Model 3 UK orders.

[anonymous-user]

Yeah it’s silky smooth stopping and at low speeds. Better then others I’ve briefly tried.

Cones cones cones. Nice to see them. Haven’t tested yet whether the car will obey them in presence of strong opposing white lines.

[dazmanultra]

Ordered a M3 Performance yesterday - was told 4-5 weeks. Anyone know how likely this is?

[anonymous-user]

dazmanultra said:

Ordered a M3 Performance yesterday - was told 4-5 weeks. Anyone know how likely this is?

Fairly likely. AWD sales seem to deliver much quicker than RWD. Might be worth keeping an eye on the inventory and requesting allocation if your trim comes up.

[Scamper]

Dave Hedgehog said:

I got the second free 5% power increase update last night which should take it close to 500 bhp

Can’t wait to try full one foot driving

How does this affect your insurance premiums? do these count as "modifications"?

if it was an ICE and I added aftermarket filter and exhaust id have to declare it and expect some premium increase....

[squirdan]

Dave Hedgehog said:

I got the second free 5% power increase update last night which should take it close to 500 bhp

Can’t wait to try full one foot driving

mine downloaded new software last night but where did you find out what the changes are? cheers

[MOBB]

Press on the software option, then release notes

[jamoor]

Scamper said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

I got the second free 5% power increase update last night which should take it close to 500 bhp

Can’t wait to try full one foot driving

How does this affect your insurance premiums? do these count as "modifications"?

if it was an ICE and I added aftermarket filter and exhaust id have to declare it and expect some premium increase....

Amazing how backward some people are

My car is insured with Tesla’s recommend provider so I don’t think it matters

[MOBB]

jamoor said:

Scamper said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

I got the second free 5% power increase update last night which should take it close to 500 bhp

Can’t wait to try full one foot driving

How does this affect your insurance premiums? do these count as "modifications"?

if it was an ICE and I added aftermarket filter and exhaust id have to declare it and expect some premium increase....

Amazing how backward some people are

My car is insured with Tesla’s recommend provider so I don’t think it matters

Classy comment

[Evanivitch]

Scamper said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

I got the second free 5% power increase update last night which should take it close to 500 bhp

Can’t wait to try full one foot driving

How does this affect your insurance premiums? do these count as "modifications"?

if it was an ICE and I added aftermarket filter and exhaust id have to declare it and expect some premium increase....

But that's your own deviation from the manufacturer's baseline.

Anytime your car receives a service update it's a deviation from a baseline, but it meets the manufacturer's definition of the car. Therefore, insurance don't care. The biggest example of this is VAG diesel emissions fixes.

[p1stonhead]

Evanivitch said:

Scamper said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

I got the second free 5% power increase update last night which should take it close to 500 bhp

Can’t wait to try full one foot driving

How does this affect your insurance premiums? do these count as "modifications"?

if it was an ICE and I added aftermarket filter and exhaust id have to declare it and expect some premium increase....

But that's your own deviation from the manufacturer's baseline.

Anytime your car receives a service update it's a deviation from a baseline, but it meets the manufacturer's definition of the car. Therefore, insurance don't care. The biggest example of this is VAG diesel emissions fixes.

Isn’t insurance based on power output of cars though too?

[Zcd1]

Here's some empirical data regarding the Model 3P power increase:

https://youtu.be/j8hdGCunJso

[Durzel]

Adding ~25bhp would ordinarily attract an insurance premium hike on an ICE car.

Would be interesting to know how insurers are dealing with this sort of thing. What happens if Tesla patch in a Ludicrous mode, or some kind of Drift mode, etc - i.e “watch this” stuff insurers would rightly be fearful of.

[anonymous-user]

Durzel said:

Adding ~25bhp would ordinarily attract an insurance premium hike on an ICE car.

Would be interesting to know how insurers are dealing with this sort of thing. What happens if Tesla patch in a Ludicrous mode, or some kind of Drift mode, etc - i.e “watch this” stuff insurers would rightly be fearful of.

Not necessarily. I fitted RBTBs to my R400 which gives a similar % increase in power and torque, told the insurers but it made no difference.

[jamoor]

Durzel said:

Adding ~25bhp would ordinarily attract an insurance premium hike on an ICE car.

Would be interesting to know how insurers are dealing with this sort of thing. What happens if Tesla patch in a Ludicrous mode, or some kind of Drift mode, etc - i.e “watch this” stuff insurers would rightly be fearful of.

What about updates to collision mitigation and autopilot that make it safer to drive, they must reduce the premiums to match.

[anonymous-user]

jamoor said:

Scamper said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

I got the second free 5% power increase update last night which should take it close to 500 bhp

Can’t wait to try full one foot driving

How does this affect your insurance premiums? do these count as "modifications"?

if it was an ICE and I added aftermarket filter and exhaust id have to declare it and expect some premium increase....

Amazing how backward some people are

My car is insured with Tesla’s recommend provider so I don’t think it matters

You don’t think? That’ll stand up well if it turns out it does matter.

Amazing how naive some people are........

[anonymous-user]

Must be hard to keep with all the spec changes. the P- doesn't appear on BIK tables or insurance either.

Just got to hope the cars become sentient and take on liability sooner rather than later.

[jamoor]

REALIST123 said:

You don’t think? That’ll stand up well if it turns out it does matter.

Amazing how naive some people are........

Why would it matter? Has the car been modified from the manufacturers specification?? NOOOO

[p1stonhead]

jamoor said:

REALIST123 said:

You don’t think? That’ll stand up well if it turns out it does matter.

Amazing how naive some people are........

Why would it matter? Has the car been modified from the manufacturers specification?? NOOOO

The cars power has changed since you took out the policy. Doesn’t matter if it’s a modification or not. Could as well be a new engine changed by the manufacturer. It’s changed from your insurance policy standpoint not a modification standpoint.

You KNOW insurance companies will try and worm out of it if they even have the slightest chance. Risky in the extreme to not tell them ImO.

[Dave Hedgehog]

Charging with a tow

https://youtu.be/RaGVoB4Zn-Y

[jamoor]

p1stonhead said:

jamoor said:

REALIST123 said:

You don’t think? That’ll stand up well if it turns out it does matter.

Amazing how naive some people are........

Why would it matter? Has the car been modified from the manufacturers specification?? NOOOO

The cars power has changed since you took out the policy. Doesn’t matter if it’s a modification or not. Could as well be a new engine changed by the manufacturer. It’s changed from your insurance policy standpoint not a modification standpoint.

You KNOW insurance companies will try and worm out of it if they even have the slightest chance. Risky in the extreme to not tell them ImO.

Not really, if your car goes in for a new gearbox with uprated internals due to the old one being made of cheese, you don't get on the blower to your insurance company to tell them about it.

Or when someone replaces the dodgy bearings on a V8/10 BMW S engine with the new parts from BMW,it's the same story.