*** Speedline Wheels Buying Group ***
Discussion
You're right, though I don't know...
Hmmm.. I bought a radiator used by David Pike (an user of this forum) and i know ivoxxx, another user of this forum that live here in italy.
I also know Key750, the user who sold the car to "Wheeler Dealer".
P.s. I think to pay me with PayPal, which should be a guarantee.
Hmmm.. I bought a radiator used by David Pike (an user of this forum) and i know ivoxxx, another user of this forum that live here in italy.
I also know Key750, the user who sold the car to "Wheeler Dealer".
P.s. I think to pay me with PayPal, which should be a guarantee.
Evo2aGTO said:
The wheels pictured on the blue Noble above are not speedlines. My car.
They look similar here, but not so in the flesh/metal.
You can get mine in Gold (FB page mentioned above) - single order, no problem, but not at these prices.
This group buy is certainly a great value deal (note price includes VAT!). Great work, best of luck.
Incredible... even when you tell me I can hardly tell the difference. Upper part of the Speedline spokes are thinner than on your wheels. As you say, on the picture, the difference is marginal.They look similar here, but not so in the flesh/metal.
You can get mine in Gold (FB page mentioned above) - single order, no problem, but not at these prices.
This group buy is certainly a great value deal (note price includes VAT!). Great work, best of luck.
Thanks anyway and sorry I have misused 😉 your car.
Leo
daddysumo said:
Ok this has to be said as a few people here have mentioned it to me..
To The OP.. please don't take this personally and I would hope you understand the following...
I/We personally do not know the OP who is arranging this group buy, so can anyone else vouch for him please, as some of us do feel a bit
vulnerable sending £1k to a guy in Italy that no one knows, who's friend will then get them for us.
If an order proposal, confirmation of order and paid invoice are available then it would put a few worried minds at rest..
Steve
Good point and I already thought of the "safety" aspect, too.To The OP.. please don't take this personally and I would hope you understand the following...
I/We personally do not know the OP who is arranging this group buy, so can anyone else vouch for him please, as some of us do feel a bit
vulnerable sending £1k to a guy in Italy that no one knows, who's friend will then get them for us.
If an order proposal, confirmation of order and paid invoice are available then it would put a few worried minds at rest..
Steve
I was thinking of collecting them personally in Italy, as I am sometimes in the area.
Real name and an address and proof of ID could help as well.
Sad we all have to be cautious but I guess the OP can understand...
Leo (still interested)
GO LEO said:
Incredible... even when you tell me I can hardly tell the difference. Upper part of the Speedline spokes are thinner than on your wheels. As you say, on the picture, the difference is marginal.
Thanks anyway and sorry I have misused ?? your car.
Leo
No worries re picture GO LEO, its on FB page after all! A picture to help show what I mean. Group Buy is mega CHEAP...bargain. You need to add VAT to those numbers for my wheels to get close!Thanks anyway and sorry I have misused ?? your car.
Leo
Please don't take this the wrong way cgoucg but right now money is disappearing all over the place with people having trusted people they don't know. It is just too risky, more so as the instances where people do lose any money are wholly and utterly convincing/believable. The greater chance cgoucg is that you are wholly genuine and that everything will work out okay, but its foolish to think there is no element of risk at all. You have to proceed on that basis (that there is a slight risk). It doesn't even have to be dishonest, what happens if you are ill or injured in between making the order and dispatching the wheels, or before you even make the order? What if you desperately need the money for something else and you fully intend to replace it, but it's not possible? What if their is a disagreement with the factory? What if your friend is not as reliable as you genuinely believe he is? Having no records/paperwork as to what is going on is asking for trouble should any kind of dispute occur.
Also do not rely on PayPal. In this instance sending money to an individual, even if you mark is as payment for goods (never use the gift tab) will not protect you against an item that is not as described, only against non delivery. However even the latter is elementary, you only have to show a signed delivery note online (a tracking number) and that is as far as PayPal will get involved. So if someone sends you a brick the case is closed. They have recently tried to get around this by checking the weight declared for items sent, but the dishonorable people out there soon adjusted to take account of that.
Very tricky all round, I know you need the money to make the order, but people would like to have the wheels before they pay! Or it has to be more official. Pay the factory with PayPal for instance provides much better protection.
Also do not rely on PayPal. In this instance sending money to an individual, even if you mark is as payment for goods (never use the gift tab) will not protect you against an item that is not as described, only against non delivery. However even the latter is elementary, you only have to show a signed delivery note online (a tracking number) and that is as far as PayPal will get involved. So if someone sends you a brick the case is closed. They have recently tried to get around this by checking the weight declared for items sent, but the dishonorable people out there soon adjusted to take account of that.
Very tricky all round, I know you need the money to make the order, but people would like to have the wheels before they pay! Or it has to be more official. Pay the factory with PayPal for instance provides much better protection.
cdhoole said:
Please don't take this the wrong way cgoucg but right now money is disappearing all over the place with people having trusted people they don't know. It is just too risky, more so as the instances where people do lose any money are wholly and utterly convincing/believable. The greater chance cgoucg is that you are wholly genuine and that everything will work out okay, but its foolish to think there is no element of risk at all. You have to proceed on that basis (that there is a slight risk). It doesn't even have to be dishonest, what happens if you are ill or injured in between making the order and dispatching the wheels, or before you even make the order? What if you desperately need the money for something else and you fully intend to replace it, but it's not possible? What if their is a disagreement with the factory? What if your friend is not as reliable as you genuinely believe he is? Having no records/paperwork as to what is going on is asking for trouble should any kind of dispute occur.
Also do not rely on PayPal. In this instance sending money to an individual, even if you mark is as payment for goods (never use the gift tab) will not protect you against an item that is not as described, only against non delivery. However even the latter is elementary, you only have to show a signed delivery note online (a tracking number) and that is as far as PayPal will get involved. So if someone sends you a brick the case is closed. They have recently tried to get around this by checking the weight declared for items sent, but the dishonorable people out there soon adjusted to take account of that.
Very tricky all round, I know you need the money to make the order, but people would like to have the wheels before they pay! Or it has to be more official. Pay the factory with PayPal for instance provides much better protection.
Very well written that
Also do not rely on PayPal. In this instance sending money to an individual, even if you mark is as payment for goods (never use the gift tab) will not protect you against an item that is not as described, only against non delivery. However even the latter is elementary, you only have to show a signed delivery note online (a tracking number) and that is as far as PayPal will get involved. So if someone sends you a brick the case is closed. They have recently tried to get around this by checking the weight declared for items sent, but the dishonorable people out there soon adjusted to take account of that.
Very tricky all round, I know you need the money to make the order, but people would like to have the wheels before they pay! Or it has to be more official. Pay the factory with PayPal for instance provides much better protection.
Very well written that
I am still interested and have asked the OP to share real name, address, copy of ID and proof of Noble ownership with me (via PM).
Would recommend everyone interested to do the same.
After all, the risk is as high or maybe lower than buying something from someone unknown via the big auction website.
Hope we get this going, Leo
Would recommend everyone interested to do the same.
After all, the risk is as high or maybe lower than buying something from someone unknown via the big auction website.
Hope we get this going, Leo
The big auction web site (BAWS)is actually a very safe place to buy and now a more dangerous place to sell.
Talking of which I did think you could list each set of wheels on the BAWS (full description and postage cost) and a picture of a wheel from one of the existing cars, so it is very clear what you are buying, each interested party could buy a set and then you are very well covered indeed under both the BAWS's buyer protection in addition to PayPal. Because it is an BAWS listing you will be covered for item not as described and non delivery. So if you receive a brick that's okay, item not as described will cover you (or more usefully if a wheel is damaged). Furthermore funds can be paid in advance of the wheels being ordered, the time limit for lodging a complaint is 45 days on the BAWS and longer on PayPal (note you cannot do both).
I didn't suggest it however because the BAWS charge a fee of 10% of the selling price now, but then perhaps it is worth it so that cgoucg can get the money in advance, which is what he needs, and all of the buyers are protected?
ps there could be one other problem, if you were to set a new BAWS identity and/or PayPal they will withhold the money until positive feedback is left. It would therefore depend on cgoucg having an existing account with some history.
Talking of which I did think you could list each set of wheels on the BAWS (full description and postage cost) and a picture of a wheel from one of the existing cars, so it is very clear what you are buying, each interested party could buy a set and then you are very well covered indeed under both the BAWS's buyer protection in addition to PayPal. Because it is an BAWS listing you will be covered for item not as described and non delivery. So if you receive a brick that's okay, item not as described will cover you (or more usefully if a wheel is damaged). Furthermore funds can be paid in advance of the wheels being ordered, the time limit for lodging a complaint is 45 days on the BAWS and longer on PayPal (note you cannot do both).
I didn't suggest it however because the BAWS charge a fee of 10% of the selling price now, but then perhaps it is worth it so that cgoucg can get the money in advance, which is what he needs, and all of the buyers are protected?
ps there could be one other problem, if you were to set a new BAWS identity and/or PayPal they will withhold the money until positive feedback is left. It would therefore depend on cgoucg having an existing account with some history.
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