Needing a towing vehicle

Needing a towing vehicle

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MissTaniaThomas

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Thursday 20th January 2022
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Help me with a motoring dilemma…

I want to get something interesting to tow with. Thing is, large caravans over 7m have different vehicle requirements and need a vehicle rated at 3500kg GVW.

This is mostly bigger transit vans I can see so far, but has someone found a vehicle more interesting I can use that is rated as such.

Note. Yes, I’m aware a LR Discovery 4, or a big SUV would tow well, but they’re illegal so whatever I pick needs to be rated officially as above.

MissTaniaThomas

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Thursday 20th January 2022
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kiethton said:
Could you look at pick-up's

Ranger raptor would be epic (haven't actually checked the towing limit mind)
I’ve yet to find a pickup with a suitable legally plated GVW

…the big Fords can pull monumental weights though, I’d love a F250.

MissTaniaThomas

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Thursday 20th January 2022
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JapanRed said:
What do you mean by “large SUV’s are illegal”?
Folks who pull >7m caravans with SUV’s are doing it illegally. The law requires a 3500kg vehicle.

So many caravan users are invalidating their insurance. Their choice, their risk

MissTaniaThomas

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Thursday 20th January 2022
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InitialDave said:
This is not correct.

Why do you believe it is correct?

Edit: Are you including the drawbar in the length? That is separate. So the length of the entire thing can be longer than it technically "counts" as.

Edited by InitialDave on Thursday 20th January 21:19
For something with a body length of over 7m (a Hobby 720 is 7.9m, overall 9m) then it also requires a B+E licence as well as a 3500kg vehicle. Double whammy :-(

I’d love a Disco 4, but they’re 400kg short. ;-((

MissTaniaThomas

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InitialDave said:
This is not correct.

Why do you believe it is correct?

Edit: Are you including the drawbar in the length? That is separate. So the length of the entire thing can be longer than it technically "counts" as.

Edited by InitialDave on Thursday 20th January 21:19
For something with a body length of over 7m (a Hobby 720 is 7.9m, overall 9m) then it also requires a B+E licence as well as a 3500kg vehicle. Double whammy :-(

I’d love a Disco 4, but they’re 400kg short. ;-((

MissTaniaThomas

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Thursday 20th January 2022
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topcat1 said:
I never heard of that rule before, after a quick look even big commercials like the new Defender are not quite 3500kg GVW so unless you find an American monster of a pick-up it looks like large vans may be the only option. Ridiculous how a LHD tank or an empty van would be a legal tow vehicle but a Range Rover or Defender isn't...
I know, technically daft ain’t it.

A huge V8 pickup with 500bhp is a no but a 150bhp Sprinter van somehow isn’t

I get it about load as you couldn’t stick a 2 ton load in a pickup as it’d collapse, but it’s just nuts when you think about.

MissTaniaThomas

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Thursday 20th January 2022
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Jazzy Jag said:
SsangYong Rexton
Tops out at 2960kg.

Not even close.

Towing capacity isn’t GVW.

MissTaniaThomas

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Thursday 20th January 2022
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exelero said:
Or a Shogun
Only 3030kg GVW. Still too short by 470kg GVW unfortunately,

MissTaniaThomas

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Thursday 20th January 2022
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Darumvej said:
Isuzu D max or latest Toyota Hi Lux both plated at 3500kg
The Isuzu isn’t, tops out at 3100kg, Hilux is 2940.

Isuzu D-Max Kerbweight Payload GVW
Utility Single Cab 4x2 1,795kg 1,205kg 3,000kg
Utility Single Cab 4x4 1,895kg 1,205kg 3,100kg
Utility Extended Cab 1,960kg 1,140kg 3,100kg
Utility Double Cab 1,985kg 1,115kg 3,100kg
DL20 Extended Cab 1,952kg 1,148kg 3,100kg
DL20 Double Cab 1,980kg 1,120kg 3,100kg
DL20 Double Cab auto 2,010kg 1,090kg 3,100kg
DL40 Double Cab 2,000kg 1,100kg 3,100kg
DL40 Double Cab auto 2,030kg 1,070kg 3,100kg
V-Cross Double Cab 2,000kg 1,100kg 3,100kg
V-Cross Double Cab auto 2,030kg 1,070kg 3,100kg

MissTaniaThomas

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Darumvej said:
Isuzu D-Max towing capacity. Again with the exception of the entry-level Utility 4x2 Single Cab, all versions of this D-Max have a braked towing capacity of 3,500kg – that’s 3.5 tonnes. The 4x2 model is limited to 2,500kg (2.5 tonnes). The unbraked trailer limited is the maximum 750kg for all models.

I own a 2019 Toyota HI lux and they have been uprated to 3500kg and plated.
Alas, the government guidelines requires a vehicle to have 3500kg GVW, not towing capacity.

There’s a good discussion at https://professionalpickup.com/pickup-towing-limit... which hits the points well.

Which I agree is utterly daft, but rules is rules. Our EU friends don’t have this silly rule I hear.

MissTaniaThomas

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Thursday 20th January 2022
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ConnectionError said:
I think you know the answer to your own question.

There is nothing in the UK other than a van that would work and be legal.
Sad times, I so didn’t want to get a van and have it as a regular driver… was so hoping there would be some random something fun that wasn’t a van. Guess by definition, a 3.5t capable vehicle that isn’t a van would be a bit weird and a strange niche..

I’d better think about a fancy van that doesn’t look like a builders dumper truck with 20 used MaccyD wrappers on the dash, copies of Razzle from 2003 in the door pocket and sweaty arse marks on the drivers seat….

A girl can wish huh.

MissTaniaThomas

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InitialDave said:
What driving licence categories do you have?
I’ve a pre 97 licence with half of the alphabet on it….. I can drive 8250kg on it.