Thursday 6th April 2023
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Deposit taken!

cerb4.5lee

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Thursday 6th April 2023
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Nice one! Changes on the horizon then! biggrin

coldel

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Thursday 6th April 2023
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But what though biglaugh

Taking my time on the next buy...

TameRacingDriver

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273 months

Thursday 6th April 2023
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Good position to be in. No rush and looks like you're selling the Z4 and getting the cash before getting anything new which is always a good thing I reckon smile

Very happy with the Boxster, just saying wink

coldel

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Friday 7th April 2023
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Yes he is collecting today. He saw the ad on PH so might be a member on here!

I must admit I am looking at Boxsters...my head goes 'hey they are fine the chances of them going tits up are pretty low' then another part of my brain goes 'they are doomed and will cost you a fortune!'

TameRacingDriver

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Friday 7th April 2023
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coldel

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Friday 7th April 2023
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Can get a 3.2S for about 9k around 90k miles...

TameRacingDriver

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Friday 7th April 2023
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coldel said:
Can get a 3.2S for about 9k around 90k miles...
Just run in then.

If I had a little more money to spend, I may have also considered a 987 (I assume this is what you're looking at), but so far the 986 is proving to be a satisfying steed. I don't think the 987 3.2 is anymore prone to issues than the 986, whereas the early 3.4s were the ones that suffered with potential bore scoring.

If I could stretch for a 987 base Cayman 2.7 with standard 17s and suspension for £10k or under, that would also be a mighty tempting proposition too for me, but I wouldn't pay too much for one over a Boxster as I don't reckon they'd offer all that much in driving experience over a Boxster for me, and you might actually prefer being able to drop the roof.

coldel

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Friday 7th April 2023
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I am definitely thinking roof off motoring as a big want for the next car.
The coupe Z4 was stiff and great dynamically but I do fancy having some open air fun next!

TameRacingDriver

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273 months

Friday 7th April 2023
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coldel said:
I am definitely thinking roof off motoring as a big want for the next car.
The coupe Z4 was stiff and great dynamically but I do fancy having some open air fun next!
To be fair, I've never found the stiffness thing to be a problem on any convertible I've had. Maybe I'm just not a good enough driver to notice it.

The open air thing can really open another dimension of fun though, especially with a decent engine and exhaust smile

cerb4.5lee

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181 months

Saturday 8th April 2023
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TameRacingDriver said:
coldel said:
I am definitely thinking roof off motoring as a big want for the next car.
The coupe Z4 was stiff and great dynamically but I do fancy having some open air fun next!
To be fair, I've never found the stiffness thing to be a problem on any convertible I've had. Maybe I'm just not a good enough driver to notice it.

The open air thing can really open another dimension of fun though, especially with a decent engine and exhaust smile
Both the Z4M/370Z were/are a bit wobbly for me(and you can always feel the scuttle shake), and the E93 M3 that I've also driven a few times was as well. It isn't enough to put me off buying them though, and the big reasons for a convertible are the noise/open air thing as you mention. thumbup

coldel

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Saturday 8th April 2023
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First decent weekend of good weather this year and...

coldel

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Saturday 8th April 2023
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Oooo so E89 Z4 18i with a remap makes around 280hp....thats not bad!

Could be one for the list!

cerb4.5lee

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Saturday 8th April 2023
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I've personally always been a really big fan of the the E89. I love the way they look and the interior was a big improvement over the E85 I thought. They are definitely a bucket list car for me.