Best lease car deals available?

Best lease car deals available?

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greggy50

6,185 posts

193 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Jumpy Guy said:
TTwiggy, that looks spot on, I hadn't considered one.

unfortunately, its been vetoed by our fleet manager- down to image, apparently..

So, back to Tiguan..
Fleet manager sounds a bit pathetic to be honest its still a brand new car and to be honest to my eyes its a nicer looking car than a tiguan and looks more expensive if anything!

TTwiggy

11,574 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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greggy50 said:
TTwiggy said:
soxboy said:
Jumpy Guy said:
Looking for a vw tiguan, or similar. Must be awd. Decent spec

20k miles

Any suggestions welcome
Have a look on Leasingoptions.uk
Got some good Tiguan Match 4motion deals on there last time I looked, Ford Kuga too. Quite easy to navigate the site to get prices for mileage.
I've just ordered a Kia Sportage KX3 (Sat nav) through leasing options for £220 per month, £1350 down at 10k miles a year. I guess this would be 'similar' to your needs?
Glad to here you went for one in end remember your thread. Hope you enjoy it!
Cheers! Should be with me in about 3 weeks. I think it will make a nice practical 'daily', but I am going to look for something small, quick and convertible to run alongside it, to keep my inner petrolhead happy. Would love a Caterham but probably a bit over budget. Thinking about a Boxster S (though I've had one before ) or a 3.0 Z4 (which would be newer than the Box, though I doubt as good a steer).

TTwiggy

11,574 posts

206 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Jumpy Guy said:
TTwiggy, that looks spot on, I hadn't considered one.

unfortunately, its been vetoed by our fleet manager- down to image, apparently..

So, back to Tiguan..
How odd. I know that Kia is hardly a prestige marque, but to those of us over 30, VW isn't exactly one either! Happy hunting anyway...

Fast Bug

11,837 posts

163 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Tuvra said:
Honestly, they change massively so in effect it was a waste of time. Just look at the Golf R, I could have ordered a base car for 9X23 @ £185+VAT, now I hear they are up £300++ on similar terms.

Again, its not a dig, just saying that when you walk in to the Ford dealer after Christmas, the car you decided you wanted may not appeal due to the new figures quoted.
This in a nut shell, again it wasn't meant as a dig. I've had deals go up by nigh on £100pcm on some vehicles when the campaigns change.

Blown2CV

29,192 posts

205 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Fast Bug said:
Tuvra said:
Honestly, they change massively so in effect it was a waste of time. Just look at the Golf R, I could have ordered a base car for 9X23 @ £185+VAT, now I hear they are up £300++ on similar terms.

Again, its not a dig, just saying that when you walk in to the Ford dealer after Christmas, the car you decided you wanted may not appeal due to the new figures quoted.
This in a nut shell, again it wasn't meant as a dig. I've had deals go up by nigh on £100pcm on some vehicles when the campaigns change.
but if you're not ready to buy now, you're not ready to buy now.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

137 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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For the internally running tax argument subthread, I am aware of one large company that in the UK underwrites/guarantors their employees lease cars and the employee gets business rates and pay no BIK

I don't want to name them but to give you a clue they invented xerography.

Blown2CV

29,192 posts

205 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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talksthetorque said:
For the internally running tax argument subthread, I am aware of one large company that in the UK underwrites/guarantors their employees lease cars and the employee gets business rates and pay no BIK

I don't want to name them but to give you a clue they invented xerography.

Vaud

51,008 posts

157 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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talksthetorque said:
For the internally running tax argument subthread, I am aware of one large company that in the UK underwrites/guarantors their employees lease cars and the employee gets business rates and pay no BIK

I don't want to name them but to give you a clue they invented xerography.
Uxbridge based?

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

205 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Blown2CV said:
talksthetorque said:
For the internally running tax argument subthread, I am aware of one large company that in the UK underwrites/guarantors their employees lease cars and the employee gets business rates and pay no BIK

I don't want to name them but to give you a clue they invented xerography.
A company I worked for did the same.

thelawnet

1,539 posts

157 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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TTwiggy said:
I've just ordered a Kia Sportage KX3 (Sat nav) through leasing options for £220 per month, £1350 down at 10k miles a year. I guess this would be 'similar' to your needs?
Why didn't you get the KX4 for £228

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

137 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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Blown2CV said:
talksthetorque said:
For the internally running tax argument subthread, I am aware of one large company that in the UK underwrites/guarantors their employees lease cars and the employee gets business rates and pay no BIK

I don't want to name them but to give you a clue they invented xerography.
apologies, you are correct in that it's bks. What I should have said was:

For the internally running tax argument subthread, I am aware of one large company that in the UK underwrites/guarantors their employee's lease cars and the employee gets business rates and pays no BIK

I don't want to name them but to give you a clue they inventedproduced the first commercial machines that utilised xerography.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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talksthetorque said:
For the internally running tax argument subthread, I am aware of one large company that in the UK underwrites/guarantors their employees lease cars and the employee gets business rates and pay no BIK

I don't want to name them but to give you a clue they invented xerography.
Cannon? biggrin

theboss

6,957 posts

221 months

Tuesday 25th November 2014
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talksthetorque said:
For the internally running tax argument subthread, I am aware of one large company that in the UK underwrites/guarantors their employees lease cars and the employee gets business rates and pay no BIK

I don't want to name them but to give you a clue they invented xerography.
I'd be willing to go out on a limb and speculate that they're operating an employee car ownership scheme, which - if the case - would have very little relevance to this thread or any internally running subthreads...

Ultimately will they offer to back any lease deal of the employees choosing - i.e. potentially thousands of unique agreements with different suppliers - or do they run a scheme with a supplier of their own choosing and present employees with a prescribed range of deals to choose from?

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

191 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Quick question - looking at the Leasing Options website, they offer 2, 3 or 4 years deals. On some of the cars, the 2 year deal is a much cheaper monthly price, on others the 4 year deal is cheaper & on some it's pretty much the same. How come? (these are personal lease prices BTW)

Kia Sportage KX-4 is £228pm for a 2 year and £275 for a 4 year.
Hyundai IX35 is £255pm for a 2 year and £215 for a 4 year.
Nissan Qashqai is £228pm for a 2 year and £230 for a 4 year.


northwest monkey

6,370 posts

191 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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thelawnet said:
TTwiggy said:
I've just ordered a Kia Sportage KX3 (Sat nav) through leasing options for £220 per month, £1350 down at 10k miles a year. I guess this would be 'similar' to your needs?
Why didn't you get the KX4 for £228
That looks bloody good value to me. Hmmm......

Tuvra

7,921 posts

227 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Blown2CV said:
but if you're not ready to buy now, you're not ready to buy now.
True, which is why going in and getting all the figures drawn up was a waste of time smile

Blown2CV

29,192 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Tuvra said:
Blown2CV said:
but if you're not ready to buy now, you're not ready to buy now.
True, which is why going in and getting all the figures drawn up was a waste of time smile
I'm not disagreeing but if you've never done it before then maybe it might make you feel like you've got more sorted in your head and you know what's what. The issue is when you get a different salesperson next time and have to do it all again anyway...

Blown2CV

29,192 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Urban Sports said:
Blown2CV said:
talksthetorque said:
For the internally running tax argument subthread, I am aware of one large company that in the UK underwrites/guarantors their employees lease cars and the employee gets business rates and pay no BIK

I don't want to name them but to give you a clue they invented xerography.
A company I worked for did the same.
There's no way to allow your employees to make use of a car as if it were their own and legally avoid BIK on their behalf. If it happened, it was illegal. Of course big companies don't have a history of avoiding tax at all do they. In fact you'll probably find that you're personally liable.

ArsE92

21,022 posts

189 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Jesus. fking. Christ.

BigBen

11,689 posts

232 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Blown2CV said:
Urban Sports said:
Blown2CV said:
talksthetorque said:
For the internally running tax argument subthread, I am aware of one large company that in the UK underwrites/guarantors their employees lease cars and the employee gets business rates and pay no BIK

I don't want to name them but to give you a clue they invented xerography.
A company I worked for did the same.
There's no way to allow your employees to make use of a car as if it were their own and legally avoid BIK on their behalf. If it happened, it was illegal. Of course big companies don't have a history of avoiding tax at all do they. In fact you'll probably find that you're personally liable.
Another big UK company which the Mrs used to work for ran a similar scheme. It was quite complicated and involved pre-signing over some of the 45p a mile tax benefit and paying an insurance premium covering the eventuality of you leaving the company and therefore the lease.

I would expect the revenue approved of the scheme or got bored of trying to understand it.

Ben

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