Elon Musk ordered Tesla software to be optimistic on range
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Elon Musk in the firing line for allegedly ordering tweaks to the range calculators to ge extremely optimistic.
When owners complained and booked in for servicing, a special team was set up to handle these away from the service.
Given diesel gate, I wonder if there will be class action kaw suits?
When owners complained and booked in for servicing, a special team was set up to handle these away from the service.
Given diesel gate, I wonder if there will be class action kaw suits?
Stories spreading now that many people never achieved the expected range on Teslas, now found to be that the software was programmed to be overoptimistic, and a "diversion team" was created to handle the hundreds of complaints.
Reuters...
"...Tesla reportedly created a secretive “Diversion Team” tasked with trying to quickly divert and cancel as many appointments for range-related issues as possible. The unit, according to a Reuters investigation, was reportedly responsible for closing hundreds of cases per week of upset Tesla owners complaining about range performance. Those cars were often working properly but simply failed to meet Tesla’s inflated and exaggerated driving range estimates for its fleet of vehicles..."
Reuters...
"...Tesla reportedly created a secretive “Diversion Team” tasked with trying to quickly divert and cancel as many appointments for range-related issues as possible. The unit, according to a Reuters investigation, was reportedly responsible for closing hundreds of cases per week of upset Tesla owners complaining about range performance. Those cars were often working properly but simply failed to meet Tesla’s inflated and exaggerated driving range estimates for its fleet of vehicles..."
More on it
"...Elon wanted to show good range numbers when fully charged,” the source told Reuters. “When you buy a car off the lot seeing 350-mile, 400-mile range, it makes you feel good.”
These range estimates were optimistic, and when the vehicle dropped below 50% SoC, its algorithm started to present more realistic predictions, dropping the range much more quickly..."
And
"...Jonathan Elfalan, Edmunds vehicle testing director, says that it has continued to test EVs since 2021 and no Tesla vehicle has met its EPA estimated range.
“They've gotten really good at exploiting the rule book and maximizing certain points to work in their favor involving EPA tests,” said Elfalan in a statement to Reuters. Elfalan said that by working the system, Tesla could potentially “misrepresent what their customers will experience with their vehicles.”
South Korean officials fined Tesla $2.2 million earlier this year after it deemed that Tesla exaggerated the "driving ranges of its cars on a single charge, their fuel cost-effectiveness compared to gasoline vehicles as well as the performance of its Superchargers.".."
So it's within the rules, but how far can you bend rules before they snap?
I wonder if there will be a class action in the US as more details emerge if people bought assuming the ranges were an accurate estimate?
"...Elon wanted to show good range numbers when fully charged,” the source told Reuters. “When you buy a car off the lot seeing 350-mile, 400-mile range, it makes you feel good.”
These range estimates were optimistic, and when the vehicle dropped below 50% SoC, its algorithm started to present more realistic predictions, dropping the range much more quickly..."
And
"...Jonathan Elfalan, Edmunds vehicle testing director, says that it has continued to test EVs since 2021 and no Tesla vehicle has met its EPA estimated range.
“They've gotten really good at exploiting the rule book and maximizing certain points to work in their favor involving EPA tests,” said Elfalan in a statement to Reuters. Elfalan said that by working the system, Tesla could potentially “misrepresent what their customers will experience with their vehicles.”
South Korean officials fined Tesla $2.2 million earlier this year after it deemed that Tesla exaggerated the "driving ranges of its cars on a single charge, their fuel cost-effectiveness compared to gasoline vehicles as well as the performance of its Superchargers.".."
So it's within the rules, but how far can you bend rules before they snap?
I wonder if there will be a class action in the US as more details emerge if people bought assuming the ranges were an accurate estimate?
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