Discounted stock Emiras...

Discounted stock Emiras...

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AceRockatansky

2,186 posts

29 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Dr Interceptor said:
Pflanzgarten said:
I still don't get how this attitude has infected buying a car confused I know it's been nice running cars for a very short period of time when they didn't lose anything but it was never going to last forever.

I can go out for lunch tomorrow with my wife and instantly lose up to a grand if I want to, all I'm left with is the memories of the experience and what I flush down the toilet the next day.
Different things entirely... I went out last night in Lagos with a friend and ran up a large tab drinking rare Tequillas... I didn't lose money, I spent it doing something I enjoy.

For me, I couldn't spend £90,000 on a brand new Emira, when I know an eight month old one with less than 3000 miles is just over £70,000.
Lagos isn't somewhere people like to go either. VI, end up in pats bar, fighting off the gas cookers, then back to the 4 points/Eko.

It's also 1500N/£ on the black market so there's no chance you lost money!

PorkInsider

5,961 posts

143 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Pflanzgarten said:
Just as you prioritise different things someone else may think that getting a brand new Emira that no one else has driven, in exactly the spec they want is worth the spend more than some fancy tequilas might be.
The stock ones on the website are in whatever spec' they were configured in by whoever cancelled the order. So it's full list price for a car in someone else's spec', to be fair.

There are delivery mileage 73 plate cars for sale on AT at ~£20k under list, so I think the point is valid. Either way you're compromising on spec', but one is pre-reg'd the other not and it's going to cost £20k more.


Dr Interceptor

7,852 posts

198 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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AceRockatansky said:
Dr Interceptor said:
Pflanzgarten said:
I still don't get how this attitude has infected buying a car confused I know it's been nice running cars for a very short period of time when they didn't lose anything but it was never going to last forever.

I can go out for lunch tomorrow with my wife and instantly lose up to a grand if I want to, all I'm left with is the memories of the experience and what I flush down the toilet the next day.
Different things entirely... I went out last night in Lagos with a friend and ran up a large tab drinking rare Tequillas... I didn't lose money, I spent it doing something I enjoy.

For me, I couldn't spend £90,000 on a brand new Emira, when I know an eight month old one with less than 3000 miles is just over £70,000.
Lagos isn't somewhere people like to go either. VI, end up in pats bar, fighting off the gas cookers, then back to the 4 points/Eko.

It's also 1500N/£ on the black market so there's no chance you lost money!
Lagos, Portugal.

MrC986

3,533 posts

193 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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I think it just shows we are now back in a more normal car market where unless it is a really special new car, you can lose 20% as soon as you roll it out of the showroom - I still think the Emira is a great looking car & I hope Lotus throttle back production slightly as there's no point in building lots of cars for stock.

p4cks

6,956 posts

201 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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Aye, the days of making money from a car are mostly over.

BertBert

19,198 posts

213 months

Friday 8th December 2023
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MrC986 said:
I think it just shows we are now back in a more normal car market where unless it is a really special new car, you can lose 20% as soon as you roll it out of the showroom - I still think the Emira is a great looking car & I hope Lotus throttle back production slightly as there's no point in building lots of cars for stock.
Throttle back from almost none to none then?

AceRockatansky

2,186 posts

29 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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BertBert said:
MrC986 said:
I think it just shows we are now back in a more normal car market where unless it is a really special new car, you can lose 20% as soon as you roll it out of the showroom - I still think the Emira is a great looking car & I hope Lotus throttle back production slightly as there's no point in building lots of cars for stock.
Throttle back from almost none to none then?
They need to start making the 4 cylinder like they promised. When's that due now?

BertBert

19,198 posts

213 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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AceRockatansky said:
They need to start making the 4 cylinder like they promised. When's that due now?
For the UK next summer at the earliest. What a joke!

highway

1,986 posts

262 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Why is the i4 so massively delayed? It was tested by Harry on his channel in the summer. I thought that was a pre production car, just before launch? Is the delay result of them trying to resolve the complaints about speed of gear change?

fridaypassion

8,759 posts

230 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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I'm not sure anyone really knows. I heard they were having major issues with heat containment. It seems odd given that a finished car was driven absolutely ages ago. No communication from Lotus. It takes 5 minutes to put a statement out. You have to wonder when heads will start rolling at Hethel why have Geely not parachuted in a fresh management team? Would that be because its not important as the whole takeover is just an IP and asset stripping job?

Sukh13

780 posts

187 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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AceRockatansky said:
They need to start making the 4 cylinder like they promised. When's that due now?
The problem they will have is that the pre reg v6s will be cheaper!

AceRockatansky

2,186 posts

29 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Sukh13 said:
AceRockatansky said:
They need to start making the 4 cylinder like they promised. When's that due now?
The problem they will have is that the pre reg v6s will be cheaper!
They won't be DCT, which is the proper auto if people want it on the M139. That engine and gearbox is massively tunable and it's the combo to have. Not that rubbish IPS.

A 500hp Ermira will be the sweet spot.

highway

1,986 posts

262 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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fridaypassion said:
I'm not sure anyone really knows. I heard they were having major issues with heat containment. It seems odd given that a finished car was driven absolutely ages ago. No communication from Lotus. It takes 5 minutes to put a statement out. You have to wonder when heads will start rolling at Hethel why have Geely not parachuted in a fresh management team? Would that be because its not important as the whole takeover is just an IP and asset stripping job?
That’s a cynical view. I hope you are wrong. While I have your attention, what’s happening with post 2017 Elise prices? The cars available don’t seem to sell, many have been glued to the classifieds for seasons. I’d be happy to see a return to pre Covid prices. 2017/2018 cars, when are still advertised at close to what they cost new close to 7 years ago.

fridaypassion

8,759 posts

230 months

Saturday 9th December 2023
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Unfortunately I'm realistic rather than anything else

Dr Interceptor

7,852 posts

198 months

Sunday 10th December 2023
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highway said:
Why is the i4 so massively delayed?
It’s not delayed, it’s ready. I4 cars are being built now for export to the far east (China).

However, Lotus have cocked up, and the car does not have type approval. This all changed on 1st January 2023, I remember when my corvette was delivered in Sept 22, the dealer saying cars had to be handed over before the end of the year as type approval changed from EU to UK. A Brexit thing.

That’s why the press demonstrator(s) that exist are on 72 plates.

I4 deliveries for EU/UK cars won’t be until summer 2024.



Honeywell

1,386 posts

100 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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£65k now on Autotrader privately.

Poor colour choices aside.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311164...

stanlow45

304 posts

8 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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Honeywell said:
£65k now on Autotrader privately.

Poor colour choices aside.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311164...
Weird price history. Dealers must really hate the price tracker add on... laugh



Most likely will be down to starting with a 5 from January...

Sukh13

780 posts

187 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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I think 60k would see that one sold this side of Christmas.

I'd rather have that than a 2016 991.2 at the same price...

highway

1,986 posts

262 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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That’s a poor colour. That aside, I’d buy one any colour with sub 2k miles at £55k.
I’m looking at 991.2 but they are much older, have many more miles and- the 992 interior makes them look old.
I can’t afford further mission creep leading to consider a 992. They don’t seem to be available much less than £80k.

BertBert

19,198 posts

213 months

Tuesday 12th December 2023
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at 55k you wouldn't be too worried about the mileage I would have thought.