Anyone placed an Order for the Taycan yet?

[danjp]

I just can’t see those residuals working out- I think these only make sense with a company tax write-down, and when they get sold on used, you can’t take advantage of the WDA.. I’d like one, and could probably get by fine with charging at home, but I think I need to wait and see.. I’d probably like an electric Macan, based on my experience with the Cayenne hybrid, and I see that as being more sought after probably.

[LooneyTunes]

Cheib said:

I was offered a Turbo yesterday for April build but had to be locked down (didn’t want to be rushed so declined) and 4S availability is a couple of months later. I think a lot of people had done switched to 4S because of price. Honestly have no idea why anyone would spec a Turbo S...properly expensive !

We were told yesterday that 4S is now Dec delivery. As a result of this and the insurance situation (there isn't a Porsche scheme) we've decided not to place an order for a Taycan.

Strongly suspect we'll end up ordering a Macan or Cayenne before revisiting electric options in a few years time.

[hunter 66]

Sat in the Taycan at the PEC and must admit a very polished article ( norm for Porsche ) after the X . But the network for Tesla is helpful . Looking at it the real difference is the Taycan is for people who like to drive , Tesla is transport for the internet generation .

[Robbo66]

danjp said:

I just can’t see those residuals working out- I think these only make sense with a company tax write-down, and when they get sold on used, you can’t take advantage of the WDA.. .

Exactly, and that's being conveniently overlooked for some reason. You try and sell one of these puppies in two years when you'll be driving around in the automotive equivalent of a Betamax Tape. No one in their right mind would ever buy one of these second hand.

[Yellow491]

Robbo66 said:

danjp said:

I just can’t see those residuals working out- I think these only make sense with a company tax write-down, and when they get sold on used, you can’t take advantage of the WDA.. .

Exactly, and that's being conveniently overlooked for some reason. You try and sell one of these puppies in two years when you'll be driving around in the automotive equivalent of a Betamax Tape. No one in their right mind would ever buy one of these second hand.

Just look at tesla used market,i will keep chuffing out deisel fumes.

[Robbo66]

Yellow491 said:

Just look at tesla used market,i will keep chuffing out deisel fumes.

Talk about getting sucked in P....OPC salesmen must be rubbing their hands here....then high fiving when their 'prey' has signed and on way out of beautifully appointed glass revolving door.

[hunter 66]

Not really Yellow ..........maybe a battery upgrade in 8 years . In the meantime as the early Teslas get free supercharging they are the valuable ones ..
In 3 years and 24 k miles the total cost of my X has been £36 ........total
If you know of another car that can have those costs .
Brakes are like PCCB but not need to ever change the pads even ... no pollution from pad dust as you rarely touch the brakes due to regenerative braking .....

So , bottom line more money to run mt 01 GT3 RS in the ERL this year .... REAL man maths

[SpyderT]

Robbo66 said:

danjp said:

I just can’t see those residuals working out- I think these only make sense with a company tax write-down, and when they get sold on used, you can’t take advantage of the WDA.. .

Exactly, and that's being conveniently overlooked for some reason. You try and sell one of these puppies in two years when you'll be driving around in the automotive equivalent of a Betamax Tape. No one in their right mind would ever buy one of these second hand.

Isn't that the point of leasing them - you just hand them back or am I missing something?

[Taffy66]

hunter 66 said:

Not really Yellow ..........maybe a battery upgrade in 8 years . In the meantime as the early Teslas get free supercharging they are the valuable ones ..
In 3 years and 24 k miles the total cost of my X has been £36 ........total
If you know of another car that can have those costs .
Brakes are like PCCB but not need to ever change the pads even ... no pollution from pad dust as you rarely touch the brakes due to regenerative braking .....

So , bottom line more money to run mt 01 GT3 RS in the ERL this year .... REAL man maths

You're a smart guy Hunter which is quite rare on Pistonheads..All cities will have daily congestion charges in a year or two..I have virtually free unlimited electricity courtesy of my commercial solar array.100% first year WDA, free fuel, zero road tax,no congestion charge, no local emissions and not contributing to the foul air quality all UK cities suffer from which causes all manner of ill health including asthma in kids.
In terms of the dreaded depreciation which some are so obsessed with, there are two solutions..Either lease or PCP and hand the car back after the end of the term or just keep it longer.
Add in that Chris Harris said last Sunday on Top Gear that its one of the best cars he's driven just like what Andrew Frankel said when he tested it..
Dinosaurs went extinct because they failed to adapt to the changing environment..

[hunter 66]

Haha , yes Taffy actually not as bad a move as we fear , especially with Taycan . Yes only pay £10 for the whole years congestion charge and in Westminster , the maximum parking charge is 80 p for the day ......... so another 10 k saving a year in the big smoke . Must be the Scottish heritage

[Robbo66]

SpyderT said:

Isn't that the point of leasing them - you just hand them back or am I missing something?

All depends on the Terms and or GFV. They will be next to worthless second hand, with WDA at 100% not applicable, then there's the tech race issue.

[hunter 66]

Yellow would be interesting to see someone take a Taycan Turbo up Prescott .... in June .

[Greenie]

Taffy66 said:

SpyderT said:

I think the 4S will be more than adequate. Look forward to hearing your views when you get it. I certainly wouldn't put my personal money into this as I'd get a Macan Turbo instead but this Taycan is a very tempting proposition from a BIK POV. I was told July for the 4S's - if fully refundable deposit down before launch.

Edited by SpyderT on Tuesday 11th February 22:14

I was told only last night that that my OPCs first builds will be May and expected delivery June or July on the 4S..If i wanted a Turbo it would have been in the fourth quarter and i paid my £5k deposit on launch day..!

Got the feeling I will be getting the same call. Previously been told April with update at end of Jan-despite excellent communication upto this point the dealer has gone a bit quiet so expecting a delayed delivery date. Also ordered early doors.

[noneedtolift]

Lots of deliveries being pushed back apparently. Mine was originally scheduled for January and has finally showed up today (German dealer).
Can't wait now...

[Cheib]

LooneyTunes said:

Cheib said:

I was offered a Turbo yesterday for April build but had to be locked down (didn’t want to be rushed so declined) and 4S availability is a couple of months later. I think a lot of people had done switched to 4S because of price. Honestly have no idea why anyone would spec a Turbo S...properly expensive !

We were told yesterday that 4S is now Dec delivery. As a result of this and the insurance situation (there isn't a Porsche scheme) we've decided not to place an order for a Taycan.

Strongly suspect we'll end up ordering a Macan or Cayenne before revisiting electric options in a few years time.

Maybe I am lucky...although I did put a deposit down first day they were launched so maybe that gives me some priority at my OPC

[Terminator X]

hunter 66 said:

Not really Yellow ..........maybe a battery upgrade in 8 years . In the meantime as the early Teslas get free supercharging they are the valuable ones ..
In 3 years and 24 k miles the total cost of my X has been £36 ........total
If you know of another car that can have those costs .
Brakes are like PCCB but not need to ever change the pads even ... no pollution from pad dust as you rarely touch the brakes due to regenerative braking .....

So , bottom line more money to run mt 01 GT3 RS in the ERL this year .... REAL man maths

You mean maintenance yes? £36 seriously? No tyres? What else needs maintenance in a leccy car? I have no reason to doubt you so presumably garages are fked when 2035 arrives ...

What about depreciation? Cost of leccy?

TX.

[sealtt]

LooneyTunes said:

We were told yesterday that 4S is now Dec delivery. As a result of this and the insurance situation (there isn't a Porsche scheme) we've decided not to place an order for a Taycan.

Strongly suspect we'll end up ordering a Macan or Cayenne before revisiting electric options in a few years time.

Just to share my findings on insurance... I am getting comparison quotes of £800-£900 for the Taycan 4S+. For reference I pay £1250 on our 2017 Range Rover Vogue SE 3.0 and £700 on a 2019 Ford Ranger 3.2.

Meanwhile to make the lease numbers work I am cutting my options list right down to basics, though not the easiest when it comes to Porsche... I cannot believe that it does not have a reversing camera as standard!

[boxsey]

Taffy66 said:

Dinosaurs went extinct because they failed to adapt to the changing environment..

That's a bit harsh on the dinosaurs mate as they were hardly equipped to deal with it. Mind you, I don't fancy our chances of surviving the same fate either!

[hunter 66]

Terminator X said:

You mean maintenance yes? £36 seriously? No tyres? What else needs maintenance in a leccy car? I have no reason to doubt you so presumably garages are fked when 2035 arrives ...

What about depreciation? Cost of leccy?

TX.

Looks like it will need tyres for the first MOT in a few weeks , but nothing else ...... Leccy for free for the life of the car from Superchargers ... and local tennis club also has no cost option .. so covered

[Digga]

boxsey said:

Taffy66 said:

Dinosaurs went extinct because they failed to adapt to the changing environment..

That's a bit harsh on the dinosaurs mate as they were hardly equipped to deal with it. Mind you, I don't fancy our chances of surviving the same fate either!

Yes, I think even EVs would succumb to another large meteorite strike.

Would certainly play havoc with all the windymills and solar panels.