Seats - Oh gawd...

[AlexNJ89]

neil-g8km6 said:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
My write up with photos for adjusting the Sabelt buckets, its self explanatory. Re positioning the left foot rest should be a doddle compared to the seats

Have you considered swapping with @LeglessAlex?

He has comfort seats and wants to swap. I unfortunately have tan comfort seats so it wouldn't be suitable.

[AlexNJ89]

Drove an S today, was too hard for me.

So definitely going to try to get a hold of some bucket seats.

[7en]

Hoofty said:

Pete182cup said:

AlpineGuy said:

This guy is excellent, very good work.

https://www.davethetrimmer.com/

Great thanks - gonna look at the Sabelt cushion but will keep this in mind!

I'm also in the happy-with-the-buckets camp, and I've only used one better seat (for me) - a Recaro Pole Position.

The PPs tip it for me thanks to their lumbar cushions, similar to the additional/add on Sabelt ones but underneath the back rest cushions (all velcro so adjustment took seconds). The Pure seats are obviously a lot more OEM than PPs, and it's crossed my mind to enquire with Dave the Trimmer if an inflatable lumbar support could be added. I mean, if you're unstitching the seat...

I wonder if anyone knows if there's any diffculty fitting Recaro Pole Positions to an A110?

I love the aesthetics of the buckets but if I'm honest they sit a bit too high, the comfort seats with some tilt sit just about right height wise but ironically aren't as soft as the buckets. Almost every mention of the PPs describes how they're incredibly comfortable, plus they have a wide range of height and tilt adjustment and paddable lumbar support.

Which leaves the question of fitting... The A110 runners are different in that they bolt to the car from underneath, which means the original runners would probably have to be fitted to the side plates.

I have also inquired with Ring4Rent who have already added PPs to their track A110.

Edited by 7en on Thursday 8th February 18:46

[johnnyreggae]

If you can live with fixed seats the side plates should fix directly to the floor using existing holes - not from specific experience but because typically mounting plates have fairly standard attachment hole locations - sometimes it is possible to source car-specific sliding brackets but that can constrain seat options

[7en]

I contacted to Rent4Ring and they were very helpful and mentioned they had issues fitting the Recaro PPs in a low position, even with a custom solution they have issues with taller drivers.

The A110 runners/sliders have threads protruding downwards which fasten with nuts from underneath so a little different. I think it would be a matter of putting the seats with side plates in the car, finding the best position from pedals/steering wheel, mark the side plates from underneath, then drill if necessary and bolt in fixed position. Although the side plates could be way off the mark for the original mounting points, so would need a base plate to mount to the car, then mount the side plates to the base.

I think deleting the runners on the Sabelt bucket seats could actually be the ideal height, so could even go the same route as above with the original side plates.

Edited by 7en on Thursday 8th February 18:47

[johnnyreggae]

Possibly like this ? https://www.demon-tweeks.com/sabelt-alloy-seat-sid...

Its worth looking at what already exists for instance maybe this would be lower than factory ? https://www.swmotorsports.uk/product/slk-super-low...

Anything like this would probably be declarable to insurer so aim for FIA spec

[worldwidewebs]

The problem isn't the brackets, it's a combination of the seat and the car. The car has a 'hump' in the floor so although it may appear as though there is a good couple of inches between the seat base and the floor of the car, the hump stops the seat going any lower. Obviously you're not going to cut the hump out so the only solution is to find a seat with a thinner base, such as a Tillett. Or do what I keep thinking I'll get round to and buy another seat and have it trimmed with a thinner piece of foam in the seat base

[7en]

worldwidewebs said:

The problem isn't the brackets, it's a combination of the seat and the car. The car has a 'hump' in the floor so although it may appear as though there is a good couple of inches between the seat base and the floor of the car, the hump stops the seat going any lower. Obviously you're not going to cut the hump out so the only solution is to find a seat with a thinner base, such as a Tillett. Or do what I keep thinking I'll get round to and buy another seat and have it trimmed with a thinner piece of foam in the seat base

Yep you're right, the rear of the seat is already on the floor which I already knew but somehow neglected to remember. The only tweaks which could be done is adjusting tilt with new holes, I would experiment with this but unfortunately the mounts aren't available separately and I don't fancy ruining my only set.

Rent4Ring also suggested removing cushioning from the original seat as an option, or of course the GT seats.

Edited by 7en on Thursday 8th February 18:40

[7en]

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Edited by 7en on Thursday 8th February 18:40

[7en]

I know Neil here has drilled his own holes at the front to tilt his seat forward, I'm wondering has anyone here modified their seats in the same way as this Japenese workshop to recline?

https://www.satoruworks.com/a110-%E3%83%81%E3%83%A...

This is something I am definitely going to try. I have my drivers bucket currently removed and when sitting in the seat and tilting it back slightly it feels incredibly comfortable as my weight spreads across the seat. I just need to find a workshop I trust to measure and drill the frames. Any pointers very welcome.

[bcr5784]

7en said:

I know Neil here has drilled his own holes at the front to tilt his seat forward, I'm wondering has anyone here modified their seats in the same way as this Japenese workshop to recline?

https://www.satoruworks.com/a110-%E3%83%81%E3%83%A...

This is something I am definitely going to try. I have my drivers bucket currently removed and when sitting in the seat and tilting it back slightly it feels incredibly comfortable as my weight spreads across the seat. I just need to find a workshop I trust to measure and drill the frames. Any pointers very welcome.

Any even half decent workshop - and plenty of well- equipped amateurs ought to be able to do this. All you need is a pillar drill and a suitable clamp.

[7en]

bcr5784 said:

7en said:

I know Neil here has drilled his own holes at the front to tilt his seat forward, I'm wondering has anyone here modified their seats in the same way as this Japenese workshop to recline?

https://www.satoruworks.com/a110-%E3%83%81%E3%83%A...

This is something I am definitely going to try. I have my drivers bucket currently removed and when sitting in the seat and tilting it back slightly it feels incredibly comfortable as my weight spreads across the seat. I just need to find a workshop I trust to measure and drill the frames. Any pointers very welcome.

Any even half decent workshop - and plenty of well- equipped amateurs ought to be able to do this. All you need is a pillar drill and a suitable clamp.

The most difficult part is calculating the correct measurements of where the bolt hole lines up exactly as you tilt the seat.

[Whaleblue]

7en said:

I know Neil here has drilled his own holes at the front to tilt his seat forward, I'm wondering has anyone here modified their seats in the same way as this Japenese workshop to recline?

https://www.satoruworks.com/a110-%E3%83%81%E3%83%A...

This is something I am definitely going to try. I have my drivers bucket currently removed and when sitting in the seat and tilting it back slightly it feels incredibly comfortable as my weight spreads across the seat. I just need to find a workshop I trust to measure and drill the frames. Any pointers very welcome.

One thing to bear in mind is that if it were noticed you’d drilled out the mounting holes on the seat frame it would likely fail an MOT. I’m not 100% sure about this, but I’d check first.

[bcr5784]

7en said:

The most difficult part is calculating the correct measurements of where the bolt hole lines up exactly as you tilt the seat.

That shouldn't be that difficult either. The new rear bolt holes must be exactly the same distance from the front ones as the existing holes - the seat is rotating in an arc around the front bolt hole. It's then just a matter of deciding how much change in backrest angle you want - again a trivial geometry calculation to determine how far you need to move the hole vertically.