Anyone placed an Order for the Taycan yet?
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sealtt said:
My 4S+ spec comes out to £101k... not sure if I’d be better off just getting the turbo (£120k for same spec and with turbo performance extras). What have you guys decided if you’ve been in this situation.
you'd be mad not to imo, the 4s just isn't that fast for an electric car too imoWCZ said:
sealtt said:
My 4S+ spec comes out to £101k... not sure if I’d be better off just getting the turbo (£120k for same spec and with turbo performance extras). What have you guys decided if you’ve been in this situation.
you'd be mad not to imo, the 4s just isn't that fast for an electric car too imoWCZ said:
sealtt said:
My 4S+ spec comes out to £101k... not sure if I’d be better off just getting the turbo (£120k for same spec and with turbo performance extras). What have you guys decided if you’ve been in this situation.
you'd be mad not to imo, the 4s just isn't that fast for an electric car too imoI was told today that on a 4S the extra battery and 2+1 rear seat are options that GFV is sensitive to. I could have had a Turbo for April build if I specced today but want to do the comparison in detail on 4S and Turbo and GFV. Don’t normally buy cars on finance but I’ll look to on Taycan as this is an unknown world for me.
Edited by Cheib on Monday 10th February 18:22
cc3 said:
Turbo was pretty quick on Top Gear last night. Stig did a fast lap which was pretty impressive given the weight
It was better than that, an absolutely bombastic, physics defying lap !Just watched a Smoking Tire video with that Matt guy, far from a great presenter and he drives clumsily but the speed was astonishing.
He drained 40% of the battery in only 17 miles on open public roads !
Had a go at speccing a Turbo and 4S and I have a feeling ownership of the Turbo may be cheaper....extra’s on Turbo about £9k,.,,on the 4s over £20k. A lot of the extra spec on the Turbo are things I would spec Bose, 20” wheels, leather, LED lights, Battery metallic paint, 14 way seats etc
Be interesting to see what the OPC’s Business Manager comes back with on cost.
Be interesting to see what the OPC’s Business Manager comes back with on cost.
sealtt said:
Hm yes interesting, well as I had forgotten VAT could not be claimed on company cars, I will need to whittle down my options list to the bare minimum to keep the idea viable! So probably not a turbo for me...
Not strictly true. If the car is contract hire for a business then 50% of the VAT on the payments can be claimed back, and 100% of the rental cost against tax. Add-in 0% BIK from April and I can see a lot of these being company rents.We've been on the verge of placing an order for a few weeks now but are struggling to find insurance at a sensible price.
Plan had been to use a 4S as a daily but I'll confess that I'm baulking a bit at the thought of this being our most expensive vehicle to insure (by a significant margin).
Going to speak to dealer but wondered how people here have found the insurance market for these?
Plan had been to use a 4S as a daily but I'll confess that I'm baulking a bit at the thought of this being our most expensive vehicle to insure (by a significant margin).
Going to speak to dealer but wondered how people here have found the insurance market for these?
MrOrange said:
Not strictly true. If the car is contract hire for a business then 50% of the VAT on the payments can be claimed back, and 100% of the rental cost against tax. Add-in 0% BIK from April and I can see a lot of these being company rents.
I had been looking to purchase outright with my company but will need to go back to the drawing board as may be beneficial to lease as you say, although you do lose the £3500 subsidy.LooneyTunes said:
We've been on the verge of placing an order for a few weeks now but are struggling to find insurance at a sensible price.
Plan had been to use a 4S as a daily but I'll confess that I'm baulking a bit at the thought of this being our most expensive vehicle to insure (by a significant margin).
Going to speak to dealer but wondered how people here have found the insurance market for these?
That's a good point, please let us know how you get on. I tried to change the car online just to get pricing and they said it couldn't be done, I'd have to call - so maybe you are missing out on a lot of quotes as they aren't geared up to quote online for this vehicle yet for some reason.Plan had been to use a 4S as a daily but I'll confess that I'm baulking a bit at the thought of this being our most expensive vehicle to insure (by a significant margin).
Going to speak to dealer but wondered how people here have found the insurance market for these?
Cheib said:
WCZ said:
sealtt said:
My 4S+ spec comes out to £101k... not sure if I’d be better off just getting the turbo (£120k for same spec and with turbo performance extras). What have you guys decided if you’ve been in this situation.
you'd be mad not to imo, the 4s just isn't that fast for an electric car too imoI was told today that on a 4S the extra battery and 2+1 rear seat are options that GFV is sensitive to. I could have had a Turbo for April build if I specced today but want to do the comparison in detail on 4S and Turbo and GFV. Don’t normally buy cars on finance but I’ll look to on Taycan as this is an unknown world for me.
Edited by Cheib on Monday 10th February 18:22
TX.
Edit - Vid posted by Ags above.
sealtt said:
MrOrange said:
Not strictly true. If the car is contract hire for a business then 50% of the VAT on the payments can be claimed back, and 100% of the rental cost against tax. Add-in 0% BIK from April and I can see a lot of these being company rents.
I had been looking to purchase outright with my company but will need to go back to the drawing board as may be beneficial to lease as you say, although you do lose the £3500 subsidy.ras62 said:
40% battery in 17 miles
If that is even close to fact then Porsche are about to score a spectacular own goal. I found it odd Harris didn't mention the cars range once.
that was with spirited driving but either way it's a concern - it's bad enough having an electric car in terms of paranoia about being able to get home but worrying about putting your foot down too is a further irritant If that is even close to fact then Porsche are about to score a spectacular own goal. I found it odd Harris didn't mention the cars range once.
that being said it's not uncommon for bad ranges in supercars - there's a guy on here who gets around 79miles to a tank on his Aventador S if driving aggressive and never more than 130 if not.
WCZ said:
ras62 said:
40% battery in 17 miles
If that is even close to fact then Porsche are about to score a spectacular own goal. I found it odd Harris didn't mention the cars range once.
that was with spirited driving but either way it's a concern - it's bad enough having an electric car in terms of paranoia about being able to get home but worrying about putting your foot down too is a further irritant If that is even close to fact then Porsche are about to score a spectacular own goal. I found it odd Harris didn't mention the cars range once.
that being said it's not uncommon for bad ranges in supercars - there's a guy on here who gets around 79miles to a tank on his Aventador S if driving aggressive and never more than 130 if not.
What’s the point of a super rocket if the battery drains that quick and you need an hour to charge up again?
Are electric cars kind of based on tootling around with the odd squirt? Must be infuriating if you are somewhere without quick chargers.
sealtt said:
LooneyTunes said:
We've been on the verge of placing an order for a few weeks now but are struggling to find insurance at a sensible price.
Plan had been to use a 4S as a daily but I'll confess that I'm baulking a bit at the thought of this being our most expensive vehicle to insure (by a significant margin).
Going to speak to dealer but wondered how people here have found the insurance market for these?
That's a good point, please let us know how you get on. I tried to change the car online just to get pricing and they said it couldn't be done, I'd have to call - so maybe you are missing out on a lot of quotes as they aren't geared up to quote online for this vehicle yet for some reason.Plan had been to use a 4S as a daily but I'll confess that I'm baulking a bit at the thought of this being our most expensive vehicle to insure (by a significant margin).
Going to speak to dealer but wondered how people here have found the insurance market for these?
Only conclusion I can come to is that insurers are crapping themselves about the absence of independent repairers and the potential costs in the event of claims.
Right now the only way I can make it add up is to look at total cost of ownership and use some of the fuel savings to offset considerably higher insurance premiums.
MrOrange said:
Ah, but you do, indirectly, as the lease company gets the reduction against it's purchase price, or to be more exact Porsche knock that off the buy price. You do lose the 100% WDA but that was more more of a cashflow thing anyway.
Oh interesting, thanks for explaining. I am going to discuss options with a leasing broker as they seem about 20% cheaper than Porsche contract hire direct, and I am just not that confident about residuals to buy one cash myself now that I realise VAT can't be reclaimed.LooneyTunes said:
Most competitive so far, from combination of online and broker discussions around indicative numbers, is approx £2k (with many years NCB!). By way of comparison, that's four to five times what it would cost me to insure a new 911 4S of the same value.
Only conclusion I can come to is that insurers are crapping themselves about the absence of independent repairers and the potential costs in the event of claims.
Right now the only way I can make it add up is to look at total cost of ownership and use some of the fuel savings to offset considerably higher insurance premiums.
Thanks for confirming, that is very useful information and important for buyers to know to ensure we go in with our eyes open about all costs.Only conclusion I can come to is that insurers are crapping themselves about the absence of independent repairers and the potential costs in the event of claims.
Right now the only way I can make it add up is to look at total cost of ownership and use some of the fuel savings to offset considerably higher insurance premiums.
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