£4k Boxster S. What could possibly go wrong...

[LordHaveMurci]

TTwiggy said:

lord trumpton said:

Could be a real wallet hoover - RMS and IMS seal are two forgone conclusions

Not this again!

RMS isn't an issue, and IMS is far from a 'forgone conclusion'.

Exactly. It's these posters that repeat the crap they've read that blows these non issues up right out of proportion

[V8RX7]

LordHaveMurci said:

TTwiggy said:

lord trumpton said:

Could be a real wallet hoover - RMS and IMS seal are two forgone conclusions

Not this again!

RMS isn't an issue, and IMS is far from a 'forgone conclusion'.

Exactly. It's these posters that repeat the crap they've read that blows these non issues up right out of proportion

Except my friend had repeated RMS issues on his GT3 - you know the engine that "isn't affected"



It was fixed IIRC 3x by Porsche under the extended warranty, in the end I think they changed the crank.

[LordHaveMurci]

V8RX7 said:

LordHaveMurci said:

TTwiggy said:

lord trumpton said:

Could be a real wallet hoover - RMS and IMS seal are two forgone conclusions

Not this again!

RMS isn't an issue, and IMS is far from a 'forgone conclusion'.

Exactly. It's these posters that repeat the crap they've read that blows these non issues up right out of proportion

Except my friend had repeated RMS issues on his GT3 - you know the engine that "isn't affected"



It was fixed IIRC 3x by Porsche under the extended warranty, in the end I think they changed the crank.

But the Mezger NEVER gives any issues at all, EVER (so says the internet). The M96 on the other hand, every single one will fail spectacularly.

Thought RMS was a minor issue, if my car was under warranty I'd get it sorted though!

[Shnozz]

LordHaveMurci said:

TTwiggy said:

lord trumpton said:

Could be a real wallet hoover - RMS and IMS seal are two forgone conclusions

Not this again!

RMS isn't an issue, and IMS is far from a 'forgone conclusion'.

Exactly. It's these posters that repeat the crap they've read that blows these non issues up right out of proportion

I haven't made reference to it in this thread but I must say it seems more prevalent than internet fable.

Of my mates who have owned these cars its 2 - 1 for those who have suffered IMS failure. If I include my 2 years with a 986S, I am pleased to advise its 2 - 2. If I include Steve (Raceboy below), its 3 - 2 to the kabooooom crowd.

If I include the chap I bought my Evora from (who I advised against getting a cheap Boxster for that very reason), its 4 - 2 to the explosive brigade. His went 3 weeks after buying. However, in his case he bought a £5k bargain bucket Porker and recovered about £3k on ebay for scrap/repair so hence my suggestion on this thread that even if the worse happens, you won't lose your undies. Back when I owned my 986S it was worth £15k - £20k and so not peanuts but not enough to warrant spending £10k on a rebuild.

Risking a couple of grand for bargain Porkership doesn't seem a bad gamble but I would be loathe to spend £15k - £20k again on that risk, internet fable or otherwise. I would either go with the Hartech plan or just add the £10k that you ideally need in reserve and look for a later car without the issues.

[lord trumpton]

LordHaveMurci said:

TTwiggy said:

lord trumpton said:

Could be a real wallet hoover - RMS and IMS seal are two forgone conclusions

Not this again!

RMS isn't an issue, and IMS is far from a 'forgone conclusion'.

Exactly. It's these posters that repeat the crap they've read that blows these non issues up right out of proportion

Well this poster has suffered both - IMS on a 2.7 boxster; knocked its balls off

Also a C4S (996) developed an innocent drip from near the bellhousing - guess what; RMS. I paid to have it fixed plus new clutch and the leaking rocker cover gaskets and got rid.

Edited by lord trumpton on Tuesday 20th September 21:41

[LordHaveMurci]

lord trumpton said:

Well this poster has suffered both - IMS on a 2.7 boxster; knocked its balls off

Also a C4S (996) developed an innocent drip from near the bellhousing - guess what; RMS. I paid to have it fixed plus new clutch and the leaking rocker cover gaskets and got rid.

Edited by lord trumpton on Tuesday 20th September 21:41

Nobody is denying either issue exists but RMS is a minor issue that is usually rectified when a clutch change is done.

IMS figures are available from the US class action & they are nowhere near 50%!

[fivepointnine]

I had an '02 S 5 years ago. The RMS was leaking and replaced at 50k miles along with the clutch. Water pump was weeping at that mileage and replaced also. I had the LN IMS installed at 62k miles and the shop that did the work said my IMS bearing was caught just in time.

[snotrag]

I've also replaced the rear main seal for weeping on those other famously unreliable cars, a Mazda MX5 and a Toyota MR2...

[SpeckledJim]

V8RX7 said:

Impasse said:

Is this the legendary Porsche build quality that gets trotted out every so often?

As with VW & Merc - their reputation was gained on their older cars.

Most of them cut corners by the mid / late 90's

Equally the Japanese cars aren't as reliable as they were either.

"It is engineered like a VW" used to be one of the reasons to buy a Porsche.

Now it is one of the reasons not to.

[WJNB]

Be sure you're not captivated by the brand & all you imagine it stands for.
Owning a Porsche does not automatically elevate you to another level or enhance your social status & credibility.
Buy at the poverty end of the market & you could look a bit desperate.

[Ozzie Osmond]

You're right. I'm absolutely desperate. After all, who wants to own a nice mid-engine sportscar?

Poverty spec', that's me.

Now then, what's everybody else driving that I'm missing out on??

[Ozzie Osmond]

Aha. Just clicked your profile. No cars shown in garage. So I checked back for topics you started,

WJNB said:

I remember when BMW was a prestige brand & owning one had real cache, buy or be issued with a BMW & you had arrived.

Now BMW's are too common given the move towards small cheap versions such as the reps specials 1 Series, & old BMW bangers litter the council estates & are driven by yobs. The brand has stigma & represents arrogance due to the driving attitudes of owners & dealer employees.

....compared with the chrome blinged tarty new Mercedes.

No chip on the shoulder there at all. No really. None at all.

[Atmospheric]

Sod you lot with your real life experiences.

Another potential second car scratched off the list.

[egor110]

WJNB said:

Be sure you're not captivated by the brand & all you imagine it stands for.
Owning a Porsche does not automatically elevate you to another level or enhance your social status & credibility.
Buy at the poverty end of the market & you could look a bit desperate.

Because the boxster was never rated as really nice handling car was it ?

Regardless of the badge.

[Shnozz]

Atmospheric said:

Sod you lot with your real life experiences.

Another potential second car scratched off the list.

Why? At £4k - £5k if she blows then you'll see £3k back on ebay as tow it away for spares. Surely that is worth a gamble for some poverty Pork?

[V8RX7]

WJNB said:

Owning a Porsche does not automatically elevate you to another level or enhance your social status & credibility.

Buy at the poverty end of the market & you could look a bit desperate.

That depends whom you are trying to impress - I bought a 944 Turbo many years ago because - as with the Boxster - it was a good car and for the price, it was the best option.

I was an Usher at a wedding and someone mentioned I was driving a Porsche, all the Bridesmaids got very giddy and wanted to see it - I was a bit embarrassed as it wasn't a £100k car just a nice £8k one and pointed out that they had already walked past it when they came in, however they insisted on sitting in it and taking pics etc

Needless to say, I ended up with one of them.

[LordHaveMurci]

egor110 said:

Because the boxster was never rated as really nice handling car was it ?

Regardless of the badge.

Seriously? Many rate the Boxster as having 'better' handling than a 911.

[egor110]

LordHaveMurci said:

egor110 said:

Because the boxster was never rated as really nice handling car was it ?

Regardless of the badge.

Seriously? Many rate the Boxster as having 'better' handling than a 911.

You misunderstand me.

The other guy was saying people only buy a boxster so they can say they drive a porsche , i was being ironic .

[Ozzie Osmond]

And rather successfully I thought!

Without question I'd have bought mine regardless of what badge was on it (provided there was some reasonable assurance of after-sales support).

[LordHaveMurci]

egor110 said:

You misunderstand me.

The other guy was saying people only buy a boxster so they can say they drive a porsche , i was being ironic .

Unlike me to miss irony! My apologies