Model 3 UK orders.
Discussion
Witchfinder said:
"Tesla don't do marketing"
But they invite irritating YouTubers to make videos about their products. Hmmmm.... If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.
New wheels good, although it'll be interesting to see how badly they affect efficiency. Customisation settings are pretty good though.
If you're worried about efficiency a track pack is not for you But they invite irritating YouTubers to make videos about their products. Hmmmm.... If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.
New wheels good, although it'll be interesting to see how badly they affect efficiency. Customisation settings are pretty good though.
David87 said:
Holy fk, that Track Mode V2 looks sweet.
Shan’t bother with the new Track Pack add-on though (although it looks cool and it’s great Tesla are doing this). £4,500 for what amounts to new wheels and brake pads seems a bit steep, plus my car is just on PCP and I’ll swap it at the first sniff of a 100kWh Ludicrous model.
New wheels and tires could be worth it, especially if you get to keep the ones you have now. Shan’t bother with the new Track Pack add-on though (although it looks cool and it’s great Tesla are doing this). £4,500 for what amounts to new wheels and brake pads seems a bit steep, plus my car is just on PCP and I’ll swap it at the first sniff of a 100kWh Ludicrous model.
A nice set of wheels on another car costs that much, and you don't get the ones you had either.
Software looks insane though. User control over the power distribution??
You could certainly save money choosing your own wheel/tyre combination and buying aftermarket fluid, pads but a lot of owners don't want all that bother.
Total cost of those parts in the UK (using third party rims and Cup2 tyres) would come to about £2800, so you could probably get the lot fitted for under £3000.
Anyone taking their P3D on track is going to have to do some sort of upgrade, or they'll be buying brake pads and tyres every time.
Total cost of those parts in the UK (using third party rims and Cup2 tyres) would come to about £2800, so you could probably get the lot fitted for under £3000.
Anyone taking their P3D on track is going to have to do some sort of upgrade, or they'll be buying brake pads and tyres every time.
Just wondering if anyone was aware of lease rates (amortised) better than the following for an M3P:
2 Years - £803
3 Years - £722
4 Years - £596
All figures are VAT inclusive.
I was looking at buying but the residuals are a little alarming. Tesla are suggesting £21k after 4 years and 40k. I have discounted that on the basis that they are just trying to ensure that there equity in the car for the next one.
However, if you look at the (normally) more reliable fleetnews figures they suggest:-
3 years & 30k - £30,500
4 years & 40k - £26,050
5 years & 50k - £21,525
It would appear that leasing is slightly ahead so I think on balance that is what I will do.
2 Years - £803
3 Years - £722
4 Years - £596
All figures are VAT inclusive.
I was looking at buying but the residuals are a little alarming. Tesla are suggesting £21k after 4 years and 40k. I have discounted that on the basis that they are just trying to ensure that there equity in the car for the next one.
However, if you look at the (normally) more reliable fleetnews figures they suggest:-
3 years & 30k - £30,500
4 years & 40k - £26,050
5 years & 50k - £21,525
It would appear that leasing is slightly ahead so I think on balance that is what I will do.
FurtiveFreddy said:
Total cost of those parts in the UK (using third party rims and Cup2 tyres) would come to about £2800, so you could probably get the lot fitted for under £3000.
Oh, ok. Yeah I also always forget GBP is a bit more valueable than the EUR.I thought 4.5k EUR considering manufacturer markup sounded reasonable.
That said, I'm no fan of the Model Y shape. But it's going to be a compelling car to have something that practical, with these running costs that can do THAT.
ant1973 said:
Just wondering if anyone was aware of lease rates (amortised) better than the following for an M3P:
2 Years - £803
3 Years - £722
4 Years - £596
All figures are VAT inclusive.
I was looking at buying but the residuals are a little alarming. Tesla are suggesting £21k after 4 years and 40k. I have discounted that on the basis that they are just trying to ensure that there equity in the car for the next one.
However, if you look at the (normally) more reliable fleetnews figures they suggest:-
3 years & 30k - £30,500
4 years & 40k - £26,050
5 years & 50k - £21,525
It would appear that leasing is slightly ahead so I think on balance that is what I will do.
It's all heresay.2 Years - £803
3 Years - £722
4 Years - £596
All figures are VAT inclusive.
I was looking at buying but the residuals are a little alarming. Tesla are suggesting £21k after 4 years and 40k. I have discounted that on the basis that they are just trying to ensure that there equity in the car for the next one.
However, if you look at the (normally) more reliable fleetnews figures they suggest:-
3 years & 30k - £30,500
4 years & 40k - £26,050
5 years & 50k - £21,525
It would appear that leasing is slightly ahead so I think on balance that is what I will do.
Noone can accurately predict the future values of these vehicles as a product like this hasn't existed yet.
jamoor said:
It's all heresay.
Noone can accurately predict the future values of these vehicles as a product like this hasn't existed yet.
I take the point but I am working on the assumption that fleetnet are more likely to be correct than I am. Also, I do not think there is a better source of information that points to an alternative basis for valuing the residuals. I suppose you might look at the model X and S but again they are more expensive cars to start with so maybe not a fair comparison. Noone can accurately predict the future values of these vehicles as a product like this hasn't existed yet.
Sambucket said:
FSD aside, why would model 3 be immune to the same deprecation pressures seen by more established, more mass market EVs such as Leaf and Zoe, and older Tesla's like S and X? What makes the 3 unique vs these, or even the Y?
The S and the X were never a value proposition.Looking at the Model 3, it is actually very cheap to run which makes TCO very low. The only thing still in there is purchase price.
Why are older high end Mercedes and BMW often so cheap? Because people fear the bills that these can bring.
Tesla has shown that they can make an EV that can run for a decade and well over 200k miles without impacting reliability.
The Leaf and the Zoe actually fair well in their segments re reliability. The Model 3 is just overall a more compelling car.
That said, the numbers are skewed now because it's such a new car. I'm pretty sure it'll stay ahead of the curve for the next couple of years, but depreciation will gradually increase when similar cars arrive (Polestar, Mach E,...).
Dave Hedgehog said:
$5.5k for a set of wheels and different brake pads? And the flick a switch software.They do love a good story saying the brakes are uprated, technically they are I guess, but I suspect people might have expected something more than a set of pads, maybe bigger calipers and something better than Dot 3 brake fluid for better higher temperatures performance. At last we can talk true Pistonhead speak...
i have a performance minus with aero discs and am not planning on taking it on track
you'd get black flagged on most UK track days if you smoked it round corners like that youtube link
but if anyone with 19 or 20 inchers does the upgrade and wants some £ for their standard OEM wheels please let me know
you'd get black flagged on most UK track days if you smoked it round corners like that youtube link
but if anyone with 19 or 20 inchers does the upgrade and wants some £ for their standard OEM wheels please let me know
Edited by squirdan on Tuesday 3rd March 12:35
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