New rear led lights and deffusers for Noble

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Just to get the ball rolling, I have been in contact with Neil from Adrenaline Motors with regards to the manufacturing of the rear lights for replacement (the guy who helped develop the latest Marcos lights now works for Neil). He is confident that they can make them for less then the Noblemods price ie £350-£400 for the pair. I have also talked to him about making some rear under-tray deffusers and that would be no problem. If anyone would be willing to allow us to borrow one a make a mould, that would be great, would save time and expense. Also if there are any other items we could look at, let me know i.e. the front splitter, rear spoiler etc etc. Like I said this is just to get the ball rolling and to get a feel for the response and feedback. I’m hoping to get down to meet Neil with my car next Saturday so any ideas would be welcome.

Cheers

Paul

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art411y said:

the rear splitter is so easy and cheap to do guys.takes no more than a morning to sort

Artie, would you be willing to "loan" the use of one so we could get a mould or have you stuck yours on??. I am looking at using the same design, can then be stuck or screwed in place. As far as front splitter Kevin, what did you have in mind. Do you have a picture of a car with the type of splitter you would like. The more info I can take with me the better!!

Paul

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Thanks Mr M, yes-this weekend all being well!!!!! As far as the rear defussers I would suggest we go for the noblemod type with the glue/screw method of fixing in place.

Paul

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art411y said:

as ive said before i do have 2 sets of the american rear lights same as the hyundia sonata.my car is for sale and really dont want to do the mod till i am settled with another noble.ive had a word with my fibreglass guy and the outcome is no problem apart from a little cutting of the clam.i already have a few sets of the backcovers ready to fit.we estimate 2 days off and on to complete including painting.

The replacement lights I've got planned would be a straight replacement, (as long as the new light units fit the depth the old units will leave once removed), so no body work required....hopefully!!!!....money saved....£150-£200. Like Artie I've gone for the side scoops (no mesh though??)paid around £82 then around £65 to spray. I suspect Neil could copy these, would we be treading on Noble's toes if we had a look at what we could get Neil to manufacture them for if we had enough interest????. The rear lights on the new M600, are they two light clusters or three. The proto-type car seems to have three, the finished artical two, is this correct??. If it is two, its this style I would try to match.

Paul

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So far we have for Neil to look into this coming Saturday,

1)Rear led light fittings, grp or carbon-fibre
2)Rear deffussers
3)Front racing splitter grp or carbon-fibre
4)Side scoops as above
5)Rear wing as above

If there is anything else we could/should be looking at, ideas or pictures, please list.

Cheers

Paul

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Dropped down to www.adrenalinemotorsport.co.uk (featured in the same Autocar edition as the new Noble M600, few pages away) today to see about the rear lights etc etc. The lights can be on budget full LED or part LED, can be GRP or Carbon Fiber. Tom did a quick CAD drawing for me while sat in their office just to give us an idea.

The cost is simple…the more people we can sign up the cheaper the cost. The making of the molding is quite expensive so we would need to-do a run of at least 14 pairs, same goes for the other parts. I feel the things we could justify would be the lights, rear diffusers small front splitter and possible the side scoops.


It just so happens that the company is relocating to new premises very soon so wouldn’t be able to give prices on the parts other than the lights until they have settled into the new building. Hoping to have an idea on price for lights very soon.


This is the first idea on the drawing, this shows, LED brake (can be made to flash when braking….Ford GT style) normal side light, indicator, reverse, fog and reflector. As I said this can be made full LED but is around £90 per pair more expensive………..what do you all think???

Sod it!! after all that I can't upload. Its on a PDF file, any ideas how I upload one of these please

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Thanks for the help guys, ok this is the first drawing as I've said, just a quick drawing. Note that these lights unlike Moblemods will have built in fog and reverse (both sides the same, this is another saving over the old lights, and is alot smarter) The finish will be black, the same as the rear black section on the Noble. I have also posted a thread on the Marcos forum, but it seems a little dead??... Anyway, what do you think, I feel its close to the finished item:



We have (as standard and from left hand side) outer ring- brake LED, inner- indicator, lower- reverse, upper outer ring- refector, inner- side-light, lower- fog.

Paul

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Gadgeroonie said:

i'd like

rear lights
a front splitter
a set of cannards (can he do them too ?)

They can make anything you like. Only trouble being if the mould costs £600 to make inc labour and we can get 10 people to buy, we've £60 cost each before product cost, but these guys do seem keen so once they have settled into their new factory, I'll see what they think. For now, just working on the rear lights.

Paul

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Twerlie said:

wessexrfc said:

IMHO they look a bit busy! I think it would be better to have one reverse light in one cluster and one fog light in the other? Like these?

Twerlie, have you got a better photo of these lights that I can email Adrenaline

Thanks

Paul

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Twerlie said:

wessexrfc said:

Twerlie, have you got a better photo of these lights that I can email Adrenaline

Thanks

Paul

These any good?

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Talking to the guys at Adrenaline, Perspex is a real pain in the arse - (they steam/condensate up). If Audi can't get it right, what chance have we. The lights are designed to be exposed and the GRP/carbon would be moulded to the original shape of the light, not the perspex. I have emailed Adrenaline the photos of Twerlies lights and will ring them this week to see that they think.

Paul

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We would be starting from scratch as far as design, so we have no template bar the original lights to work from. There were two sorts of lights available for Noble cars, (correct me if I'm wrong), the first was the Marcos lights with the perspex covers. These had reverse and fog lights built into the units, I have no idea on the old price for these made by Marcos engineering, (nolonger trading, one of the guys that helped Marcos put together the lights will be working on this project), these required a gig fitted to the rear clam and the body cut to fit. Then you had Noblemobs, (who now seemed to had ceased trading), these were exposed lights, with no fog or reverse lights, they had to be fitted as an addition.

What we are trying to product is a cost effective good looking light that will last and can be fitted as a straight replacement i.e - no cutting into the GRP to make it fit or additional lights and fitting required.

HTH

Paul

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Up-date.....sorry for delay!!

Ok just spoken to Adrenaline Motorsports, good news, they have come up with a price of £400 a pair (not sure of VAT) plus paint if colour coded wanted.

The factory have asked that the design is confirmed so, if people can give their preference on what design we should go for that would be great(the choice is the diagram is the one I came up with, with reverse and fogs in each unit, the picture is the Noblemods/Marcos) If someone has the know how, could we start a list so I have the design preference and those who would be interested @ £400 a pair. The more we order the better the price, so if anyone knows anyone with a Noble who doesn't go one this site or any Marcos owners, could you give them a tap!!(I've posted on the Marcos PH site, but its like a ghost town)

Many thanks

Paul

Edited by wessexrfc on Friday 2nd October 14:21

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In all seriousness tho, will the manufacturers either hold spares or be able to produce them on an adhoc basis? I'm just considering how easy they will be to source in the event someone rear-ends the car?
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The light units will be "off the shelf" options, so if bulb goes etc, not a problem. They will keep some stock as they will produce them in batches. There is no guarantee that they will have one if you have an accident, but I'm sure they would try to make sure they have.

Also on the list could we add Full LED Plus £80 Part LED(as Marcos/Noblemods) Also Flashing brake lights Plus ?? (not that much-like Ford GT style) Hope this makes sense !!!

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jamie g said:

is the noblemods type an option? Or is that the new type?

Page 3 will show you the different types, Noblemods would be single fog/single reverse light(old type)

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Speaking to the factory, they could start straight away. They needed to know the preference on design, but it would seem there is no clear preference. I will use my car as the "research" car and use it to take photos etc. The quality should be spot-on if their own car the Murtaya is anything to go on http://adrenalinemotorsport.co.uk/. Just need to get afeel for the numbers, the last time this was attempted I think we got to around 23ish. Hoping this is going to be a bit more successful

Paul

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elenitro said:

Is a perspex cover def off the cards?

Why would you want the perspex???, as we have said if Audi can't stop theirs from fogging, we don't stand much of a chance of clear lights in wet conditions !!!

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daddysumo said:

wessexrfc said:

elenitro said:

Is a perspex cover def off the cards?

Why would you want the perspex???, as we have said if Audi can't stop theirs from fogging, we don't stand much of a chance of clear lights in wet conditions !!!

Because they look the best IMHO !

Still don't get it?? the lights will be the shape of the old lights as far as outer/surface shape is concerned iow the lights will follow the contours of the rear end and won't be set back like the old ones. I feel with the Perspex it will give it a dated look, without would bring it up to date with the M600 look IMO. The subject was brought up with the factory and they advised against due to the fogging problems, we need to take their advice to get the best results. We will never please everyone, but I think it will be a great improvement over the ford effort!!

Paul

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Just browsing through the classifieds I came across this blue 3R for sale, (very cheap BTW) noticed it had after-market rear lights that I didn’t recognize. I was hoping to find a rear view picture to get a better idea of what they looked like, but basically this is how we would propose doing ours (but better molded to the lines of the car) The colour would, as standard match the black of the rear mesh, but could be colour coded by the factory if required.

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mrdemon said:

My new car

will take some pics for you.

Thought they were the Noble Mods lights


Loving the car though was very very well kept.

Edited by mrdemon on Monday 5th October 00:48

If you could post some on this thread, that would be good,car looks great Batman!!!