Are XKR’s so unloved that there have been no bids at all?

Are XKR’s so unloved that there have been no bids at all?

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CoolHands

18,846 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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How many old duffers are there, that want to buy an aging jag at any price? Not many I wager. No one under 60 would want one.

105.4

4,163 posts

73 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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volvos60s60 said:
Under comments, it's not had the usual weak areas addressed judging by the vendor response to my questions.

Owner goes on to state he's 'Been a member of JDC, JOC and XKCC for nearly nine years'. I see no trace of it being advertised elsewhere. Wonder if the vendor even tried to sell it within the clubs he belongs to?

It is concerning that it's gone straight into an online auction where the vendor incurs no sellers fees or suffers any comeback - all the risk, including all auction fees, is on the winning bidder.......

Edited by volvos60s60 on Thursday 21st September 13:33
I noticed your questions regarding valley pipe replacement and the venders somewhat arsey and condescending reply, basically stating that valley pipe issues are only experienced by plebs who can’t afford to run one of these, and he’s never heard of valley pipe issues on any of the Jag forums…..

scratchchin

I don’t have a 5.0 Jaguar, but I do have a X350 XJ. There must be hundreds of valley pipe threads on the various Jag forums, so common an issue it is.

IMO, you buy the owner as much as you buy the car. And in regards to this guy, I’d be running a mile.

In the words of that Scottish bloke, “I’m out”.



MissChief

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7,154 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Another bid! £4,000 this time but the reserve has still not been met.

EC2

1,485 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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It’s not just a Jaguar problem. No one wants coupes anymore especially those with big engines. I’ve owned Maserati coupes for years and they depreciate to nothing. Currently in Germany in my GranTurismo and everything that goes past me on the autobahn is an XL SUV.

Wills2

23,230 posts

177 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Truckosaurus said:
Wills2 said:
I think it would help if they put estimates/guide pricing in like normal auction houses do...
It says a guide of 18-20k in the description.
I'll get my coat.



visitinglondon

362 posts

191 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Truckosaurus said:
You do know that 'private plate' isn't a thing? The DVLA owns them all.
You do know that it’s described as a “private plate” in the advert, smartarse

Mr Whippy

29,134 posts

243 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Olivera said:
LunarOne said:
Why has it been serviced every year even with such low miles. Are they really so finicky that they need annual attention regardless of miles?
Pretty much every car ever made in recent decades required servicing every 1 year or ~12k miles (e.g. manufacturers recommended interval), until very recently with the introduction of servicing every 2 years or ~24k miles. But yes if you do low miles then you can probably service your XKR every 2 years if you wish.
I’ve been doing annual oil on my BMW despite the supposed 2yr allowance.

If you tie it in with MOT etc all at once it saves the ‘computer’ deciding it wants a random service for one thing half way through the year.
And if you want a tidy SH then faffing with booking into chosen specialist multiple times a year, with the fuel/opportunity cost on time, it’s just not worth it.

Plus it keeps all the breather stuff using fresh oil, minimises any kind of issues if it’s sat, or used a bit more heavily etc.

Plus it also means it gets a decent look over (stuff MOT won’t check), each year.

TREMAiNE

3,929 posts

151 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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The example in the PH auction looks fine. Guide price a bit high but nothing screams that it's a bad car.

The owner, on the other hand, has come across as a right knob.

And maybe it's just me - but surely you should be welcoming viewings if you're trying to sell a car - saying no to this weekend and pushing people to view in the week - which is difficult for a lot of people. The auction doesn't go on for very long... can't you make yoursf free for just a few days?

vikingaero

10,545 posts

171 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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visitinglondon said:
Truckosaurus said:
You do know that 'private plate' isn't a thing? The DVLA owns them all.
You do know that it’s described as a “private plate” in the advert, smartarse
PH - Pedantry Matters.

Much like the people who like to point out the difference between road tax and VED.

Funk

26,354 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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vikingaero said:
visitinglondon said:
Truckosaurus said:
You do know that 'private plate' isn't a thing? The DVLA owns them all.
You do know that it’s described as a “private plate” in the advert, smartarse
PH - Pedantry Matters.

Much like the people who like to point out the difference between road tax and VED.
I like to pick people up on 'jealous' when in fact they mean 'envious'.

SFTWend

877 posts

77 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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TREMAiNE said:
The example in the PH auction looks fine. Guide price a bit high but nothing screams that it's a bad car.

The owner, on the other hand, has come across as a right knob.

And maybe it's just me - but surely you should be welcoming viewings if you're trying to sell a car - saying no to this weekend and pushing people to view in the week - which is difficult for a lot of people. The auction doesn't go on for very long... can't you make yoursf free for just a few days?
You've got until 3pm today to view, otherwise next week (after the auction has finished so no weekend viewings!).

This chap doesn't deserve a good price for his car imo. Rude and obstructive. Would be a shame if he doesn't get 20 towards his 90k porker. Doesn't matter though because he's got lots of money to run these cars.

MikeM6

5,043 posts

104 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Funk said:
I like to pick people up on 'jealous' when in fact they mean 'envious'.
As do I, not sure why I gain satisfaction from it though. I ought really to stop!

SD_1

7,266 posts

160 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Funk said:
Yeah, the appeal to 'authority' didn't sit well, "I've been on ALL these forums/members of these clubs and NEVER known any of those faults..." Hmm.
I caught that as well. I've got the NA version and they are spectacular cars that are actually pretty solid, but every owners page I'm on clearly acknowledges that while they are fairly rare, they can suffer from the issues mentioned.

CoolHands said:
How many old duffers are there, that want to buy an aging jag at any price? Not many I wager. No one under 60 would want one.
Quite a few younger folk own them, they do have quite a following. I don't think the X150 has the "old man" image some others do. That said, I'm 31 and I sought out one with wood trim so what do I know biggrin

Edited by SD_1 on Friday 22 September 11:37

volvos60s60

567 posts

216 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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I just think that all of the concerns over the vendor that I have lead me to think there is something he is perhaps hiding . Namely:

Vendor just joined PH 2 weeks ago to sell his car

I can't see where it's been previously advertised recently

Why is he not selling through the clubs he claims to have been a long standing member of? Does he need to retain credibility within those clubs by not selling on a problem car to a fellow member?

Denial of common & well known issues, which he would be well aware of as a member of 3 Jaguar clubs

Making it hard to view the car at a convenient time

Arrogant, defensive & aggressive email response to reasonable questions. Simply a bad attitude from the vendor does not inspire confidence.

I was going to bid but all in all I feel very uncomfortable that this car could be a whole heap of problems from day one. You have to pay your buyer fees to PH, then go to Tamworth to collect, and tax & insure it to get behind the wheel. So you would be into say £2.5K just to find out if it's any good or not. And if it's a problem car, you are stuck with it & are £2.5K down. Of course it might be all good & you could bag a bargain, but do you feel lucky or not, because that's what it'll come down to

I am happy to buy from an online auction, only when i don't see screaming health warnings on a car

Edited by volvos60s60 on Friday 22 September 11:56

_Hoppers

1,248 posts

67 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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CoolHands said:
How many old duffers are there, that want to buy an aging jag at any price? Not many I wager. No one under 60 would want one.
My mate has got one and he's 49, although he does wear red fking trousers and tweed!

MissChief

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7,154 posts

170 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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We have another bid! £5k now, reserve still not met. I suspect this won't sell, as have a few others under auction since the feature was launched.

paulguitar

24,068 posts

115 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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_Hoppers said:
CoolHands said:
How many old duffers are there, that want to buy an aging jag at any price? Not many I wager. No one under 60 would want one.
My mate has got one and he's 49, although he does wear red fking trousers and tweed!
I had one at 44.

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TameRacingDriver

18,135 posts

274 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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_Hoppers said:
CoolHands said:
How many old duffers are there, that want to buy an aging jag at any price? Not many I wager. No one under 60 would want one.
My mate has got one and he's 49, although he does wear red fking trousers and tweed!
I'm 44 and would happily drive an XKR. I could pretend I was James Bond or something.

Funk

26,354 posts

211 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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I'd actually be interested in one, especially as I've seen you can fit an infotaiment screen that'll give you Android Auto (albeit at the expense of the phyiscal HVAC controls which is a huge negative).

OverSteery

3,618 posts

233 months

Friday 22nd September 2023
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Funk said:
I'd actually be interested in one, especially as I've seen you can fit an infotaiment screen that'll give you Android Auto (albeit at the expense of the phyiscal HVAC controls which is a huge negative).
You want to buy a Supercharged V8 because you can fit an infotainment screen that'll give you Android Auto. confused