!!One less Noble on the Road

[mgbond]

..I suspect I may do a little 'paying' for a while!! Mind you protected no claims discount so we'll see!!! This will be the test of just how good this Ins Co are!

Sorry to add more bad news Pete but it's a con! Mine was protected no claims - still doubled from £650 to £1300. Still got full no claims tho...

Sorry to here the news.

Just want to clear this one up.

The NCB is a percentage of what they will charge you, so If you have an accident they will load your premium but you will still get the total NCB percentage off of this new premium..

Bondy

[Heebeegeetee]

pbsaxman said:

An interesting view point as it makes a number of assumptions. I would say even in those conditions overtaking at about 45 in a NSL is by no means 'lairy'.

I didn't say the conditions were lairy.

pbsaxman said:

I suspect the driving qualifications and experience I have outweigh many who drive supposed 'lairy cars' and it did me no good at all.

I don't know you at all and made no comment on your experiences or qualifications

pbsaxman said:

Up here the farmers are not supposed to leave the roads covered in mud and if they do it MUST be signed so the poor old bloke who was nowhere near the scene at the time just might have caused the accident by not taking more care in the same way I did by driving over it at the obviously reckless speed of 45mph!

Er, i'll have to check back but i thought you weren't blaming the mud. And the thing is of course, if the mud was to blame, where were the other crashed cars and how come the girl drove over it without a problem? But i didn't apportion any blame, god knows i have no right to do so and that's not what my post was about about.

pbsaxman said:

As to females being more affected than blokes b*ll*cks!!! What are you some sort of closet Psychologist!! After 30 years in the fire service I've seen the reaction of them all and believe me there's very little difference!

Fair enough, just going by the shunts i've seen, where the blokes get out and argue, and the girls, who were not affected in any way, burst into tears, and literally go into shock. In fact i think thats what we saw on that m'way cops programme tonight.

pbsaxman said:

Yes I am truly gutted at what happened. I was the first person to render assistance despite being involved and along with another off duty fireman I think she got the best immediate care available.

She and her family will be deeply shocked hey. What about me and mine? Yes she was the innocent party but that doesn't make her shock any more real than mine or my families.

Very magnanimous of you.

pbsaxman said:

I think you maybe have a bit of a one eyed view of all this so should pull your horns in and piss of back where you came from!

I have already said I'm devastated by this. I am even considering selling my car once it is fixed because of how I feel about this young woman. What I don't need is some holier than though prat coming on here spouting about things he very obviously knows nothing about!!

I still say i wasn't aware i'd expressed any view on you or anything about you, so i don't see how i've been self righteous. I'd just said that we all need to take care.

I'm sorry you've taken it this way and i hadn't meant to offend you at all.

The reason i was alarmed, was because of a thread some time back where a guy had hit the car he was overtaking, and in all the posts of commiseration not one expressed any sympathy whatsoever for the person they'd hit. In this case, the OP waited until well into his second post before he mentioned that he'd rolled a girl over and injured her. he'd told us about the damage o his car before that.

Other people read these threads. People from Brake and such like, people who would dearly like to take our freedoms away from us, and they use this stuff against us, it has been done before.

So, peeps, we need to think about what we're doing, and that means me as well. Next time i'm out on the muddy lanes i'll remember this thread and remember to take care.

Edited by Heebeegeetee on Monday 14th January 23:53

[Heebeegeetee]

V6GTO said:

Heebeegeetee said:

I then got annoyed at the suggestion that the accident was the fault of some hard working bloke who was nowhere near the scene at the time.

So you got annoyed at me did you? For asking a simple question about something I've seen dozens of times? Take you annoyance and shove where the sun don't shine sonny! Pr1ck.

Yes, i got annoyed, as i do every time someone blames somebody else. perhaps we've got a different sense of self responsibility. No, the OP didn't try to blame someone else, but you did.

Look, us road rallyists need that mud on the country roads, its why we go to the country and its what makes life there such fun. If you (as in you, not the OP) can't deal with a bit of mud, don't go to the countryside, stay somewhere nice and safe and sterile.

That mud that you're so quick to blame, is the same mud that millions don't have a problem with. We're supposed to be enthusiastic drivers, we like to regard ourselves better than the masses, but if the masses can drive over the mud and we can't, how do we support our claims?

But i am aware that when the temperature drops to near freezing, the mud does become very slippery indeed. Its just for myself, i'm not so divorced from reality that i'm going to expect farmers to work the land without getting the roads around that land just a bit dirty. It would be totally preposterous to think of such a thing.

[D_G]

Heebee,

Are you any relation to the 2priests guy, because you deffo speak from the same rectal area....??

[AMG Merc]

IMHO, HBGT has posted nothing that deserved the two (three now!) unnecessarily aggressive postings he received back to his fair and resonable comments. I hope this is not a case of "here we go again" with attacking people who come on here to express their views and beliefs - remember the purpose for a forum of communication. Also note that he has not posted insults to anyone (unlike some)!

Edited by AMG Merc on Tuesday 15th January 08:49

[Heebeegeetee]

D_G said:

Heebee,

Are you any relation to the 2priests guy, because you deffo speak from the same rectal area....??

Ok, but its the rectal area for you but first hand experience for me. And i don't know who 2priests is.

Look, very often on PH, when someone comes on and tells about a prang he's had, some banker will immediately spring up and tell the OP that he's a tt and can't drive. Can i just say that that's not what my intention was, totally far from it, not what i was saying at all. I'm sorry if that's what it looks like i've done, but put that down to my inability with the english language, its no more than that. I would have thought that a quick peek at some of my previous posts would show that i'm not the sort of guy who does that.

I'm grateful that people post honestly, we can all learn from others experiences. It is a shame though that people respond so aggressively whenever they they read something into a post that wasn't intended, but maybe that's just revealing a personality trait.

The person who did this is the same person who immediately wanted to blame a farmer for his pals demise. V6, i can only say that i just *hate* this blame culture, that somebody somewhere must be to blame. Have you not noticed the weather these last few days? We've had a spot of rain, right? I drove from Lichfield to Lincoln on saturday and passed countless fields under water. This water often flows onto the lanes, carrying the mud and crap with it. Who do want to blame for that? The council, for not sending fleets of road sweepers out between showers?

[Adrian W]

AMG Merc said:

IMHO, HBGT has posted nothing that deserved the two (three now!) unnecessarily aggressive postings he received back to his fair and resonable comments. I hope this is not a case of "here we go again" with attacking people who come on here to express their views and beliefs - remember the purpose for a forum of communication. Also note that he has not posted insults to anyone (unlike some)!

Edited by AMG Merc on Tuesday 15th January 08:49

My point was the timing of his comments

[Heebeegeetee]

Adrian W said:

AMG Merc said:

IMHO, HBGT has posted nothing that deserved the two (three now!) unnecessarily aggressive postings he received back to his fair and resonable comments. I hope this is not a case of "here we go again" with attacking people who come on here to express their views and beliefs - remember the purpose for a forum of communication. Also note that he has not posted insults to anyone (unlike some)!

Edited by AMG Merc on Tuesday 15th January 08:49

My point was the timing of his comments

I apologise for that.

[pbsaxman]

Right guys.

Hee bee maybe I misunderstood your comments, perhaps I was still in a state of shock over the albeit minor injuries I had caused to an innocent person and the major disruption it will cause to her life without her car which WILL I am sure be written off! All I can say is I hope thr ins Co's are prompt at sorting it out! I apologise if I've raised some ruffled feathers and I only responded because there seemed to be assumptions made in many areas which were not acurate. I didn't and don't want this post to turn into a slanging match although from my post last night you wouldn't know it. As I say I apologise for that, put it down to shock!

My first and only concerns are for the innocent victim in this, the young lady. The reason by the way that she didn't skid on the mud was twofold. One she wasn't really accelerating, which is what led to me overtaking her and two the mud was on the overtaking side of the road which I was on not her! It also looks like it was caused by people driving off the marked road onto the verge and dragging mud back onto the road.

Please don't get into an argument with each other on my account. The accident was one of those things.

I apologise for any offence given and will delete my post of last night forthwith.

Take care out there all of you

Peter

Edited by pbsaxman on Tuesday 15th January 11:08

[Heebeegeetee]

pbsaxman said:

Right guys.

Hee bee maybe I misunderstood your comments, perhaps I was still in a state of shock etc.

Peter

That's fully understandable and i appreciate that.

I'm sorry i seemed to have caused so much trouble at an awkward time!

Take care, all.

[NobleGuy]

mgbond said:

The NCB is a percentage of what they will charge you, so If you have an accident they will load your premium but you will still get the total NCB percentage off of this new premium..

Completely right. They will still increase your premium but then apply the same discount percentage to that new premium. My dad couldn't get his head round this when I totalled mine and tried to explain the fact the insurance had increased - luckily mine only went up by about £100 a year (£1000 to £1100) with Direct Line.

[V6GTO]

Heebeegeetee said:

Yes, i got annoyed, as i do every time someone blames somebody else. perhaps we've got a different sense of self responsibility. No, the OP didn't try to blame someone else, but you did.

And just how do you mix up my asking if a farmer had left mud on the road, with making an accusation that a farmer had left mud on the road? If you think I made an accusation, go back and read my post again. When people put a ? on the end of a sentence it means they are asking a question. It would serve you well to read and understand posts properly if you are going to make smart 4rse, holier than though replies. Pr1ck.

Edited by V6GTO on Tuesday 15th January 12:10

[V6GTO]

AMG Merc said:

IMHO, HBGT has posted nothing that deserved the two (three now!) unnecessarily aggressive postings he received back to his fair and resonable comments. I hope this is not a case of "here we go again" with attacking people who come on here to express their views and beliefs - remember the purpose for a forum of communication. Also note that he has not posted insults to anyone (unlike some)!

Edited by AMG Merc on Tuesday 15th January 08:49

Rob,
He accused me of blaming a farmer for the accident...I didn't. I'll have a pop at any self-ritious prick who doesn't read my post properly then has a go at me.

Martin.

[Lakelord]

Oh! And there was me thinking all the toys were back in the pram and fully accounted for

[Heebeegeetee]

V6GTO said:

Heebeegeetee said:

Yes, i got annoyed, as i do every time someone blames somebody else. perhaps we've got a different sense of self responsibility. No, the OP didn't try to blame someone else, but you did.

And just how do you mix up my asking if a farmer had left mud on the road, with making an accusation that a farmer had left mud on the road? If you think I made an accusation, go back and read my post again. When people put a ? on the end of a sentence it means they are asking a question. It would serve you well to read and understand posts properly if you are going to make smart 4rse, holier than though replies. Pr1ck.

Edited by V6GTO on Tuesday 15th January 12:10

Er, go back and read my first post. I used a ? too.

I was only asking a question too, but you didn't half go off on one.

[V6GTO]

Heebeegeetee said:

V6GTO said:

Heebeegeetee said:

Yes, i got annoyed, as i do every time someone blames somebody else. perhaps we've got a different sense of self responsibility. No, the OP didn't try to blame someone else, but you did.

And just how do you mix up my asking if a farmer had left mud on the road, with making an accusation that a farmer had left mud on the road? If you think I made an accusation, go back and read my post again. When people put a ? on the end of a sentence it means they are asking a question. It would serve you well to read and understand posts properly if you are going to make smart 4rse, holier than though replies. Pr1ck.

Edited by V6GTO on Tuesday 15th January 12:10

Er, go back and read my first post. I used a ? too.

I was only asking a question too, but you didn't half go off on one.

What, this piece of 100% sarcasm?

Heebeegeetee said:

'Course it is. Couldn't be the fault of the person driving the car, could it?

And where is the ? in this sentance?

Heebeegeetee said:

I then got annoyed at the suggestion that the accident was the fault of some hard working bloke who was nowhere near the scene at the time.

Or this one?

Heebeegeetee said:

Yes, i got annoyed, as i do every time someone blames somebody else. perhaps we've got a different sense of self responsibility. No, the OP didn't try to blame someone else, but you did.

Prick.

[NickyTwoHats]

This is nearly as good as "that" 2priests ... come on girls get the mud pool out and make some noise!

Pistonheads is back!

[alex s]

[Heebeegeetee]

V6GTO said:

Heebeegeetee said:

'Course it is. Couldn't be the fault of the person driving the car, could it?

And where is the ? in this sentance?

Is it me?

V6GTO said:

Prick.

Oh well. Takes one to know one.

Edited by Heebeegeetee on Tuesday 15th January 13:47

[V6GTO]

Heebeegeetee said:

V6GTO said:

Prick.

Oh well. Takes one to know one.

Is that the best you can manage?

You've been shot down in flames for talking bollox and all you manage is "It takes one to know one" You should have just gone away quietly and crawled under a rock...this thread would have been forgotten in a week...now you'll be remembered as "Pr1ck" forever.