Re : Toyota GR Yaris - official!
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Terminator X said:
Bispal said:
Sam.M said:
Deanoc123 said:
I've ever had a car that excudes non competitive, non timed track days. Current Audi, porsche, BMW, Nissan, hyundai all cover it.
Dealer seem to think it was just someone one social media who didn't know the answer. Toyota UK breakdown and extended warranty both cover it.
That seems to be pretty conclusive that we have nothing to worry about Dealer seem to think it was just someone one social media who didn't know the answer. Toyota UK breakdown and extended warranty both cover it.
Only Hyundai and McLaren (requires pre & post track test) explicitly include track days. Porsche don't but have been known to sometimes be sympathetic but they do not have to be, look at all the GT4 strut failures which have not been fixed under warranty!
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Deanoc123 said:
I hear you and I'm sure you could get away with it but when spending 35k on a yaris with 'circuit' in the name, a track mode button, a lap timer and all the marketing being of people on tracks wearing helmets it would be nice to know id have a hassle free experience if it went pop just having a rag around brands.
Would be interesting to see if it would (or if any similar previously) have stood up to a legal challenge.From the interviews with mr Toyota I've seen, he’s fully encouraging people to race these but also expects anyone wanting to do serious track work to do plenty of modifications to their car too. In which case, factory warranty is void anyway.
The interview I saw he said he is building a car to the point It Is ready for the customer to continue its development in their own personal way.
The interview I saw he said he is building a car to the point It Is ready for the customer to continue its development in their own personal way.
Krikkit said:
Deanoc123 said:
I was discussing this with a friend. I'm not sure how much risk there actually is. It just sounds bad - "track use".
All the consumables get murdered sure but they are not covered. I'm sure they engineer the engine to not overheat and go pop after 20 mins of hard use and the drivetrain must be able to handle full send of the engine.
All I can think of is bushes, wheel bearings, mounts etc. but then is 3 or 4k of track use a year really worse than 10k of potholes, speedbumps, doughnuts down asda carpark and launching from traffic lights?
I think there's a big spectrum that covers "track use" - on one hand you could drive it there on standard road tyres, run round in sessions and use it like a normal road-going car. On the other hand you could take a set of slicks on spare wheels, drive right up to the limiter in every gear, push the kerbs on every lap and really hammer it to death like you were on a last-gasp qualifier and chasing every tenth.All the consumables get murdered sure but they are not covered. I'm sure they engineer the engine to not overheat and go pop after 20 mins of hard use and the drivetrain must be able to handle full send of the engine.
All I can think of is bushes, wheel bearings, mounts etc. but then is 3 or 4k of track use a year really worse than 10k of potholes, speedbumps, doughnuts down asda carpark and launching from traffic lights?
rodericb said:
The dampers are stiffer and the front anti roll bar larger diameter on the JP competition pack.
How do you know that? I read the description of the Circuit Pack with 'circuit tuned suspension'. It just says stiffer front springs.
Also a word about track days/warranty. I really wouldn't worry. I've tracked my GT86 since it was new and also gone on TGB organised track days. My dealer positively encouraged me competing in a sprint series that they sponsored. Never had an issue with warranty claims with track use. Neither have my many friends with GT86's.
Doesn’t really scream track car to me, it’s a B road blaster surely? Enjoying that turbo midrange shove and short shifting back below the turbo spool area rather than on track where you’d be up the top of the revs all the time and it’d lose that turbo charm.
Last thing I’d want for track is a turbocharged 4wd ‘rally car’. Both of my cars with that setup I wouldn’t dream of taking on track, that’s why I’ve got a clio track car.
FWD N/A hatch that can take a beating or RWD N/A car that can take a beating.
You wouldn’t even have a clue how well it’d even last being so new. The production one could lunch itself in a few laps.
Last thing I’d want for track is a turbocharged 4wd ‘rally car’. Both of my cars with that setup I wouldn’t dream of taking on track, that’s why I’ve got a clio track car.
FWD N/A hatch that can take a beating or RWD N/A car that can take a beating.
You wouldn’t even have a clue how well it’d even last being so new. The production one could lunch itself in a few laps.
uncleluck said:
Doesn’t really scream track car to me, it’s a B road blaster surely? Enjoying that turbo midrange shove and short shifting back below the turbo spool area rather than on track where you’d be up the top of the revs all the time and it’d lose that turbo charm.
Last thing I’d want for track is a turbocharged 4wd ‘rally car’. Both of my cars with that setup I wouldn’t dream of taking on track, that’s why I’ve got a clio track car.
FWD N/A hatch that can take a beating or RWD N/A car that can take a beating.
You wouldn’t even have a clue how well it’d even last being so new. The production one could lunch itself in a few laps.
We'll see. I think it'll make a nice UK track day car. Got RWD N/A in the stable but this offers something different Last thing I’d want for track is a turbocharged 4wd ‘rally car’. Both of my cars with that setup I wouldn’t dream of taking on track, that’s why I’ve got a clio track car.
FWD N/A hatch that can take a beating or RWD N/A car that can take a beating.
You wouldn’t even have a clue how well it’d even last being so new. The production one could lunch itself in a few laps.
uncleluck said:
Doesn’t really scream track car to me, it’s a B road blaster surely? Enjoying that turbo midrange shove and short shifting back below the turbo spool area rather than on track where you’d be up the top of the revs all the time and it’d lose that turbo charm.
Last thing I’d want for track is a turbocharged 4wd ‘rally car’. Both of my cars with that setup I wouldn’t dream of taking on track, that’s why I’ve got a clio track car.
FWD N/A hatch that can take a beating or RWD N/A car that can take a beating.
You wouldn’t even have a clue how well it’d even last being so new. The production one could lunch itself in a few laps.
Have seen plenty of rally type cars on track that look like they are having a great time. A track day isn't a race. It's about having fun. Any format is fine. Last thing I’d want for track is a turbocharged 4wd ‘rally car’. Both of my cars with that setup I wouldn’t dream of taking on track, that’s why I’ve got a clio track car.
FWD N/A hatch that can take a beating or RWD N/A car that can take a beating.
You wouldn’t even have a clue how well it’d even last being so new. The production one could lunch itself in a few laps.
Lauren13 said:
rodericb said:
The dampers are stiffer and the front anti roll bar larger diameter on the JP competition pack.
How do you know that? I read the description of the Circuit Pack with 'circuit tuned suspension'. It just says stiffer front springs.
Also a word about track days/warranty. I really wouldn't worry. I've tracked my GT86 since it was new and also gone on TGB organised track days. My dealer positively encouraged me competing in a sprint series that they sponsored. Never had an issue with warranty claims with track use. Neither have my many friends with GT86's.
Lighty said:
ecsrobin said:
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DoubleTime said:
Have seen plenty of rally type cars on track that look like they are having a great time. A track day isn't a race. It's about having fun. Any format is fine.
Certainly don’t need the ‘not a race’ line with me, funnily enough I’ve been moaning with friends about that very thing recently (after a couple of track days with people taking things way too seriously like they’re in an actual race, even on the sighting lap). My point is the cars of that design don’t usually fair well mechanically as they’re not really suited to the high rpm constant fast driving IMO. I’ve seen more of that type of car going home on transporters broken than any other. But anyway, whatever floats your boat I guess.
Lauren13 said:
rodericb said:
The dampers are stiffer and the front anti roll bar larger diameter on the JP competition pack.
How do you know that? I read the description of the Circuit Pack with 'circuit tuned suspension'. It just says stiffer front springs.
Also a word about track days/warranty. I really wouldn't worry. I've tracked my GT86 since it was new and also gone on TGB organised track days. My dealer positively encouraged me competing in a sprint series that they sponsored. Never had an issue with warranty claims with track use. Neither have my many friends with GT86's.
Here is the data on the specific spring rates, damping rates etc between models.
Regarding the guy who took his on track, you guys need to stop regarding him as a qualified motoring journalist or someone who's words should carry weight.
His throttle inputs are horrendous (binary stabbing at it mid corner), he thinks 100c is too hot for the car and slows down, he's flatshifting. Yeah he has the car but he's only expressing an opinion...to be clear, if someone drives a Ferrari badly on a track and gets passed by a Honda Civic, is the Ferrari the slower car because the owner says it is? OF COURSE NOT, same applies to the way this guy drives it and his opinion.
Its great he's uploading content and he's not pretending to be some driving god, but the way some people are interpreting his videos you'd think he was Chris Harris
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