Suggestions for next car
Discussion
Rawwr said:
I've bored myself to tears enduring endless tedious 'what car' threads on here, where the owner is basically looking for affirmation of his pre-selected choice.
This thread on the other hand is genuinely interesting and I want to see what the OP ends up with
Cheers mate. As a mate with an M4 who used to have CS400 Impreza pointed out, we had both been spoilt with the power and "rawness" of our previous cars, and finding something that's more civilised and "grown up" whilst trying to retain some of the thrills those cars delivered has proven very difficult!This thread on the other hand is genuinely interesting and I want to see what the OP ends up with
It's also pretty clear from the cars I've tested in the last month that most manufacturers seem to have become almost obsessive with safety and reigning everything in it trying to make everything "refined"; the result is (for me anyway) cars which should feel fast but are truly unexciting to drive.
It's a shame nobody in the industry seems to have realised not everyone wants dull "performance" motoring!
Rawwr said:
FWIW, I reckon you'll end up with a Focus RS. It seems to tick pretty much all of your boxes and it happens to have the benefit of being a Ford with and RS badge and so a good decision in financial terms, too.
It's strange because the Ford had the more grown up cabin, but actually felt sluggish and less exciting than I remember compared to the Civic, which is why I'm going to drive one again before I make a decision.It also had a ridiculously tiny boot which I was concerned wouldn't take a pram and a few bags which is truly shocking and sadly does have to play a part in the consideration.
The Ford is the more obvious choice for investment but a little birdie tells me they're considering bringing out an RS500
.Rumour also has it that Mountune shredded the rear diff on one because it couldn't take the torque increases from their maps although I don't know how much truth there is in that (read it on VXR forum so taken with a pinch of salt!)
The Civic apparently hasn't been mapped "officially" although I've seen AMD tuning offering increases of 50-60bhp and 60-80ft/lbs just off a map, which sounds nuts. Gearbox is supposed to be the week point with the CTR. Also seen a thread about an engine wire breaking but would imagine that's been fixed at the factory now.
Edited by mrnoisy78 on Monday 8th August 07:10
mrnoisy78 said:
It's strange because the Ford had the more grown up cabin, but actually felt sluggish and less exciting than I remember compared to the Civic, which is why I'm going to drive one again before I make a decision.
It also had a ridiculously tiny boot which I was concerned wouldn't take a pram and a few bags which is truly shocking and sadly does have to play a part in the consideration.
The Ford is the more obvious choice for investment but a little birdie tells me they're considering bringing out an RS500.
Rumour also has it that Mountune shredded the rear diff on one because it couldn't take the torque increases from their maps although I don't know how much truth there is in that (read it on VXR forum so taken with a pinch of salt!)
The Civic apparently hasn't been mapped "officially" although I've seen AMD tuning offering increases of 50-60bhp and 60-80ft/lbs just off a map, which sounds nuts. Gearbox is supposed to be the week point with the CTR. Also seen a thread about an engine wire breaking but would imagine that's been fixed at the factory now.
Try the Trophy if you want things a bit more engaging & raw, the reason for the small boot is the 4wd there had to be compromises made, the 500 is a couple of years away & will be come along as this Focus is phased out.
It also had a ridiculously tiny boot which I was concerned wouldn't take a pram and a few bags which is truly shocking and sadly does have to play a part in the consideration.
The Ford is the more obvious choice for investment but a little birdie tells me they're considering bringing out an RS500
.Rumour also has it that Mountune shredded the rear diff on one because it couldn't take the torque increases from their maps although I don't know how much truth there is in that (read it on VXR forum so taken with a pinch of salt!)
The Civic apparently hasn't been mapped "officially" although I've seen AMD tuning offering increases of 50-60bhp and 60-80ft/lbs just off a map, which sounds nuts. Gearbox is supposed to be the week point with the CTR. Also seen a thread about an engine wire breaking but would imagine that's been fixed at the factory now.
Try the Trophy if you want things a bit more engaging & raw, the reason for the small boot is the 4wd there had to be compromises made, the 500 is a couple of years away & will be come along as this Focus is phased out.
Edited by mrnoisy78 on Monday 8th August 07:10
ZX10R NIN said:
Try the Trophy if you want things a bit more engaging & raw, the reason for the small boot is the 4wd there had to be compromises made, the 500 is a couple of years away & will be come along as this Focus is phased out.
Yeah I know why it's small mate, was surprised quite how much so though.Need to drive the Civic again.
Whilst I don't doubt that the Megane is probably the most track focused of all these cars, visually does nothing for me and the interior really is very 90's, I'd want something a little more as this isn't going to be a track special it's a daily.
Pretty sure it's between the CTR and the RS now.
Edited by mrnoisy78 on Monday 8th August 11:31
Edited by mrnoisy78 on Monday 8th August 13:43
Been out this lunchtime to test drive another CTR.
I now find myself in a bit of a dilemma.
The CTR delivers in terms of:
- The gadgets
- The interior (was good enough for me anyway)
- Manual gearbox (which feels great)
- Acceleration and excitement factor (we were 3 up as I took a mate with me, and he also remarked that it was so much more impressive than the Golf R)
- Enormous boot
I even looked at it and thought, OK I could learn to like the look of this car - I had similar thoughts when I bought my bugeye Impreza 11 years ago.
Now the downside - two things:
1. The ride. Ah the ride. On a normal A road was thinking, "meh, this is pretty solid but not too bad, I could probably live with this", but then we turned down a side street and "oh for the love of christ this is worse than the Subaru was on coilovers" lol. R mode is virtually unusable too unless you're on the motorway I'd imagine, much firmer.
The difference in damping getting back into the BMW from that Type R was like night and day - this is the problem, the M3 is a high benchmark to live up to.
2. The engine noise. Now right now I'm spoilt with a lovely sounding V8, and before that I had a flat four burble.
The Honda roars in an angry way, but it sounds almost too shouty rather than characterful; I know now what some of the journalists meant.
Number 2 I could live with push came to shove, but I'm not sure about number 1; I'm test driving another RS on Wednesday morning at which point I'll make my mind up and decide what I'm going to do.
Ultimately I think if the Ford really doesn't light my fire, I can always just keep the BMW and seek out a manual version to try that.
If the civic was a weekend only car I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but as a daily, I have concerns....
One of the biggest benefits of all of this has also been to see quite how a good a car the M3 really is.
Despite my quibbles about it, it's helping me recognise what a good all rounder - and in some cases class leader - it manages to be.
I now find myself in a bit of a dilemma.
The CTR delivers in terms of:
- The gadgets
- The interior (was good enough for me anyway)
- Manual gearbox (which feels great)
- Acceleration and excitement factor (we were 3 up as I took a mate with me, and he also remarked that it was so much more impressive than the Golf R)
- Enormous boot
I even looked at it and thought, OK I could learn to like the look of this car - I had similar thoughts when I bought my bugeye Impreza 11 years ago.
Now the downside - two things:
1. The ride. Ah the ride. On a normal A road was thinking, "meh, this is pretty solid but not too bad, I could probably live with this", but then we turned down a side street and "oh for the love of christ this is worse than the Subaru was on coilovers" lol. R mode is virtually unusable too unless you're on the motorway I'd imagine, much firmer.
The difference in damping getting back into the BMW from that Type R was like night and day - this is the problem, the M3 is a high benchmark to live up to.
2. The engine noise. Now right now I'm spoilt with a lovely sounding V8, and before that I had a flat four burble.
The Honda roars in an angry way, but it sounds almost too shouty rather than characterful; I know now what some of the journalists meant.
Number 2 I could live with push came to shove, but I'm not sure about number 1; I'm test driving another RS on Wednesday morning at which point I'll make my mind up and decide what I'm going to do.
Ultimately I think if the Ford really doesn't light my fire, I can always just keep the BMW and seek out a manual version to try that.
If the civic was a weekend only car I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but as a daily, I have concerns....
One of the biggest benefits of all of this has also been to see quite how a good a car the M3 really is.
Despite my quibbles about it, it's helping me recognise what a good all rounder - and in some cases class leader - it manages to be.
Edited by mrnoisy78 on Monday 8th August 14:48
mrnoisy78 said:
Been out this lunchtime to test drive another CTR.
I now find myself in a bit of a dilemma.
The CTR delivers in terms of:
- The gadgets
- The interior (was good enough for me anyway)
- Manual gearbox (which feels great)
- Acceleration and excitement factor (we were 3 up as I took a mate with me, and he also remarked that it was so much more impressive than the Golf R)
- Enormous boot
I even looked at it and thought, OK I could learn to like the look of this car - I had similar thoughts when I bought my bugeye Impreza 11 years ago.
Now the downside - two things:
1. The ride. Ah the ride. On a normal A road was thinking, "meh, this is pretty solid but not too bad, I could probably live with this", but then we turned down a side street and "oh for the love of christ this is worse than the Subaru was on coilovers" lol. R mode is virtually unusable too unless you're on the motorway I'd imagine, much firmer.
The difference in damping getting back into the BMW from that Type R was like night and day - this is the problem, the M3 is a high benchmark to live up to.
2. The engine noise. Now right now I'm spoilt with a lovely sounding V8, and before that I had a flat four burble.
The Honda roars in an angry way, but it sounds almost too shouty rather than characterful; I know now what some of the journalists meant.
Number 2 I could live with push came to shove, but I'm not sure about number 1; I'm test driving another RS on Wednesday morning at which point I'll make my mind up and decide what I'm going to do.
Ultimately I think if the Ford really doesn't light my fire, I can always just keep the BMW and seek out a manual version to try that.
If the civic was a weekend only car I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but as a daily, I have concerns....
One of the biggest benefits of all of this has also been to see quite how a good a car the M3 really is.
Despite my quibbles about it, it's helping me recognise what a good all rounder - and in some cases class leader - it manages to be.
Fair enough on the Megane did you read PH's write up on the Mountune RS?I now find myself in a bit of a dilemma.
The CTR delivers in terms of:
- The gadgets
- The interior (was good enough for me anyway)
- Manual gearbox (which feels great)
- Acceleration and excitement factor (we were 3 up as I took a mate with me, and he also remarked that it was so much more impressive than the Golf R)
- Enormous boot
I even looked at it and thought, OK I could learn to like the look of this car - I had similar thoughts when I bought my bugeye Impreza 11 years ago.
Now the downside - two things:
1. The ride. Ah the ride. On a normal A road was thinking, "meh, this is pretty solid but not too bad, I could probably live with this", but then we turned down a side street and "oh for the love of christ this is worse than the Subaru was on coilovers" lol. R mode is virtually unusable too unless you're on the motorway I'd imagine, much firmer.
The difference in damping getting back into the BMW from that Type R was like night and day - this is the problem, the M3 is a high benchmark to live up to.
2. The engine noise. Now right now I'm spoilt with a lovely sounding V8, and before that I had a flat four burble.
The Honda roars in an angry way, but it sounds almost too shouty rather than characterful; I know now what some of the journalists meant.
Number 2 I could live with push came to shove, but I'm not sure about number 1; I'm test driving another RS on Wednesday morning at which point I'll make my mind up and decide what I'm going to do.
Ultimately I think if the Ford really doesn't light my fire, I can always just keep the BMW and seek out a manual version to try that.
If the civic was a weekend only car I'd buy it in a heartbeat, but as a daily, I have concerns....
One of the biggest benefits of all of this has also been to see quite how a good a car the M3 really is.
Despite my quibbles about it, it's helping me recognise what a good all rounder - and in some cases class leader - it manages to be.
Well you need to fit in a manual M3 amongst those test drives also have you thought about an Exhaust for the M3 as maybe a bit aural stimulation lower down the rev range would also help.
ZX10R NIN said:
Fair enough on the Megane did you read PH's write up on the Mountune RS?
Well you need to fit in a manual M3 amongst those test drives also have you thought about an Exhaust for the M3 as maybe a bit aural stimulation lower down the rev range would also help.
Definitely agree re the manual M3, the problem is finding a good one with the later spec iDrive and all the goodies.Well you need to fit in a manual M3 amongst those test drives also have you thought about an Exhaust for the M3 as maybe a bit aural stimulation lower down the rev range would also help.
Mine is quite heavily spec'd - jet black paint, black leather, heated front seats, EDC, USB, Bluetooth, tints, 19" alloys, etc. I spent ages looking for the specific spec I wanted and had to pull out of the first sale with a London BMW dealer as it developed faults before I collected it and turned out rats had eaten the wiring loom - understandably I said "thanks, give me back my deposit" lol.
The only ones I can find at the moment have the horrible blue leather interior which just isn't my thing.
I'm driving another RS tomorrow morning to try and decide if it's worth moving or staying where I am.
So disappointed on the Type R, the styling was almost growing on me but that ride I just don't think I could live with on an everyday basis. The wife would never let me hear the end of it.
The Mountune modifications for the RS which take it to 370/370 sound appealing for sure and would hopefully make it a more exciting car to drive but we'll see.
Ultimately if tomorrow's drive is lack lustre and the boot is really as tiny as I remember it being I can see me leaving it as is, renewing the BMW warranty for another year and maybe buy a cheap track car I can build up in my garage in the future.
The only other alternative I haven't tried yet is that manual M3, and also the AMG C63 - I see they come in 4-MATIC spec which I think someone pointed out earlier on the thread, so that's one other to try - think I'll avoid the RWD only version as I'm not too keen on arse out action on the road network
. A few reviews do state firm ride but we'll see how firm!Edited by mrnoisy78 on Tuesday 9th August 10:51
Your's sounds very well spec'd, as someone who's had a C63 I'd say it edges the M3 with the extra torque being available from lower in the rev range which made it IMO more enjoyable, if you're really on it I will say the M3 is the better car but for the other 320 days of the year the rolls are reversed and in my biased opinion the C63 is the better daily.
The RWD's are fine you have to be properly mis behaving for things to get too wild but getting one with the diff or budgeting to have one put in will make it a much more rewarding drive the ride isn't that stiff I'd say it's about the same as the M3, the ride control isn't as good.
the C63 is the better daily.The RWD's are fine you have to be properly mis behaving for things to get too wild but getting one with the diff or budgeting to have one put in will make it a much more rewarding drive the ride isn't that stiff I'd say it's about the same as the M3, the ride control isn't as good.
Have you considered going back to the newer "slightly" more grown up WRX STI?
Manual, burbuly, space for the family, and most of all, unlike a lot of the German's actually puts a smile on your face as apposed to chasing numbers.
Got to admit, I've not driven one, but plan to, like you I'm struggling to find a fairly practical car that's actually fun and engaging to drive at sensible speeds, but not a pain in the arse on the daily commute.
Manual, burbuly, space for the family, and most of all, unlike a lot of the German's actually puts a smile on your face as apposed to chasing numbers.
Got to admit, I've not driven one, but plan to, like you I'm struggling to find a fairly practical car that's actually fun and engaging to drive at sensible speeds, but not a pain in the arse on the daily commute.
Electronicpants said:
Have you considered going back to the newer "slightly" more grown up WRX STI?
Manual, burbuly, space for the family, and most of all, unlike a lot of the German's actually puts a smile on your face as apposed to chasing numbers.
Got to admit, I've not driven one, but plan to, like you I'm struggling to find a fairly practical car that's actually fun and engaging to drive at sensible speeds, but not a pain in the arse on the daily commute.
Wouldn't touch one mate, they've gone soft.Manual, burbuly, space for the family, and most of all, unlike a lot of the German's actually puts a smile on your face as apposed to chasing numbers.
Got to admit, I've not driven one, but plan to, like you I'm struggling to find a fairly practical car that's actually fun and engaging to drive at sensible speeds, but not a pain in the arse on the daily commute.
I had a 2001 WRX and then a 2005 STI over the space of 10 years (I had the WRX for 7, the STI for 3 and spent way too much on both of them
).The 2.5's they've used since 2006 have chocolate pistons and head gaskets go frequently; the blocks aren't as good as the 2.0 either.
If I was going that way I'd have a 2.1 or 2.35 built with an SC42, GT30 or similar for a bug or hawk shape.
I'm really not a fan of the looks of the hatch or the new car - I'd have a bugeye, blob or hawk shape with the 2.0 engine and a set of Ohlins possibly, but I'd say it's more likely I'd do that for a track car project - the good thing about Imprezas is the servicing aspect - very easy to work on, I did all the servicing on mine myself.
Edited by mrnoisy78 on Tuesday 9th August 14:34
ZX10R NIN said:
Your's sounds very well spec'd, as someone who's had a C63 I'd say it edges the M3 with the extra torque being available from lower in the rev range which made it IMO more enjoyable, if you're really on it I will say the M3 is the better car but for the other 320 days of the year the rolls are reversed and in my biased opinion the C63 is the better daily.
The RWD's are fine you have to be properly mis behaving for things to get too wild but getting one with the diff or budgeting to have one put in will make it a much more rewarding drive the ride isn't that stiff I'd say it's about the same as the M3, the ride control isn't as good.
You've got it mate - the extra torque and lower in the rev range is exactly what the M3 is missing and what I'm missing from the Subaru. the C63 is the better daily.The RWD's are fine you have to be properly mis behaving for things to get too wild but getting one with the diff or budgeting to have one put in will make it a much more rewarding drive the ride isn't that stiff I'd say it's about the same as the M3, the ride control isn't as good.
I do question whether the lack of a manual will still irritate me but I think it's definitely worth a look.
Will be interesting to see what tomorrow's like
mrnoisy78 said:
Always wanted a late RX7 in red but just can't justify one as a daily now
I have a red '96 as a daily driver. It has "rear seats", but I fear when kids come along I'll have garage it for a while and get something depressing. Then get it back out ~18 years later and hope it all still works, and they still make petrol.mrnoisy78 said:
Electronicpants said:
Have you considered going back to the newer "slightly" more grown up WRX STI?
Manual, burbuly, space for the family, and most of all, unlike a lot of the German's actually puts a smile on your face as apposed to chasing numbers.
Got to admit, I've not driven one, but plan to, like you I'm struggling to find a fairly practical car that's actually fun and engaging to drive at sensible speeds, but not a pain in the arse on the daily commute.
Wouldn't touch one mate, they've gone soft.Manual, burbuly, space for the family, and most of all, unlike a lot of the German's actually puts a smile on your face as apposed to chasing numbers.
Got to admit, I've not driven one, but plan to, like you I'm struggling to find a fairly practical car that's actually fun and engaging to drive at sensible speeds, but not a pain in the arse on the daily commute.
I had a 2001 WRX and then a 2005 STI over the space of 10 years (I had the WRX for 7, the STI for 3 and spent way too much on both of them
).The 2.5's they've used since 2006 have chocolate pistons and head gaskets go frequently; the blocks aren't as good as the 2.0 either.
If I was going that way I'd have a 2.1 or 2.35 built with an SC42, GT30 or similar for a bug or hawk shape.
I'm really not a fan of the looks of the hatch or the new car - I'd have a bugeye, blob or hawk shape with the 2.0 engine and a set of Ohlins possibly, but I'd say it's more likely I'd do that for a track car project - the good thing about Imprezas is the servicing aspect - very easy to work on, I did all the servicing on mine myself.
Edited by mrnoisy78 on Tuesday 9th August 14:34
PlayFair said:
Depends what you want from the car - is it normal daily driver that gets 5+ trackdays a year?
why not an Evo 10? has the comforts of a 'modern car' so can carry the little one round, yet will give you that 4wd performance from the Scooby? - they can be easily tuned to 400bhp and a very capable car - they look fantastic and is a lot more special that a M3 (IMO) it will also give you your fix of Japanese metal - unlike the questionable looks of the new CTR.
Depends how much he likes having a courtesy car. When I had my Evo X, I got to use a LOT of courtesy cars thanks to things constantly breaking, failing or falling off. Great car to drive, terrible car to own. why not an Evo 10? has the comforts of a 'modern car' so can carry the little one round, yet will give you that 4wd performance from the Scooby? - they can be easily tuned to 400bhp and a very capable car - they look fantastic and is a lot more special that a M3 (IMO) it will also give you your fix of Japanese metal - unlike the questionable looks of the new CTR.
Electronicpants said:
Well, what should I get then?
If you want something a bit less refined and more in lairy territory I'd suggest you go and look at the Honda.The standard Subaru suspension is pretty hard anyway if you stick 18's and lowering springs (let alone coilovers!) on it so it won't be a million miles away! (and you'll want to stick lowering springs on it because the standard cars sit way too high).
All depends what your budget is really; if I didn't have so much money tied up in the BMW I might well be considering buying something like a 530d and tuning it, but I can't afford that luxury on a new car - except the Focus because the Mountune upgrades won't void the warranty.
Ali_T said:
Depends how much he likes having a courtesy car. When I had my Evo X, I got to use a LOT of courtesy cars thanks to things constantly breaking, failing or falling off. Great car to drive, terrible car to own.
LOL. Yeah I read the Evo long term write up about how much their whole team hated the Evo X.Personally the looks aren't for me, I was a huge fan of the 7-9 shape, the 10 doesn't do it for me, especially the rear.
I'm going to apologise for saying this first.......sorry!
But you do know a gearbox is a torque multiplier don't you?
I had the same issue in my V10 m6 as you state in your v8 M3 and the answer isn't to swap the gearbox to manual, it's to drive in a lower gear than perhaps you normally would. I found this tiresome in the end as its not particularly relaxing if you're just driving to the airport. Fantastic if you're on a hoon.
I'd like to try the v8 M6 convertible.
But you do know a gearbox is a torque multiplier don't you?
I had the same issue in my V10 m6 as you state in your v8 M3 and the answer isn't to swap the gearbox to manual, it's to drive in a lower gear than perhaps you normally would. I found this tiresome in the end as its not particularly relaxing if you're just driving to the airport. Fantastic if you're on a hoon.
I'd like to try the v8 M6 convertible.
jontysafe said:
I'm going to apologise for saying this first.......sorry!
But you do know a gearbox is a torque multiplier don't you?
I had the same issue in my V10 m6 as you state in your v8 M3 and the answer isn't to swap the gearbox to manual, it's to drive in a lower gear than perhaps you normally would. I found this tiresome in the end as its not particularly relaxing if you're just driving to the airport. Fantastic if you're on a hoon.
I'd like to try the v8 M6 convertible.
Haha yeah fully aware pal - however even if you redline the hell out of the car the performance is all in the mid to top end, which for a road car and daily driver just isn't usable for 90% of scenarios.But you do know a gearbox is a torque multiplier don't you?
I had the same issue in my V10 m6 as you state in your v8 M3 and the answer isn't to swap the gearbox to manual, it's to drive in a lower gear than perhaps you normally would. I found this tiresome in the end as its not particularly relaxing if you're just driving to the airport. Fantastic if you're on a hoon.
I'd like to try the v8 M6 convertible.
So an update.
Decision made. I test drove the RS again this morning but a much longer test drive with some varied roads.
Fantastic Ford salesman, encouraged me to push a lot more and I thoroughly enjoyed it, had a huge grin on my face. The pops and bangs in sport mode do help a little bit too
.
It's quite quick and I suspect with the Mountune upgrade - which should be out by the time the car arrives, and be everything I was after.
Have to admit I probably wouldn't use the sport suspension setting most of the time but the normal setting was absolutely fine.
I'd be happy to ditch drift mode and go for a comfort setting but it's nowhere near as hard as the Civic.
Touch screen as well, no iDrive which I've not been a great fan of coming from a high end Pioneer head unit.
The level of gadgetry on the Ford is also really up there, I was surprised. I lot of little things they do that other manufacturers don't, things like the door protectors are just a fantastic idea that should be on every single car manufacturer's to do list.
Only downside was confirmation that the boot is slightly smaller, but decided I can live with that.
In fact, I was so impressed that I put a deposit down as they had a car with a cancellation due for delivery first week of October. There you have it folks.
Thanks for everyone's feedback - those of you who said re the Focus - pat yourselves on the back lol.
Decision made. I test drove the RS again this morning but a much longer test drive with some varied roads.
Fantastic Ford salesman, encouraged me to push a lot more and I thoroughly enjoyed it, had a huge grin on my face. The pops and bangs in sport mode do help a little bit too
.It's quite quick and I suspect with the Mountune upgrade - which should be out by the time the car arrives, and be everything I was after.
Have to admit I probably wouldn't use the sport suspension setting most of the time but the normal setting was absolutely fine.
I'd be happy to ditch drift mode and go for a comfort setting but it's nowhere near as hard as the Civic.
Touch screen as well, no iDrive which I've not been a great fan of coming from a high end Pioneer head unit.
The level of gadgetry on the Ford is also really up there, I was surprised. I lot of little things they do that other manufacturers don't, things like the door protectors are just a fantastic idea that should be on every single car manufacturer's to do list.
Only downside was confirmation that the boot is slightly smaller, but decided I can live with that.
In fact, I was so impressed that I put a deposit down as they had a car with a cancellation due for delivery first week of October. There you have it folks.
Thanks for everyone's feedback - those of you who said re the Focus - pat yourselves on the back lol.
Edited by mrnoisy78 on Wednesday 10th August 15:57
mrnoisy78 said:
So an update.
Decision made. I test drove the RS again this morning but a much longer test drive with some varied roads.
Fantastic Ford salesman, encouraged me to push a lot more and I thoroughly enjoyed it, had a huge grin on my face. The pops and bangs in sport mode do help a little bit too.
It's quite quick and I suspect with the Mountune upgrade - which should be out by the time the car arrives, and be everything I was after.
Have to admit I probably wouldn't use the sport suspension setting most of the time but the normal setting was absolutely fine.
I'd be happy to ditch drift mode and go for a comfort setting but it's nowhere near as hard as the Civic.
Touch screen as well, no iDrive which I've not been a great fan of coming from a high end Pioneer head unit.
The level of gadgetry on the Ford is also really up there, I was surprised. I lot of little things they do that other manufacturers don't, things like the door protectors are just a fantastic idea that should be on every single car manufacturer's to do list.
Only downside was confirmation that the boot is slightly smaller, but decided I can live with that.
In fact, I was so impressed that I put a deposit down as they had a car with a cancellation due for delivery first week of October. There you have it folks.
Thanks for everyone's feedback - those of you who said re the Focus - pat yourselves on the back lol.
Tried a BMW M2? Decision made. I test drove the RS again this morning but a much longer test drive with some varied roads.
Fantastic Ford salesman, encouraged me to push a lot more and I thoroughly enjoyed it, had a huge grin on my face. The pops and bangs in sport mode do help a little bit too
.It's quite quick and I suspect with the Mountune upgrade - which should be out by the time the car arrives, and be everything I was after.
Have to admit I probably wouldn't use the sport suspension setting most of the time but the normal setting was absolutely fine.
I'd be happy to ditch drift mode and go for a comfort setting but it's nowhere near as hard as the Civic.
Touch screen as well, no iDrive which I've not been a great fan of coming from a high end Pioneer head unit.
The level of gadgetry on the Ford is also really up there, I was surprised. I lot of little things they do that other manufacturers don't, things like the door protectors are just a fantastic idea that should be on every single car manufacturer's to do list.
Only downside was confirmation that the boot is slightly smaller, but decided I can live with that.
In fact, I was so impressed that I put a deposit down as they had a car with a cancellation due for delivery first week of October. There you have it folks.
Thanks for everyone's feedback - those of you who said re the Focus - pat yourselves on the back lol.
Edited by mrnoisy78 on Wednesday 10th August 15:57
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