Cybertruck LMFAO

Cybertruck LMFAO

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durbster

10,305 posts

224 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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It is a fascinating project and has more hype than pretty much anything else.

The claims like it'll be bulletproof and able to drive on water are obviously ridiculous but it all adds to the circus, and somehow makes it more compelling to see which of its many claimed features will turn out to be true.

For that reason I think they'll easily sell all they make, but partly because they won't be able to ramp up production so there won't be many to buy.

Puzzles

1,913 posts

113 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Indestructible car built for war zones, laser blade lights, laser wipers, can be used as a boat, rear wheel steer, active ride height and self levelling, under 2 secs to 60, starting under 40k

AW111

9,674 posts

135 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Puzzles said:
Indestructible car built for war zones, laser blade lights, laser wipers, can be used as a boat, rear wheel steer, active ride height and self levelling, under 2 secs to 60, starting under 40k
This thread is about the cybertruck that's being sold now, not Musk's sales pitch.

No laser wipers.
I'll be amazed if it can be used as a boat without voiding the warranty.
Starting price is way over 40k.

Puzzles

1,913 posts

113 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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AW111 said:
This thread is about the cybertruck that's being sold now, not Musk's sales pitch.

No laser wipers.
I'll be amazed if it can be used as a boat without voiding the warranty.
Starting price is way over 40k.
That sales pitch is probably what got all those £100/$100 reservation fees.

Lefty

16,221 posts

204 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Anyone know the GVW?

EmailAddress

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12,258 posts

220 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Lefty said:
Anyone know the GVW?
2700-3200kg

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12,258 posts

220 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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FourWheelDrift

88,722 posts

286 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Nope, I can still see it.

AW111

9,674 posts

135 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Puzzles said:
AW111 said:
This thread is about the cybertruck that's being sold now, not Musk's sales pitch.

No laser wipers.
I'll be amazed if it can be used as a boat without voiding the warranty.
Starting price is way over 40k.
That sales pitch is probably what got all those £100/$100 reservation fees.
There's little doubt about that.

AW111

9,674 posts

135 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Can you imagine what the tacky customisers could do with that?
Start with a gold wrap, and go on from there...

TikTak

1,587 posts

21 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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AW111 said:
EmailAddress said:


Can you imagine what the tacky customisers could do with that?
Start with a gold wrap, and go on from there...
Big flat bits to advertise your local manure business?

Call 1-800-POOPS

Chipper

1,351 posts

219 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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AW111 said:
Tesla's software isn't exactly class-leading.

There are several auto makers with better self-driving that Tesla's beta effort.
Alright, let’s put Tesla’s self-driving to the test. Show me a manufacturer that’s got better self-driving tech.

AW111

9,674 posts

135 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Chipper said:
AW111 said:
Tesla's software isn't exactly class-leading.

There are several auto makers with better self-driving that Tesla's beta effort.
Alright, let’s put Tesla’s self-driving to the test. Show me a manufacturer that’s got better self-driving tech.
Mercedes for one.

Hans_Gruber

275 posts

173 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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AW111 said:
Chipper said:
AW111 said:
Tesla's software isn't exactly class-leading.

There are several auto makers with better self-driving that Tesla's beta effort.
Alright, let’s put Tesla’s self-driving to the test. Show me a manufacturer that’s got better self-driving tech.
Mercedes for one.
You’re right Mercedes have nailed it smile


● It operates only on geofenced, precision mapped, limited access highways
● It operates only at speeds of 40 MPH and below
● It operates only in the same lane—no lane changes
● It operates only with a lead vehicle within 100 meters ahead
● In operates only in clear weather—no rain or snow

If all these conditions are met, Drive Pilot allows the driver to take their hands off the wheel. But they must maintain their gaze on the road ahead or the display screen; no turning aside or around to chat with another passenger, no texting on your phone, etc.
If any of these conditions changes, for example the lead vehicle speeds up to exceed the 100 meter distance limit, the driver is given 10 seconds to take back control. If control is not taken within 10 seconds, the car stops in the lane it's in ; turns on the hazard blinkers; unlocks the doors; and makes an emergency phone call.




Gone fishing

7,260 posts

126 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Hans_Gruber said:
AW111 said:
Chipper said:
AW111 said:
Tesla's software isn't exactly class-leading.

There are several auto makers with better self-driving that Tesla's beta effort.
Alright, let’s put Tesla’s self-driving to the test. Show me a manufacturer that’s got better self-driving tech.
Mercedes for one.
You’re right Mercedes have nailed it smile


? It operates only on geofenced, precision mapped, limited access highways
? It operates only at speeds of 40 MPH and below
? It operates only in the same lane—no lane changes
? It operates only with a lead vehicle within 100 meters ahead
? In operates only in clear weather—no rain or snow

If all these conditions are met, Drive Pilot allows the driver to take their hands off the wheel. But they must maintain their gaze on the road ahead or the display screen; no turning aside or around to chat with another passenger, no texting on your phone, etc.
If any of these conditions changes, for example the lead vehicle speeds up to exceed the 100 meter distance limit, the driver is given 10 seconds to take back control. If control is not taken within 10 seconds, the car stops in the lane it's in ; turns on the hazard blinkers; unlocks the doors; and makes an emergency phone call.
It doesn't operate with those conditions when driving at Level 2, the conditions you quote are the level 3 conditions, agreed with the regulator, insurance companies etc on a "start cautious and then relax the restrictions over time as safety is demonstrated" pathwat. Tesla haven't driven a single mile on Level 3 yet. They have no managed handback to the driver, its just a bong and back to you, and pray you're paying attention.

Tesla don't have a self driving capability, they have a glorified driver assist.

FFS they can't even wipe the windscreen reliably and people think they have great software!

Hans_Gruber

275 posts

173 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Level 2 is not self driving, only level 3 is. The article you attached related to their level 3.

Tesla operates at level 2. You stated Mercedes have a better “self driving” solution. When you dig deeper the conditions they come with are hardly a self driving solution.

So who else has a better “self driving” solution? Why is Mercedes level 2 better than Tesla, or shall we agree they all have their (natural) limitations at level 2? wink

Edited by Hans_Gruber on Monday 20th November 14:26

Chipper

1,351 posts

219 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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AW111 said:
Chipper said:
AW111 said:
Tesla's software isn't exactly class-leading.

There are several auto makers with better self-driving that Tesla's beta effort.
Alright, let’s put Tesla’s self-driving to the test. Show me a manufacturer that’s got better self-driving tech.
Mercedes for one.
Finally, the moment we've been waiting for!

Mercedes claims they've hit Level 3 autonomous driving before Tesla—good for them. But, you gotta wonder, could Tesla have done it sooner? Maybe their Full Self-Driving (FSD) system is just a different beast. I mean, it's all AI stuff, but let's skip that for now because, according to some paper, Mercedes is supposedly the king.

Now, have you looked beyond the headlines at the real deal with Mercedes' Level 3 autonomy?

Hold on, here come the limitations:

1. Drive Pilot decides to take a break at night or when it's raining. A bit of a bummer, but let's brush that off.

2. It only works in specific conditions—slow traffic, under 40 mph, needs a lead car, perfect weather, great road conditions, and mapped-out areas.

Ever checked out Tesla's FSD? Watch Elon's 45-minute live drive and stack it up against Mercedes. The difference is like night and day!

loudlashadjuster

5,212 posts

186 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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Chipper said:
Mercedes claims they've hit Level 3 autonomous driving before Tesla—good for them.
I don't think it's a case of Mercedes "claiming" anything. They have managed to satisfy the various regulatory and insurance bodies that their systems manage SAE L3 and Tesla...haven't.

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12,258 posts

220 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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loudlashadjuster said:
Chipper said:
Mercedes claims they've hit Level 3 autonomous driving before Tesla—good for them.
I don't think it's a case of Mercedes "claiming" anything. They have managed to satisfy the various regulatory and insurance bodies that their systems manage SAE L3 and Tesla...haven't.
Also, Tesla have killed people bodging their way there...

Chipper

1,351 posts

219 months

Monday 20th November 2023
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loudlashadjuster said:
I don't think it's a case of Mercedes "claiming" anything. They have managed to satisfy the various regulatory and insurance bodies that their systems manage SAE L3 and Tesla...haven't.
You are correct however, it's evident that its practical utility is akin to that of a chocolate teapot.