Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost

Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost

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Gas1883

357 posts

50 months

Thursday 14th December 2023
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Yes I’ve read a few stories of wet belt breaking up
& blocking oil ways , that was my fear , new turbo , then problem returns

stickylabels

576 posts

94 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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Rang round number of 'specialists' again yesterday, same answer no-one wants the job around here. Stumbled over the Ford dealership in Blairgowrie. Had good chat with the service bod who was extremely helpful and talked bout the bits that need doing that Stevemcs talks about such as the washer, torque meter etc. He talked about a car they'd seen recently that had only 2 holes left free in the strainer for oil to get through.......

Quote is £1250 inc vat and they want the car for a day and half. So, not cheap but helpful so plan is to get it to them early-ish new year for peace of mind.

stevemcs

8,732 posts

95 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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Thats not a bad price if it includes water pump, both belts, wash sump out etc.

They can be done in a day, they are relativly simple

OldSkoolRS

6,771 posts

181 months

Saturday 16th December 2023
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Belle427 said:
I'm going to take a look at the Mito twin air but can't help thinking that's a bit out of the frying pan etc etc.
They say every petrol head should own an Alfa once!
Just came across this thread and noticed this post: I went through a similar process earlier this year looking for a cheap to run local use/second car. I looked at Fiestas since my son has the older 1.25 engined model, which I've done various work to (including the standard type cambelt), but was put off by stories of the 'Ecoboom' engine.

I ended up buying a Mito (have a thread in 'readers cars' section. It is ironic that I chose an Alfa trying to avoid reliability issues, but I wasn't under any illusions: Mito Twin Air have various issues too, but in most cases things that I can do myself.

You still need to look for one with a good history due to the Twin Air oil strainer and that they've used the correct grade of oil too. Electric power steering issues, sometimes caused by a weak battery (check), or poor earth cables (check) though if you're unlucky a replacement unit might be needed (check biggrin ). I fitted mine myself for just over £300, but that could be a £1,300 garage job. Plus broken springs seem quite common, top mounts and rear wheel bearings. Again at least things I could DIY if I have to.

It's a quirky little car and I actually really like it, so I'm probably too biased about them. The Twin Air sounds comical when extended...like a mad lawnmower, but at least it has character and it feels like you're going fast even when ultimately you aren't. Not as good on mpg as you might think given the £0 VED and official figures, but I've seen well over 50mpg on motorway runs and low 40s is our average as my wife uses it (heavy right foot wink ) for some pretty short trips.

Belle427

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9,151 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th December 2023
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OldSkoolRS said:
Belle427 said:
I'm going to take a look at the Mito twin air but can't help thinking that's a bit out of the frying pan etc etc.
They say every petrol head should own an Alfa once!
Just came across this thread and noticed this post: I went through a similar process earlier this year looking for a cheap to run local use/second car. I looked at Fiestas since my son has the older 1.25 engined model, which I've done various work to (including the standard type cambelt), but was put off by stories of the 'Ecoboom' engine.

I ended up buying a Mito (have a thread in 'readers cars' section. It is ironic that I chose an Alfa trying to avoid reliability issues, but I wasn't under any illusions: Mito Twin Air have various issues too, but in most cases things that I can do myself.

You still need to look for one with a good history due to the Twin Air oil strainer and that they've used the correct grade of oil too. Electric power steering issues, sometimes caused by a weak battery (check), or poor earth cables (check) though if you're unlucky a replacement unit might be needed (check biggrin ). I fitted mine myself for just over £300, but that could be a £1,300 garage job. Plus broken springs seem quite common, top mounts and rear wheel bearings. Again at least things I could DIY if I have to.

It's a quirky little car and I actually really like it, so I'm probably too biased about them. The Twin Air sounds comical when extended...like a mad lawnmower, but at least it has character and it feels like you're going fast even when ultimately you aren't. Not as good on mpg as you might think given the £0 VED and official figures, but I've seen well over 50mpg on motorway runs and low 40s is our average as my wife uses it (heavy right foot wink ) for some pretty short trips.
Thanks, im going to look for one after Christmas as although im only after a run around id like it to be somewhat interesting and it seems to tick that box.
I do all the work myself too so thats a bonus if things do go wrong.
It will get a thorough service when bought but what is the frequency for changing the oil strainer or is it not in the maintenance schedule?


stevemcs

8,732 posts

95 months

Sunday 17th December 2023
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If you referring to the 1.0, it’s not part of the schedule. Removing the sump will give you an indication to the engine’s condition but when the belt breaks up it also starts ripping the teeth off the belt. The job itself is diy capable if your handy with the tools it’s just the torque multiplier that makes it expensive.

Belle427

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9,151 posts

235 months

Sunday 17th December 2023
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stevemcs said:
If you referring to the 1.0, it’s not part of the schedule. Removing the sump will give you an indication to the engine’s condition but when the belt breaks up it also starts ripping the teeth off the belt. The job itself is diy capable if your handy with the tools it’s just the torque multiplier that makes it expensive.
I was referring to the strainer in the Alfa but thanks for that, my dad has a multiplier but its not something i want to get into to be honest.
Probably some bargains to be had though if you do the job yourself but im guessing its too late when it does go.

OldSkoolRS

6,771 posts

181 months

Sunday 17th December 2023
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Belle427 said:
Thanks, im going to look for one after Christmas as although im only after a run around id like it to be somewhat interesting and it seems to tick that box.
I do all the work myself too so thats a bonus if things do go wrong.
It will get a thorough service when bought but what is the frequency for changing the oil strainer or is it not in the maintenance schedule?
I can't remember if it's in the schedule, but it's recommended to clean it at each oil change at least. A new one is about £50 so it's a bit much to replace it each service (and not really necessary IMHO). It's worth joining the Alfa Owners forum; I put a series of pictures on there how to remove it as there weren't any I could find, plus it's on my readers cars thread on here, should you get one.

In the meantime there is lots of info on this page, all in PDF format about buying guides and how to do various common jobs, even some brochures so you can figure out which models have which options/spec.

Looks like their security certificate has expired, so enter at your own risk:

https://www.mitoregister.com/useful-info/

I have already downloaded some PDFs, so I'll see if there is a way add their buyer's guide to this post later.


ZX10R NIN

27,787 posts

127 months

Sunday 17th December 2023
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Belle427 said:
I was referring to the strainer in the Alfa but thanks for that, my dad has a multiplier but its not something i want to get into to be honest.
Probably some bargains to be had though if you do the job yourself but im guessing its too late when it does go.
I'd suggest changing the strainer on the first service & then cleaning it at each oil change.

Bobupndown

1,903 posts

45 months

Sunday 17th December 2023
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ZX10R NIN said:
Belle427 said:
I was referring to the strainer in the Alfa but thanks for that, my dad has a multiplier but its not something i want to get into to be honest.
Probably some bargains to be had though if you do the job yourself but im guessing its too late when it does go.
I'd suggest changing the strainer on the first service & then cleaning it at each oil change.
Remove sump every oil change?

OldSkoolRS

6,771 posts

181 months

Sunday 17th December 2023
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Bobupndown said:
Remove sump every oil change?
The Alfa Twin Air strainer isn't in the sump, it's accessed under the air filter box.

stickylabels

576 posts

94 months

Sunday 17th December 2023
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stevemcs said:
Thats not a bad price if it includes water pump, both belts, wash sump out etc.

They can be done in a day, they are relativly simple
The oil pump belt I think is extra but everything else included. I'm tempted to ask them to remove the sump first, check the strainer and if all looks ok then progress from there. He did say that the a/c compressor bolts that attach to the sump can sometimes be awkward (ie new sump) so we are going to get in there over xmas, clean them up and apply plenty of WD.