TVR V Noble

[DJ JULES]

Ok here we go....... noble m12 gto3 or TVR Cerbera 4.5?????????????????????

Thinking of getting a new addition

JULES

[mgbond]

DJ JULES said:

Ok here we go....... noble m12 gto3 or TVR Cerbera 4.5?????????????????????

Thinking of getting a new addition

JULES

I'll give you an example:

My Mate had a Cerb 4.5 and he loved it. I got my M12 2.5 (also a bit low on power at the tme), took him out and his words were "I got to get me one of these"

Nuff said.

Bondy

[V6GTO]

I tested a 4.5 Cerb (among others) when I was looking for a new car...nothing came close to the Noble.

Martin.

[sjc]

I've had 4 TVRs including a Cerb ( which was my fave), and I'm on my second Noble.Cerbera has better interior, better noise and is more practical. In every other area you could think of, the Noble beats it hands down. If I was buying a Cerb now, I'd be looking at cars for 15 grand and leaving a lot in the pot,rather than getting one of the last built, which would not be far off the sort of money you can get into a Noble for.Whatever you decide the're both great cars in different ways, and its a lovely position you find yourself in.

[NickyTwoHats]

Had both loved both still in love with the Noble...buy the Noble!

[MadMacMcMad]

Was looking to make the move from my Noble to Tamora cause I fancied a bit of fast open top. Thankfully I didn't do it. I drove 5 tams before I realised that the Noble was in a different league in pretty much every way. Not sure about the Cerb, but I would now not move from my car to any TVR.

[stillgrinning]

They are designed to do completely different things and it is a pointless exercise trying to compare them on a blank sheet of paper. If you play golf there is no point in buying a Noble as your main car, if you want fantastic handling through fast corners and a very strange noise when you change gear then there is no point buying a TVR, if you don't want to sweat buckets every time the sun comes out (or you want to hang out of the window and wave at your friends) then there is no point in driving a Noble. If you want interesting paint then don't buy a Noble. If you don't care about comfortable seats then buy a Noble. Noble for the track, TVR for most other things.

It's like comparing a Ferrari and a Corvette - pointless.

[MadMacMcMad]

'if you don't want to sweat buckets every time the sun comes out (or you want to hang out of the window and wave at your friends) then there is no point in driving a Noble'.

Hmmm
I'm afraid you lost me there. Aircon in my Noble works a treat.

[stillgrinning]

MadMacMcMad said:

'if you don't want to sweat buckets every time the sun comes out (or you want to hang out of the window and wave at your friends) then there is no point in driving a Noble'.

Hmmm
I'm afraid you lost me there. Aircon in my Noble works a treat.

All I know is every time I pull up behind a Noble (or a long line of them) all I see are all teh drivers doors openingas they pull to a halt

[V6GTO]

stillgrinning said:

All I know is every time I pull up behind a Noble (or a long line of them) all I see are all teh drivers doors openingas they pull to a halt

That's to clear out the excess skunk smoke

M.

[pbsaxman]

stillgrinning said:

If you don't care about comfortable seats then buy a Noble.

Seats in my M400 are beautifully comfortable. Regular six hour runs with no discomfort at all. Mind you I am short and round perhaps that helps

[stillgrinning]

V6GTO said:

stillgrinning said:

All I know is every time I pull up behind a Noble (or a long line of them) all I see are all teh drivers doors openingas they pull to a halt

That's to clear out the excess skunk smoke

M.

I thought it was to get rid of the smell of the bullsh1t

[M400 NBL]

stillgrinning said:

They are designed to do completely different things and it is a pointless exercise trying to compare them on a blank sheet of paper. If you play golf there is no point in buying a Noble as your main car, if you want fantastic handling through fast corners and a very strange noise when you change gear then there is no point buying a TVR, if you don't want to sweat buckets every time the sun comes out (or you want to hang out of the window and wave at your friends) then there is no point in driving a Noble. If you want interesting paint then don't buy a Noble. If you don't care about comfortable seats then buy a Noble. Noble for the track, TVR for most other things.

It's like comparing a Ferrari and a Corvette - pointless.

The OP's question was TVR v Noble which makes it very difficult not to compare them, ie it's usual to list pro's and con's to help make a decision.

Ironically you compared the two marques yourself...and may possibly have helped him

[MadMacMcMad]

Noble every time.
Open the doors at lights to allow on lookers a better view of what they are missing. Also to let some heat in.

[sjc]

stillgrinning said:

They are designed to do completely different things and it is a pointless exercise trying to compare them on a blank sheet of paper. If you play golf there is no point in buying a Noble as your main car, if you want fantastic handling through fast corners and a very strange noise when you change gear then there is no point buying a TVR, if you don't want to sweat buckets every time the sun comes out (or you want to hang out of the window and wave at your friends) then there is no point in driving a Noble. If you want interesting paint then don't buy a Noble. If you don't care about comfortable seats then buy a Noble. Noble for the track, TVR for most other things.

It's like comparing a Ferrari and a Corvette - pointless.

If you want your roof to fly off at any time buy the TVR (especially the Tuscan)
If you want that feeling of " how long have my chocolate finger followers got" buy any 6 cyl TVR.
If you play golf, don't buy a TVR either as invarably you won't be able to get in the boot anyway. For the record a set of clubs fit happily in the passenger seat of the Noble, and in any case golf equals so don't take either.
Oh and my air-con works fine, and the M400 seats are comfy for me at 6ft 4".
If you want one of the quickest in a straight line ( nutty or track cars excepted),one of the quickest in the twisties ( with a good driver, I'm not!)and one of the most entertaining cars this side of £100K buy the Noble.
And I use my M400 everyday, something I never ever considered in my 2 Griffiths, Cerbera or Tuscan.
Other than that StillGrinning I think we agree on everything!

[BCA]

Two very different cars, I've only had limited exposure to Nobles (thanks to Joust/ two other owners who arent on here) - but in my opinion it is one of the most devastatingly capable cars I have ever had the pleasure of being in/ witnessing when driven with commitment. One turned up at a drenched Shelsey Walsh hillclimb and was not only a massive 6 seconds quicker than we dared pilot the Cerb up there, it was a good second clear of all the massively tuned Jap 4wd rockets it compete against. A novice (though clearly competant driver) absolutely annihalated everything in its class in the wet. Absolutely superb cars dynamically.

If only the interior/looks/engine/sound were quite as special, this is where the Cerb really scores IMHO, whilst having a large boot and more seats (albeit barely useable ones.)

In an ideal world, both would grace the garage, for two very different purposes. Both stunning cars though, just decide what you want from the car - the noble is the better drive/more able, the Cerb is more of a hooligan (incredible sound and always willing to spin up its wheels!)/throw bags into the boot and tour europe type car. Our useage in the Cerb is probably perfectly suited to a Noble, (commute/sprint/hillclimb/speedtrial/trackday/LM runs) but its just too special to us to swap... guess we'll just save up more then expand the fleet eh?..

[stillgrinning]

sjc said:

stillgrinning said:

They are designed to do completely different things and it is a pointless exercise trying to compare them on a blank sheet of paper. If you play golf there is no point in buying a Noble as your main car, if you want fantastic handling through fast corners and a very strange noise when you change gear then there is no point buying a TVR, if you don't want to sweat buckets every time the sun comes out (or you want to hang out of the window and wave at your friends) then there is no point in driving a Noble. If you want interesting paint then don't buy a Noble. If you don't care about comfortable seats then buy a Noble. Noble for the track, TVR for most other things.

It's like comparing a Ferrari and a Corvette - pointless.

If you want your roof to fly off at any time buy the TVR (especially the Tuscan)
If you want that feeling of " how long have my chocolate finger followers got" buy any 6 cyl TVR.
If you play golf, don't buy a TVR either as invarably you won't be able to get in the boot anyway. For the record a set of clubs fit happily in the passenger seat of the Noble, and in any case golf equals so don't take either.
Oh and my air-con works fine, and the M400 seats are comfy for me at 6ft 4".
If you want one of the quickest in a straight line ( nutty or track cars excepted),one of the quickest in the twisties ( with a good driver, I'm not!)and one of the most entertaining cars this side of £100K buy the Noble.
And I use my M400 everyday, something I never ever considered in my 2 Griffiths, Cerbera or Tuscan.
Other than that StillGrinning I think we agree on everything!

Oh, I give up what's the point.

Is this same thread on the TVR forum ? I don't suppose they are any less one eyed over there either.

[pbsaxman]

stillgrinning said:

sjc said:

stillgrinning said:

They are designed to do completely different things and it is a pointless exercise trying to compare them on a blank sheet of paper. If you play golf there is no point in buying a Noble as your main car, if you want fantastic handling through fast corners and a very strange noise when you change gear then there is no point buying a TVR, if you don't want to sweat buckets every time the sun comes out (or you want to hang out of the window and wave at your friends) then there is no point in driving a Noble. If you want interesting paint then don't buy a Noble. If you don't care about comfortable seats then buy a Noble. Noble for the track, TVR for most other things.

It's like comparing a Ferrari and a Corvette - pointless.

If you want your roof to fly off at any time buy the TVR (especially the Tuscan)
If you want that feeling of " how long have my chocolate finger followers got" buy any 6 cyl TVR.
If you play golf, don't buy a TVR either as invarably you won't be able to get in the boot anyway. For the record a set of clubs fit happily in the passenger seat of the Noble, and in any case golf equals so don't take either.
Oh and my air-con works fine, and the M400 seats are comfy for me at 6ft 4".
If you want one of the quickest in a straight line ( nutty or track cars excepted),one of the quickest in the twisties ( with a good driver, I'm not!)and one of the most entertaining cars this side of £100K buy the Noble.
And I use my M400 everyday, something I never ever considered in my 2 Griffiths, Cerbera or Tuscan.
Other than that StillGrinning I think we agree on everything!

Oh, I give up what's the point.

Is this same thread on the TVR forum ? I don't suppose they are any less one eyed over there either.

I wouldn't say the comments on hear are one eyed at all. Most of those commenting have owned Cerbs or other TVR's and so can comment from personal experience. I note you own a Red Rose. Nice looking car but when I drove one I couldn't wait to get back in my M400!! That may be one eyed to you but its fact from me And as to the Sagaris don't even get me started.
Fortunately we don't all like the same cars but please don't accuse us of being one eyed just because we like our chosen chariot as you, I am sure like yours.

PS What the hell does one eyed mean anyway

[MadMacMcMad]

DLGULES
There is a very good chance that the opinions on this forum are a tad biased, that's mainly due to us being right. But that aside, the best way to find the car for you is to get in a few and have a go.
You will find that you will be on this forum more than the TVR one in future tho.

If you are in the Berks area, you are welcome to have a play in mine.

[sjc]

stillgrinning said:

sjc said:

stillgrinning said:

They are designed to do completely different things and it is a pointless exercise trying to compare them on a blank sheet of paper. If you play golf there is no point in buying a Noble as your main car, if you want fantastic handling through fast corners and a very strange noise when you change gear then there is no point buying a TVR, if you don't want to sweat buckets every time the sun comes out (or you want to hang out of the window and wave at your friends) then there is no point in driving a Noble. If you want interesting paint then don't buy a Noble. If you don't care about comfortable seats then buy a Noble. Noble for the track, TVR for most other things.

It's like comparing a Ferrari and a Corvette - pointless.

If you want your roof to fly off at any time buy the TVR (especially the Tuscan)
If you want that feeling of " how long have my chocolate finger followers got" buy any 6 cyl TVR.
If you play golf, don't buy a TVR either as invarably you won't be able to get in the boot anyway. For the record a set of clubs fit happily in the passenger seat of the Noble, and in any case golf equals so don't take either.
Oh and my air-con works fine, and the M400 seats are comfy for me at 6ft 4".
If you want one of the quickest in a straight line ( nutty or track cars excepted),one of the quickest in the twisties ( with a good driver, I'm not!)and one of the most entertaining cars this side of £100K buy the Noble.
And I use my M400 everyday, something I never ever considered in my 2 Griffiths, Cerbera or Tuscan.
Other than that StillGrinning I think we agree on everything!

Oh, I give up what's the point.

Is this same thread on the TVR forum ? I don't suppose they are any less one eyed over there either.

So having had 4 TVRs but preferring the 2 Nobles I've had makes me one eyed? If putting my money where my mouth was( deposit on a Cerby October 1994 whilst already having my 2nd TVR on order)then maybe at the time I was TVR one eyed! I bought the TVRS because at the time (but much less so in recent years) they were the only option that offered performance,character and rarity for the money.The Noble at a stroke simply moved the game on in that market segment. Not one eyed,just fact I'm afraid.