Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!
Discussion
Deanoc123 said:
I've ever had a car that excudes non competitive, non timed track days. Current Audi, porsche, BMW, Nissan, hyundai all cover it.
Dealer seem to think it was just someone one social media who didn't know the answer. Toyota UK breakdown and extended warranty both cover it.
That seems to be pretty conclusive that we have nothing to worry about Dealer seem to think it was just someone one social media who didn't know the answer. Toyota UK breakdown and extended warranty both cover it.
Deanoc123 said:
Sam.M said:
That seems to be pretty conclusive that we have nothing to worry about
Yes hoping so. Just want to read it in the terms of the 5 year warranty and I can go back to being buzzing.Look forward to your next update, I'll lean on my dealer when I go in for the test drive too, whenever that may be.
Sam.M said:
Deanoc123 said:
I've ever had a car that excudes non competitive, non timed track days. Current Audi, porsche, BMW, Nissan, hyundai all cover it.
Dealer seem to think it was just someone one social media who didn't know the answer. Toyota UK breakdown and extended warranty both cover it.
That seems to be pretty conclusive that we have nothing to worry about Dealer seem to think it was just someone one social media who didn't know the answer. Toyota UK breakdown and extended warranty both cover it.
Only Hyundai and McLaren (requires pre & post track test) explicitly include track days. Porsche don't but have been known to sometimes be sympathetic but they do not have to be, look at all the GT4 strut failures which have not been fixed under warranty!
Krikkit said:
Dash flex wouldn't bother me - how often do you smash into the dash anyway? Why would you?
It wasn’t the dash he was complaining about it was the centre console (between the seats) flexing when he was trying to use it to stay upright after falling out of his seat. So probably fairly regularly if you don’t have buckets. Lauren13 said:
Bispal said:
I really fancy one of these but I am worried the suspension will be rock hard and you cant get a mechanical LSD without the concrete suspension (circuit pack) option. Are they all sold out or do you think there will be stock to buy following a test drive? I would hate to make another wrong decision on a car that is just too rock hard for the UK?
The only difference is stiffer front springs. It won't be rock hard. I wouldn't worry. I've got one on order.RB Will said:
Krikkit said:
Dash flex wouldn't bother me - how often do you smash into the dash anyway? Why would you?
It wasn’t the dash he was complaining about it was the centre console (between the seats) flexing when he was trying to use it to stay upright after falling out of his seat. So probably fairly regularly if you don’t have buckets. Bispal said:
A track 'test' day is not a track day. Its a testing day. A test day is an event that requires a valid MSUK or ACU license and a regulated CAR or BIKE it is for race teams to test cars. My understanding of that wording is normal track days are not covered.
Only Hyundai and McLaren (requires pre & post track test) explicitly include track days. Porsche don't but have been known to sometimes be sympathetic but they do not have to be, look at all the GT4 strut failures which have not been fixed under warranty!
Porsche have been fine on mine. They organise days.Only Hyundai and McLaren (requires pre & post track test) explicitly include track days. Porsche don't but have been known to sometimes be sympathetic but they do not have to be, look at all the GT4 strut failures which have not been fixed under warranty!
Just very anti mods.
BMW fine too. Nothing competitive or timed.
ecsrobin said:
Deanoc123 said:
ecsrobin said:
I thought you cancelled?
No why you think that? Went to but dealer raised a 'compass case' to get clarity. All they need to do is provide the 5 year/100k T&Cs really.Tbh, I can see more Yaris GR hitting the track than other cars so I can understand if Toyota were reluctant to cover track use especially for 5 years. It's also quite a reasonably priced car for what it is too. The customer ultimately pays for warranties via pricing I think?
Would be nice if included tho
Would be nice if included tho
Edited by Darren198 on Thursday 22 October 10:55
Darren198 said:
Tbh, I can see more Yaris GR hitting the track than other cars so I can understand if Toyota were reluctant to cover track use especially for 5 years. It's also quite a reasonably priced car for what it is too. The customer ultimately pays for warranties via pricing I think?
Would be nice if included tho
I was discussing this with a friend. I'm not sure how much risk there actually is. It just sounds bad - "track use".Would be nice if included tho
Edited by Darren198 on Thursday 22 October 10:55
All the consumables get murdered sure but they are not covered. I'm sure they engineer the engine to not overheat and go pop after 20 mins of hard use and the drivetrain must be able to handle full send of the engine.
All I can think of is bushes, wheel bearings, mounts etc. but then is 3 or 4k of track use a year really worse than 10k of potholes, speedbumps, doughnuts down asda carpark and launching from traffic lights?
Sam.M said:
Also if you read the owners manual, the car will warn you of both engine and AWD system overheat.
It’s not like you’ll be able to thrash it entirely ignorant of the fact the car is telling you to let it cool off.
Exactly that. I don't expect cover for misuse or error. Shifting 6th to 1st or hitting a kerb at 100mph. Just plain, simple mechanical failure in an environment which I feel it should be ok with, especially given its inception and marketing.It’s not like you’ll be able to thrash it entirely ignorant of the fact the car is telling you to let it cool off.
They can't come out and say 'We'll warranty everything, regardless of usage or abuse' because it'll catch them out. They need a get out clause for when someone is taking the piss in an extreme case.
I'm certainly not worried about warranty and mine will be going on track, untimed and not competing. I'd bet my hair they'll sort any defects.
I'm certainly not worried about warranty and mine will be going on track, untimed and not competing. I'd bet my hair they'll sort any defects.
Deanoc123 said:
Exactly that. I don't expect cover for misuse or error. Shifting 6th to 1st or hitting a kerb at 100mph. Just plain, simple mechanical failure in an environment which I feel it should be ok with, especially given its inception and marketing.
If you go back through the whole thread I think Toyota have already said words to that effect. Deanoc123 said:
I was discussing this with a friend. I'm not sure how much risk there actually is. It just sounds bad - "track use".
All the consumables get murdered sure but they are not covered. I'm sure they engineer the engine to not overheat and go pop after 20 mins of hard use and the drivetrain must be able to handle full send of the engine.
All I can think of is bushes, wheel bearings, mounts etc. but then is 3 or 4k of track use a year really worse than 10k of potholes, speedbumps, doughnuts down asda carpark and launching from traffic lights?
I think there's a big spectrum that covers "track use" - on one hand you could drive it there on standard road tyres, run round in sessions and use it like a normal road-going car. On the other hand you could take a set of slicks on spare wheels, drive right up to the limiter in every gear, push the kerbs on every lap and really hammer it to death like you were on a last-gasp qualifier and chasing every tenth.All the consumables get murdered sure but they are not covered. I'm sure they engineer the engine to not overheat and go pop after 20 mins of hard use and the drivetrain must be able to handle full send of the engine.
All I can think of is bushes, wheel bearings, mounts etc. but then is 3 or 4k of track use a year really worse than 10k of potholes, speedbumps, doughnuts down asda carpark and launching from traffic lights?
Krikkit said:
I think there's a big spectrum that covers "track use" - on one hand you could drive it there on standard road tyres, run round in sessions and use it like a normal road-going car. On the other hand you could take a set of slicks on spare wheels, drive right up to the limiter in every gear, push the kerbs on every lap and really hammer it to death like you were on a last-gasp qualifier and chasing every tenth.
This is probably why Toyota are quite vague with the wording. Someone like me who owns it as a daily that does upto 4 track days a year running at 7/10ths isn’t too concerned with the wording vs Dean who sounds like he’s buying it as a dedicated track car running at 10/10ths knowing he’s at a higher risk of things going wrong due to that is unhappy with the wording. I think the wording originally from Toyota is every warranty case is assessed.
Bispal said:
Sam.M said:
Deanoc123 said:
I've ever had a car that excudes non competitive, non timed track days. Current Audi, porsche, BMW, Nissan, hyundai all cover it.
Dealer seem to think it was just someone one social media who didn't know the answer. Toyota UK breakdown and extended warranty both cover it.
That seems to be pretty conclusive that we have nothing to worry about Dealer seem to think it was just someone one social media who didn't know the answer. Toyota UK breakdown and extended warranty both cover it.
Only Hyundai and McLaren (requires pre & post track test) explicitly include track days. Porsche don't but have been known to sometimes be sympathetic but they do not have to be, look at all the GT4 strut failures which have not been fixed under warranty!
TX.
Terminator X said:
If something breaks on a track day just push it on to the public road with some friends. If you crash on a track day then of course no one will cover you unless you have track day insurance.
TX.
I hear you and I'm sure you could get away with it but when spending 35k on a yaris with 'circuit' in the name, a track mode button, a lap timer and all the marketing being of people on tracks wearing helmets it would be nice to know id have a hassle free experience if it went pop just having a rag around brands.TX.
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