Model 3 UK orders.

Model 3 UK orders.

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ZesPak

24,455 posts

198 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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p1stonhead said:
How much is a tesla one and how long would it take to charge? Car is generally in the drive 12hrs from 5pm to 5am so I’m guessing that would be fine for a full charge?
It was EUR 500 when I got it last year.

The duration of your charge will depend on how much power you can draw.
On 3 phase, you can usually draw 11kW. On a single phase you'd be looking at 7kW iirc.

For the model S I usually use 200 Wh/km as it's convenient.
I think a Model 3 should average under 300 kWh/mi.

at 300 Wh/mi, charging at 11 000 W (11kW) will give you 36 miles/hour charge.
So if your daily driving is 100 miles, you'd need about 3h on the charger.

SWoll

18,746 posts

260 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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jamoor said:
p1stonhead said:
jamoor said:
stabilio said:
p1stonhead said:
Hmm didn’t think of that. One will come before the other so maybe I’ll just get the one first...

Tesla will be first but missus likes the look of that new little Honda.

How much is a tesla one and how long would it take to charge? Car is generally in the drive 12hrs from 5pm to 5am so I’m guessing that would be fine for a full charge?
My Tesla 7kw home charger puts approx 28 miles in the car every hour. I just tend to plug it in and leave it until next time I use the car even if I've done a short 10 mile run so it's always topped up to 80%
Exactly, its unlikely that anyone will be charging from 0-100%
Whats more likely is a charge from 70-90 which doesnt take long at all.
My commute is only about 30 miles a day so I could prob just pop it on every few days. Sounds ideal really.
Just charge it every night you have nothing to lose.

It’s not a petrol car where you have to run it town before refilling instead you leave it on constant charge when not in ise
Yep, we charge ours on a 3 PIN every night. Set the car to start charging at midnight and schedule departure for 8am with max charge set to 95% to leave room for regen and get maximum power output.

It's lovely getting in to a warm car with 250 miles of range every morning, and as we rarely do more than 30-50 miles per day it costs us about £2 a night average on standard E7 rates (15p Kw).

£60 a month in 'fuel' costs to cover 1000 miles in a car with almost 500bhp. smile

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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robt350c said:
First chance to test its abilities yesterday, seriously wow!

On normal roads/speeds it's amazingly rapid. Not just in terms of acceleration, ride, grip and cornering abiliy but also in the way this is all delivered with absolutely zero fuss and amazing traction. In these conditions I think my stage 4 Gtr would struggle to keep up, aston/mustang no chance!

Got some condensation in one of the rear lights so need to report that, common fault apparently. Other than that I can't find any faults with the car.
Remember its a one trick pony and all EVs are white goods/boring! biggrin

foxsasha

1,417 posts

137 months

Sunday 2nd February 2020
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RobDickinson said:
Remember its a one trick pony and all EVs are white goods/boring! biggrin
As people, who haven't been in one, keep telling me, they're boring. biggrin

robt350c

157 posts

130 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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A complete revelation using autopilot on my usual gridlock M62 commute from Warrington to Manchester this am.

Transformed my commute! :-)


dmsims

6,601 posts

269 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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SWoll said:
it costs us about £2 a night average on standard E7 rates (15p Kw).
That's a day rate!

You should be paying around 9p or less

p1stonhead

25,850 posts

169 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Am I an idiot or is there zero downside to getting this through my company car scheme?

0% BIK from April....

Vs £10k down and £500 odd a month to buy one?

What am I missing?

Heres Johnny

7,271 posts

126 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Am I an idiot or is there zero downside to getting this through my company car scheme?

0% BIK from April....

Vs £10k down and £500 odd a month to buy one?

What am I missing?
4p a business mile if you do many of those.

And technically they haven't put the 0% BIK into law yet (the election got in the way), its still on the books to become 2% but still a relative bargain.

And finally, the low BIK is based on an exemption EV cars have from salary sacrifice changes that came in where the cost to the employee is the higher of the actual cost and the BIK rate. Its unlikely to change and its certainly unlikely to be retrospective if it does, but worth being aware of just in case.

Dave Hedgehog

14,646 posts

206 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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jamoor said:
Just charge it every night you have nothing to lose.

It’s not a petrol car where you have to run it town before refilling instead you leave it on constant charge when not in ise
Tesla say the best thing for the battery is to top it to 90% every day

stabilio

576 posts

173 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Am I an idiot or is there zero downside to getting this through my company car scheme?

0% BIK from April....

Vs £10k down and £500 odd a month to buy one?

What am I missing?
Take the offer while its available. Once EV's become more popular, the Govt will want more £££

p1stonhead

25,850 posts

169 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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stabilio said:
p1stonhead said:
Am I an idiot or is there zero downside to getting this through my company car scheme?

0% BIK from April....

Vs £10k down and £500 odd a month to buy one?

What am I missing?
Take the offer while its available. Once EV's become more popular, the Govt will want more £££
That’s what I’m thinking!

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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My guess is EVs are safe from any kind of tax until 2023 at the earliest.

Proposed BIK schedule suggests this. There must be something like 250k BEVs in the UK? Under 1% of the fleet. It will be a few years before we hit 5%. It would make no sense going to the trouble and administrative expense of subsidising uptake, only to tax at the same time and cancel out the benefit. My guess is no tax till 2025.

jamoor

14,506 posts

217 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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p1stonhead said:
Am I an idiot or is there zero downside to getting this through my company car scheme?

0% BIK from April....

Vs £10k down and £500 odd a month to buy one?

What am I missing?
Nothing you will be foolish not to buy one.

Not only 0% bik but private mileage is hilariously cheap.

Durzel

12,332 posts

170 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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I have a sneaking feeling that the £3500 grant is going to disappear or be reduced in the March budget, so I’m aiming to get an order in before then.

Sadly I can’t benefit from the 0% BIK gold rush. frown

Triumph Trollomite

5,048 posts

83 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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robt350c said:
A complete revelation using autopilot on my usual gridlock M62 commute from Warrington to Manchester this am.

Transformed my commute! :-)
5k autopilot or the included one?

jamoor

14,506 posts

217 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Triumph Trollomite said:
robt350c said:
A complete revelation using autopilot on my usual gridlock M62 commute from Warrington to Manchester this am.

Transformed my commute! :-)
5k autopilot or the included one?
The included one I assume, the fsd package doesn’t really add much.


Edited by jamoor on Monday 3rd February 13:21

Triumph Trollomite

5,048 posts

83 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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jamoor said:
Triumph Trollomite said:
robt350c said:
A complete revelation using autopilot on my usual gridlock M62 commute from Warrington to Manchester this am.

Transformed my commute! :-)
5k autopilot or the included one?
The included one I assume, the fsd package doesn’t really add much.


Edited by jamoor on Monday 3rd February 13:21
Good to know, thats why I didnt pay for it - couldn't see the justification

jamoor

14,506 posts

217 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Triumph Trollomite said:
jamoor said:
Triumph Trollomite said:
robt350c said:
A complete revelation using autopilot on my usual gridlock M62 commute from Warrington to Manchester this am.

Transformed my commute! :-)
5k autopilot or the included one?
The included one I assume, the fsd package doesn’t really add much.


Edited by jamoor on Monday 3rd February 13:21
Good to know, thats why I didnt pay for it - couldn't see the justification
The theory behind it is great, but I've no idea when we will actually see it in action in this country.

Autopilot does take 90% of the stress out of driving on a motorway/dual carriageway.

You only need to keep an eye on it, and it makes a 100 mile journey a breeze the only issue is that you can begin to get bored as you aren't doing much driving.

robt350c

157 posts

130 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Is the included one, was really good in the 3 lanes of traffic all moving at the same'ish speed this morning. Less so if you have to change lanes to overtake slower traffic as it disengages then. Almost looking forward to the traffic jam on the way home to give it another try :-)

Tried the FSD option on test drive and didn't think it offered much in it's hobbled (for our regulations) state.

Zcd1

455 posts

57 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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robt350c said:
Is the included one, was really good in the 3 lanes of traffic all moving at the same'ish speed this morning. Less so if you have to change lanes to overtake slower traffic as it disengages then. Almost looking forward to the traffic jam on the way home to give it another try :-)
In US cars, the automatic lane keeping assist disengages when you change lanes, but the dynamic cruise control remains active.