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Oh OK. I know exactly what you mean, having driven both. I thought the Model Y had the suspension sophistication of cars costing half as much. It definitely can't compete with a D segment prestige German brand. The money has gone on the software, battery and stuff like the Octovalve, one of the main reasons why your car is so efficient.
Given the reviews say that the Model 3 Highland refresh is only a bit better in terms of NVH and ride quality over the preceding generation, I don’t hold much hope the Model Y Juniper refresh will be an amazing change. I reckon cheaper cars like the Volvo XC40 will still be much better in terms these qualities. When I test drove that, its NVH and ride quality were like from a car from the class above. My Mrs immediately vetoed the Model Y and that became the top choice.
Given the reviews say that the Model 3 Highland refresh is only a bit better in terms of NVH and ride quality over the preceding generation, I don’t hold much hope the Model Y Juniper refresh will be an amazing change. I reckon cheaper cars like the Volvo XC40 will still be much better in terms these qualities. When I test drove that, its NVH and ride quality were like from a car from the class above. My Mrs immediately vetoed the Model Y and that became the top choice.
Edited by wyson on Sunday 15th October 05:26
wyson said:
Oh OK. I know exactly what you mean, having driven both. I thought the Model Y had the suspension sophistication of cars costing half as much. It definitely can't compete with a D segment prestige German brand. The money has gone on the software, battery and stuff like the Octovalve, one of the main reasons why your car is so efficient.
Given the reviews say that the Model 3 Highland refresh is only a bit better in terms of NVH and ride quality over the preceding generation, I don’t hold much hope the Model Y Juniper refresh will be an amazing change. I reckon cheaper cars like the Volvo XC40 will still be much better in terms these qualities. When I test drove that, its NVH and ride quality were like from a car from the class above. My Mrs immediately vetoed the Model Y and that became the top choice.
For the time being the market has shown that they're prepared to forgo the refinement and relative luxuriousness likes of BMW, Audi, Mercedes, etc in favour of efficiency. Given the reviews say that the Model 3 Highland refresh is only a bit better in terms of NVH and ride quality over the preceding generation, I don’t hold much hope the Model Y Juniper refresh will be an amazing change. I reckon cheaper cars like the Volvo XC40 will still be much better in terms these qualities. When I test drove that, its NVH and ride quality were like from a car from the class above. My Mrs immediately vetoed the Model Y and that became the top choice.
Edited by wyson on Sunday 15th October 05:26
I sat in a nearly new BMW 420i M-sport recently, a cheaper car than my M3P, and it was a very nice place to be inside. Ridiculously busy with buttons, but everything just felt premium in a way my 3 doesn't. Having a screen again in front of me was quite a treat. I think it had a HUD too. It definitely felt like more of what you would be paying for it was beneath your fingers, if that makes sense.
It pays to remember that Tesla have a double digit margin on the 3 & Y, even after all of the price cuts. The cost for them to build these cars is considerably less than the asking price, and you do feel it in various departments, even if the software and efficiency seduces you.
I have had my MYLR nearly 4 months and have covered just over 2,500 miles, overall I’m really liking it.
However, I have a long journey today so charged to 100% last night. 100% is now 325 miles, not 331. If the battery keeps loosing range at this pace my range will only be 271 miles after driving 25,000 miles.
Is this normal?
However, I have a long journey today so charged to 100% last night. 100% is now 325 miles, not 331. If the battery keeps loosing range at this pace my range will only be 271 miles after driving 25,000 miles.
Is this normal?
The indicated mileage is a direct proxy for available energy in the battery. A cold battery generally has a little less and it’s getting colder
Theres also a little drift in calibration and cell balance which vary from time to time but err slightly pessimistic
Overall I wouldn’t worry, certainly not yet.
Theres also a little drift in calibration and cell balance which vary from time to time but err slightly pessimistic
Overall I wouldn’t worry, certainly not yet.
RichA35 said:
I have had my MYLR nearly 4 months and have covered just over 2,500 miles, overall I’m really liking it.
However, I have a long journey today so charged to 100% last night. 100% is now 325 miles, not 331. If the battery keeps loosing range at this pace my range will only be 271 miles after driving 25,000 miles.
Is this normal?
It’s not even worth discussing. A non issue. However, I have a long journey today so charged to 100% last night. 100% is now 325 miles, not 331. If the battery keeps loosing range at this pace my range will only be 271 miles after driving 25,000 miles.
Is this normal?
However, the battery will degrade much more quickly when new, then will level off.
RichA35 said:
I have had my MYLR nearly 4 months and have covered just over 2,500 miles, overall I’m really liking it.
However, I have a long journey today so charged to 100% last night. 100% is now 325 miles, not 331. If the battery keeps loosing range at this pace my range will only be 271 miles after driving 25,000 miles.
Is this normal?
Yes, likely temperature related.However, I have a long journey today so charged to 100% last night. 100% is now 325 miles, not 331. If the battery keeps loosing range at this pace my range will only be 271 miles after driving 25,000 miles.
Is this normal?
MrJuice said:
Tesla have sold their supercharger network to EG group
They will be rebranded
EG will definitely raise prices
https://electrek.co/2023/11/13/tesla-signs-deal-gas-station-operator-sell-supercharger-directly/They will be rebranded
EG will definitely raise prices
article said:
Tesla has signed a deal with the EG Group, a massive gas station and convenience store operator, to sell its Supercharger hardware to be deployed as an EG-branded product.
It’s the second of such deals that Tesla has made in just a few weeks.
Last month, Tesla surprised many when it announced it reached a deal with BP to sell them $100 million worth of Supercharger hardware to be deployed at BP gas stations across the US under the BP brand.
Basically, they are going to put them on their own sites with their own logo on their instead of the Tesla branding.It’s the second of such deals that Tesla has made in just a few weeks.
Last month, Tesla surprised many when it announced it reached a deal with BP to sell them $100 million worth of Supercharger hardware to be deployed at BP gas stations across the US under the BP brand.
ZesPak said:
Basically, they are going to put them on their own sites with their own logo on their instead of the Tesla branding.
Yeah, sounds like they (EG) want to increase the number of charging stations, and they have picked Tesla as their hardware supplier. Don't think it is going to make any difference to the supercharger network Tesla operates itself.wyson said:
Oh OK. I know exactly what you mean, having driven both. I thought the Model Y had the suspension sophistication of cars costing half as much. It definitely can't compete with a D segment prestige German brand. The money has gone on the software, battery and stuff like the Octovalve, one of the main reasons why your car is so efficient.
Given the reviews say that the Model 3 Highland refresh is only a bit better in terms of NVH and ride quality over the preceding generation, I don’t hold much hope the Model Y Juniper refresh will be an amazing change. I reckon cheaper cars like the Volvo XC40 will still be much better in terms these qualities. When I test drove that, its NVH and ride quality were like from a car from the class above. My Mrs immediately vetoed the Model Y and that became the top choice.
IIRC, there are third party air suspension systems offered for the TMY: does anyone have any experience with them?Given the reviews say that the Model 3 Highland refresh is only a bit better in terms of NVH and ride quality over the preceding generation, I don’t hold much hope the Model Y Juniper refresh will be an amazing change. I reckon cheaper cars like the Volvo XC40 will still be much better in terms these qualities. When I test drove that, its NVH and ride quality were like from a car from the class above. My Mrs immediately vetoed the Model Y and that became the top choice.
Edited by wyson on Sunday 15th October 05:26
You are going to invalidate your warranty for that part of the car. Plus if you need work done to your vehicle, Tesla won’t touch non OE parts nor modifications, so you’ll have to remove the at your expense.
I watched a video of someone who fitted coilovers to his Y and needed to go in for warranty work. He drove the Y to the people who installed the coilover kit, paid to have it removed and the OE shocks and springs put back on. He then drove to Tesla, got the warranty work done (not suspension related but they needed to remove the suspension to access something), then drove back to the first garage and paid to have his coilovers installed again. What a costly palava.
I watched a video of someone who fitted coilovers to his Y and needed to go in for warranty work. He drove the Y to the people who installed the coilover kit, paid to have it removed and the OE shocks and springs put back on. He then drove to Tesla, got the warranty work done (not suspension related but they needed to remove the suspension to access something), then drove back to the first garage and paid to have his coilovers installed again. What a costly palava.
Edited by wyson on Tuesday 14th November 14:39
If you're replacing something as integral as suspension to the car because you can't deal with the OEM stuff, surely you need to ask yourself if you're buying the right car?
Obviously people only think on a macro level, but the only thing that is going to make Tesla elevate this stuff is them losing sales volume to their competitors that are offering that stuff. If you just buy their car anyway and then spend £thousands bringing it up to useable spec, you're harming this effort.
Obviously people only think on a macro level, but the only thing that is going to make Tesla elevate this stuff is them losing sales volume to their competitors that are offering that stuff. If you just buy their car anyway and then spend £thousands bringing it up to useable spec, you're harming this effort.
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