Anyone placed an Order for the Taycan yet?

[DMC2]

Melvynr said:

It will be a total disaster if Porsche put it into production for UK. Only 4 charging points in the whole of UK, charging in your home will be 24 hours for full charge and at what cost. Fooken things will be lethal on the road with no sound.

Completely missing the point of how an electric car works. How often do you do 200 miles in a day?!? You top it up every night, very rarely will you ever need to fully charge it. And if you do, it will fully charge overnight with a 3 phase home charger in 9 hrs. And there are loads of 50kw fast chargers about which will fully charge a Turbo S Taycan in roughly 70 minutes. It's just the super super fast chargers which haven't been rolled out yet. They will blast it in 20 minutes.

[Melvynr]

DMC2 said:

Completely missing the point of how an electric car works. How often do you do 200 miles in a day?!? You top it up every night, very rarely will you ever need to fully charge it. And if you do, it will fully charge overnight with a 3 phase home charger in 9 hrs. And there are loads of 50kw fast chargers about which will fully charge a Turbo S Taycan in roughly 70 minutes. It's just the super super fast chargers which haven't been rolled out yet. They will blast it in 20 minutes.

Missing the point of what exactly, you open that car up and you won't get 50 miles. I live on the 20th floor of a highrise, how am I meant to charge it . It's not hard to enjoy your car and lose 200 miles in 3-4 hours.
How much will it cost to charge it in your garage overnight, I think I read somewhere the I3 takes about 5 hours to get an 80 per cent charge , so good luck on the Taycan taking 70 minutes.

[DMC2]

Melvynr said:

Missing the point of what exactly, you open that car up and you won't get 50 miles. I live on the 20th floor of a highrise, how am I meant to charge it . It's not hard to enjoy your car and lose 200 miles in 3-4 hours.
How much will it cost to charge it in your garage overnight, I think I read somewhere the I3 takes about 5 hours to get an 80 per cent charge , so good luck on the Taycan taking 70 minutes.

You are obviously not the target audience for a £100k electric car if you show that sort of ignorance. Read up on charging rates. The i3 will take 5 hours on a basic 3 phase. 30 minutes on a 50kw charging point.

[MrOrange]

Melvynr said:

Missing the point of what exactly, you open that car up and you won't get 50 miles. I live on the 20th floor of a highrise, how am I meant to charge it . It's not hard to enjoy your car and lose 200 miles in 3-4 hours.
How much will it cost to charge it in your garage overnight, I think I read somewhere the I3 takes about 5 hours to get an 80 per cent charge , so good luck on the Taycan taking 70 minutes.

A standard "home charger" (the almost freebie ones) is 7kW so at 3 miles per kW it will give you a "full charge" overnight starting from a decent SoC (or about 250 normal road miles per day, that's 75,000 miles of charge every year it you leave it plugged in for 12 hrs per day.)

The same would apply if you were using destination charging, a nice hotel should give you 200+ miles charge per night, your workplace should get you over 100 miles charged per day. Then, and only then, do you really need to use fast chargers, typically on a long journey or where no destination charging is available. Besides, they are expensive.

[Melvynr]

DMC2 said:

You are obviously not the target audience for a £100k electric car if you show that sort of ignorance. Read up on charging rates. The i3 will take 5 hours on a basic 3 phase. 30 minutes on a 50kw charging point.

I wouldn't have one if I was offered one for free.

[Melvynr]

MrOrange said:

A standard "home charger" (the almost freebie ones) is 7kW so at 3 miles per kW it will give you a "full charge" overnight starting from a decent SoC (or about 250 normal road miles per day, that's 75,000 miles of charge every year it you leave it plugged in for 12 hrs per day.)

The same would apply if you were using destination charging, a nice hotel should give you 200+ miles charge per night, your workplace should get you over 100 miles charged per day. Then, and only then, do you really need to use fast chargers, typically on a long journey or where no destination charging is available. Besides, they are expensive.

All sounds good but for one problem that will take forever, Infrastructure.

[p1stonhead]

Melvynr said:

DMC2 said:

You are obviously not the target audience for a £100k electric car if you show that sort of ignorance. Read up on charging rates. The i3 will take 5 hours on a basic 3 phase. 30 minutes on a 50kw charging point.

I wouldn't have one if I was offered one for free.

bks.

[PushedDover]

+1

After the CH love - you’d not take one of for free??

Lolololololo

[Taffy66]

sealtt said:

Hm yes interesting, well as I had forgotten VAT could not be claimed on company cars, I will need to whittle down my options list to the bare minimum to keep the idea viable! So probably not a turbo for me...

Vat cab be reclaimed on company cars as long as its used solely for business purposes..The car then becomes 'VAT qualifying' for the next buyer if he/she chooses to reclaim VAT..

[Melvynr]

p1stonhead said:

bks.

Honest

[Melvynr]

PushedDover said:

+1

After the CH love - you’d not take one of for free??

Lolololololo

Well maybe for free

Edited by Melvynr on Tuesday 11th February 18:51

[DMC2]

Melvynr said:

DMC2 said:

You are obviously not the target audience for a £100k electric car if you show that sort of ignorance. Read up on charging rates. The i3 will take 5 hours on a basic 3 phase. 30 minutes on a 50kw charging point.

I wouldn't have one if I was offered one for free.

Ha. So you’ve proved me right, you are a moron.

[MrOrange]

Melvynr said:

All sounds good but for one problem that will take forever, Infrastructure.

Are you living in the 1950s? And one hopes you’re not daft enough to fall for the “we need 25 new nuclear power stations” rhetoric.

• Every house has electricity, usually way more than needed.
• Loads of hotels have charge points, some even have fast chargers.
• Many workplaces now have charge points, often for free.
• Fast chargers are appearing across the U.K. network at a hell of a rate, whilst the number of fuel stations has fallen dramatically.

Plus, legislation is coming that will mostly kill off ICE cars in less than one generation - or ICE will ceases to be relevant against EV in the same way steam trains lost out to diesel-electric and then electrification.

Conclusion: You must be trolling, or you are on the wrong thread

Apologies for rising to this, but I am staggered at the level of ignorance generally batted about on the EV vs ICE. Both have a place for the next few years, but after that it’s one-way flight to obsolescence for ICE (excepting the classic and shed scene)

[Melvynr]

DMC2 said:

Ha. So you’ve proved me right, you are a moron.

Watch that butterfly does not bite your ankle there as your typing

[Melvynr]

MrOrange said:

Are you living in the 1950s? And one hopes you’re not daft enough to fall for the “we need 25 new nuclear power stations” rhetoric.

• Every house has electricity, usually way more than needed.
• Loads of hotels have charge points, some even have fast chargers.
• Many workplaces now have charge points, often for free.
• Fast chargers are appearing across the U.K. network at a hell of a rate, whilst the number of fuel stations has fallen dramatically.

Plus, legislation is coming that will mostly kill off ICE cars in less than one generation - or ICE will ceases to be relevant against EV in the same way steam trains lost out to diesel-electric and then electrification.

Conclusion: You must be trolling, or you are on the wrong thread

Apologies for rising to this, but I am staggered at the level of ignorance generally batted about on the EV vs ICE. Both have a place for the next few years, but after that it’s one-way flight to obsolescence for ICE (excepting the classic and shed scene)

You fooking idiots need rounding up and put on the top of Rockall, go google that .

[SpyderT]

As a business owner with 3 phrase on the drive is a 4S a no-brainer to lease as it's essentially a freebie car? I've been told GFV is 60% - higher than any other Porsche model. My OPC seems to think once you've test driven one you'll want it although I'm sceptical as concerns are about the lack of soul, silence and size. Anyone else as undecided? Will investigate insurance.

[Taffy66]

SpyderT said:

As a business owner with 3 phrase on the drive is a 4S a no-brainer to lease as it's essentially a freebie car? I've been told GFV is 60% - higher than any other Porsche model. My OPC seems to think once you've test driven one you'll want it although I'm sceptical as concerns are about the lack of soul, silence and size. Anyone else as undecided? Will investigate insurance.

Same situation as i am..I've changed my order from Turbo to 4S to get an earlier car..A S/E business owner paying high rate tax will run a Taycan cheaply especially if he's got a suitable home charging set-up.

[Cheib]

Taffy66 said:

SpyderT said:

As a business owner with 3 phrase on the drive is a 4S a no-brainer to lease as it's essentially a freebie car? I've been told GFV is 60% - higher than any other Porsche model. My OPC seems to think once you've test driven one you'll want it although I'm sceptical as concerns are about the lack of soul, silence and size. Anyone else as undecided? Will investigate insurance.

Same situation as i am..I've changed my order from Turbo to 4S to get an earlier car..A S/E business owner paying high rate tax will run a Taycan cheaply especially if he's got a suitable home charging set-up.

I was offered a Turbo yesterday for April build but had to be locked down (didn’t want to be rushed so declined) and 4S availability is a couple of months later. I think a lot of people had done switched to 4S because of price. Honestly have no idea why anyone would spec a Turbo S...properly expensive !

[SpyderT]

Taffy66 said:

Same situation as i am..I've changed my order from Turbo to 4S to get an earlier car..A S/E business owner paying high rate tax will run a Taycan cheaply especially if he's got a suitable home charging set-up.

I think the 4S will be more than adequate. Look forward to hearing your views when you get it. I certainly wouldn't put my personal money into this as I'd get a Macan Turbo instead but this Taycan is a very tempting proposition from a BIK POV. I was told July for the 4S's - if fully refundable deposit down before launch.

Edited by SpyderT on Tuesday 11th February 22:14

[Taffy66]

SpyderT said:

I think the 4S will be more than adequate. Look forward to hearing your views when you get it. I certainly wouldn't put my personal money into this as I'd get a Macan Turbo instead but this Taycan is a very tempting proposition from a BIK POV. I was told July for the 4S's - if fully refundable deposit down before launch.

Edited by SpyderT on Tuesday 11th February 22:14

I was told only last night that that my OPCs first builds will be May and expected delivery June or July on the 4S..If i wanted a Turbo it would have been in the fourth quarter and i paid my £5k deposit on launch day..!