Model 3 UK orders.

Model 3 UK orders.

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Witchfinder

6,250 posts

254 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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No, none of that video was an advert in any way shape or form.

jamoor

14,506 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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RobDickinson said:
Of course they market, they don't pay for advertising though.
Yeah no multi million pound campaigns.

I once read that advertising costs ford $800 per car or something like that.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Monday 2nd March 2020
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Yeah ford spend about $2.5bn a year in USA alone on advertising

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

239 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Witchfinder said:
"Tesla don't do marketing"

But they invite irritating YouTubers to make videos about their products. Hmmmm.... If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

New wheels good, although it'll be interesting to see how badly they affect efficiency. Customisation settings are pretty good though.
If you're worried about efficiency a track pack is not for you biggrin

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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And it has a lap timer, you drop a pin to set start/finish


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Dave Hedgehog

14,599 posts

206 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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RobDickinson said:
New track pack and track mode v2.

https://youtu.be/QXyEgl9rFN4
Omg this is like a dream come true

https://youtu.be/d22nlFwIJZY

Elon listened

ZesPak

24,450 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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David87 said:
Holy fk, that Track Mode V2 looks sweet.

Shan’t bother with the new Track Pack add-on though (although it looks cool and it’s great Tesla are doing this). £4,500 for what amounts to new wheels and brake pads seems a bit steep, plus my car is just on PCP and I’ll swap it at the first sniff of a 100kWh Ludicrous model. biggrin
New wheels and tires could be worth it, especially if you get to keep the ones you have now.
A nice set of wheels on another car costs that much, and you don't get the ones you had either.

Software looks insane though. User control over the power distribution??

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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If they are forged then its a good deal, 3rd party forged on their own seem to start at $5k ignoring the $300-500 for the pads + fluid and work to fit.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

239 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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You could certainly save money choosing your own wheel/tyre combination and buying aftermarket fluid, pads but a lot of owners don't want all that bother.

Total cost of those parts in the UK (using third party rims and Cup2 tyres) would come to about £2800, so you could probably get the lot fitted for under £3000.

Anyone taking their P3D on track is going to have to do some sort of upgrade, or they'll be buying brake pads and tyres every time.

ant1973

5,693 posts

207 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Just wondering if anyone was aware of lease rates (amortised) better than the following for an M3P:

2 Years - £803
3 Years - £722
4 Years - £596

All figures are VAT inclusive.

I was looking at buying but the residuals are a little alarming. Tesla are suggesting £21k after 4 years and 40k. I have discounted that on the basis that they are just trying to ensure that there equity in the car for the next one.

However, if you look at the (normally) more reliable fleetnews figures they suggest:-

3 years & 30k - £30,500
4 years & 40k - £26,050
5 years & 50k - £21,525

It would appear that leasing is slightly ahead so I think on balance that is what I will do.


ZesPak

24,450 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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FurtiveFreddy said:
Total cost of those parts in the UK (using third party rims and Cup2 tyres) would come to about £2800, so you could probably get the lot fitted for under £3000.
Oh, ok. Yeah I also always forget GBP is a bit more valueable than the EUR.
I thought 4.5k EUR considering manufacturer markup sounded reasonable.

That said, I'm no fan of the Model Y shape. But it's going to be a compelling car to have something that practical, with these running costs that can do THAT.

jamoor

14,506 posts

217 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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ant1973 said:
Just wondering if anyone was aware of lease rates (amortised) better than the following for an M3P:

2 Years - £803
3 Years - £722
4 Years - £596

All figures are VAT inclusive.

I was looking at buying but the residuals are a little alarming. Tesla are suggesting £21k after 4 years and 40k. I have discounted that on the basis that they are just trying to ensure that there equity in the car for the next one.

However, if you look at the (normally) more reliable fleetnews figures they suggest:-

3 years & 30k - £30,500
4 years & 40k - £26,050
5 years & 50k - £21,525

It would appear that leasing is slightly ahead so I think on balance that is what I will do.
It's all heresay.

Noone can accurately predict the future values of these vehicles as a product like this hasn't existed yet.

ant1973

5,693 posts

207 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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jamoor said:
It's all heresay.

Noone can accurately predict the future values of these vehicles as a product like this hasn't existed yet.
I take the point but I am working on the assumption that fleetnet are more likely to be correct than I am. Also, I do not think there is a better source of information that points to an alternative basis for valuing the residuals. I suppose you might look at the model X and S but again they are more expensive cars to start with so maybe not a fair comparison.

Dave Hedgehog

14,599 posts

206 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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link to the US perf upgraded track pack

https://shop.tesla.com/product/model-3-track-packa...


anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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FSD aside, why would model 3 be immune to the same deprecation pressures seen by more established, more mass market EVs such as Leaf and Zoe, and older Tesla's like S and X? What makes the 3 unique vs these, or even the Y?

ZesPak

24,450 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Sambucket said:
FSD aside, why would model 3 be immune to the same deprecation pressures seen by more established, more mass market EVs such as Leaf and Zoe, and older Tesla's like S and X? What makes the 3 unique vs these, or even the Y?
The S and the X were never a value proposition.

Looking at the Model 3, it is actually very cheap to run which makes TCO very low. The only thing still in there is purchase price.
Why are older high end Mercedes and BMW often so cheap? Because people fear the bills that these can bring.

Tesla has shown that they can make an EV that can run for a decade and well over 200k miles without impacting reliability.

The Leaf and the Zoe actually fair well in their segments re reliability. The Model 3 is just overall a more compelling car.
That said, the numbers are skewed now because it's such a new car. I'm pretty sure it'll stay ahead of the curve for the next couple of years, but depreciation will gradually increase when similar cars arrive (Polestar, Mach E,...).

Heres Johnny

7,261 posts

126 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Dave Hedgehog said:
link to the US perf upgraded track pack

https://shop.tesla.com/product/model-3-track-packa...
$5.5k for a set of wheels and different brake pads? And the flick a switch software.

They do love a good story saying the brakes are uprated, technically they are I guess, but I suspect people might have expected something more than a set of pads, maybe bigger calipers and something better than Dot 3 brake fluid for better higher temperatures performance. At last we can talk true Pistonhead speak...


CallMeLegend

8,790 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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Heres Johnny said:
$5.5k for a set of wheels and different brake pads? And the flick a switch software.


People are buying them, so I'd say that's good marketing!

squirdan

1,089 posts

149 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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i have a performance minus with aero discs and am not planning on taking it on track

you'd get black flagged on most UK track days if you smoked it round corners like that youtube link

but if anyone with 19 or 20 inchers does the upgrade and wants some £ for their standard OEM wheels please let me know

Edited by squirdan on Tuesday 3rd March 12:35

rjg48

2,671 posts

63 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2020
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CallMeLegend said:
People are buying them