Taycan 4S Cross Turismo

[Flying machine]

Ken Figenus said:

Just had the big software update - the new power flow diag indicates it decouples the front motor on any steady state cruising and with resultant range increase. Be interesting to see what it will predict for a full charge and if it bests the 279 miles max prediction i used to get.

Just reminded me that I need to follow up and get mine booked in for the software update. Is yours a 4S? My Turbo estimates around 240 from full, and I think that it is a pessimistic estimation based on using the car for long motorway journeys. Which is completely the opposite to its Tesla predecessor, which would always over estimate its range quite considerably I found.

[Ken Figenus]

Yeah 4S. It has hiked absolute max range from 279 to this:



Its also clear to see how it now disengages the front motor seamlessly once you are at a steady state cruising speed. Android auto is wireless and it has Spotify and a good few minor PCM tweaks for the better. The thing feels like a F1 car compared to the sobering Cayenne Coupe loaner on steel springs too - so glad to have it back!!!

[JJMatrixx]

Has anyone else noticed a significant improvement to the sound system following the update? I felt the Bose was terrible before and now there's a significant increase in base.

Also, side note, but when braking, it feels like the initial travel on the pedal engages more regen, not the actual brakes themselves. When I first got the car it felt pretty unnerving as the amount of travel in the brake pedal for decent bite in the brakes is more than I'd like. Super smart tech if it's transitioning regen to brakes depending on pedal pressure but also too smart for its own good as it gives odd brake feel. Does anyone else feel this?

[Digga]

JJMatrixx said:

Has anyone else noticed a significant improvement to the sound system following the update? I felt the Bose was terrible before and now there's a significant increase in base.

Also, side note, but when braking, it feels like the initial travel on the pedal engages more regen, not the actual brakes themselves. When I first got the car it felt pretty unnerving as the amount of travel in the brake pedal for decent bite in the brakes is more than I'd like. Super smart tech if it's transitioning regen to brakes depending on pedal pressure but also too smart for its own good as it gives odd brake feel. Does anyone else feel this?

The brakes are IME very odd, full stop. Or not full stop sometimes.

There are certain times, approaching a junction after a long straight, on a slight downhill gradient, where you feel like you're having to stand on the pedal. You can mitigate by switching the regen on, but it is still a slightly uncomfortable feeling.

Slightly OT, but I use the regen button a lot for helping to control road speed. It's especially helpful if you are on A and B roads in a queue of plodders and you want to gently maintain gap from vehicle in front.

[JJMatrixx]

Digga said:

JJMatrixx said:

Has anyone else noticed a significant improvement to the sound system following the update? I felt the Bose was terrible before and now there's a significant increase in base.

Also, side note, but when braking, it feels like the initial travel on the pedal engages more regen, not the actual brakes themselves. When I first got the car it felt pretty unnerving as the amount of travel in the brake pedal for decent bite in the brakes is more than I'd like. Super smart tech if it's transitioning regen to brakes depending on pedal pressure but also too smart for its own good as it gives odd brake feel. Does anyone else feel this?

The brakes are IME very odd, full stop. Or not full stop sometimes.

There are certain times, approaching a junction after a long straight, on a slight downhill gradient, where you feel like you're having to stand on the pedal. You can mitigate by switching the regen on, but it is still a slightly uncomfortable feeling.

Slightly OT, but I use the regen button a lot for helping to control road speed. It's especially helpful if you are on A and B roads in a queue of plodders and you want to gently maintain gap from vehicle in front.

Ok, so not just me then...phew I haven't seen any journalists mention anything about it, which is a bit odd. I know they need to say the right things but nobody has even acknowledged it. And yes, at times it feels like you need to jump on the brakes. My regen is always on as the feeling of constant coast without it is also bizarre.

[Digga]

JJMatrixx said:

Ok, so not just me then...phew I haven't seen any journalists mention anything about it, which is a bit odd. I know they need to say the right things but nobody has even acknowledged it. And yes, at times it feels like you need to jump on the brakes. My regen is always on as the feeling of constant coast without it is also bizarre.

Well, i think that is the really clever bit.

On a Jaguar I-Pace, the whole single pedal driving thing is very much a reality and gives its own sense of ease and comfort.

However, IMHO the engineers at Porsche have created something very, very special with the 'coast' on standard driving mode. It really does intuitively keep your speed. On a long journey, if you need to reposition or flex your foot, briefly removing it from the throttle does not make the car dive. I find the coasting, combined with the decent torque, makes many journeys feel utterly effortless.

[JJMatrixx]

Digga said:

JJMatrixx said:

Ok, so not just me then...phew I haven't seen any journalists mention anything about it, which is a bit odd. I know they need to say the right things but nobody has even acknowledged it. And yes, at times it feels like you need to jump on the brakes. My regen is always on as the feeling of constant coast without it is also bizarre.

Well, i think that is the really clever bit.

On a Jaguar I-Pace, the whole single pedal driving thing is very much a reality and gives its own sense of ease and comfort.

However, IMHO the engineers at Porsche have created something very, very special with the 'coast' on standard driving mode. It really does intuitively keep your speed. On a long journey, if you need to reposition or flex your foot, briefly removing it from the throttle does not make the car dive. I find the coasting, combined with the decent torque, makes many journeys feel utterly effortless.

I spec'd InnoDrive so a coast function is really in no way useful.

[Ken Figenus]

JJMatrixx said:

at times it feels like you need to jump on the brakes. My regen is always on as the feeling of constant coast without it is also bizarre.

This is likely the times it uses mechanical brakes only to clean the disks - happens more often if it knows the wipers are on. It is a bit disconcerting as you require much more pedal pressure which you weren't expecting.

I love the feel of the regen brakes and they way the physics means they auto ease off as you come to a stop - the transition to mech brakes for last meter is pretty slick too. Don't forget Auto regen (press and hold) as this coasts or regens dependent on anything being in front of you.

I'm getting a clunk from rear door/rear quarter as I drive off after this update - could be a door locking late? Could be just me?

[BorkBorkBork]

The PVTS (or car security package) is up for renewal at the end of this month, but I can’t find anywhere in the My Porsche app, either desktop or mobile, where I can renew it. Anyone any ideas? When I click through into the service, there’s no option to renew?

• edit** I’ve found this now. You have to go to the Porsche Connect Store, where you can view your active contracts. They both auto renew.

On a related note, the Porsche Charging Service is up at the same time. This is fine as it states renewal will be automatic. Are the prices still as advertised for this? As I see the price per KWh has never changed and still states 31p per kWh. I realise there is also a price per minute for using a public charger, unless it’s Ionity. But as I’ve just had an email from Osprey with a price increase to £1 per kWh, the Porsche charging service suddenly looks viable again.

Edited by BorkBorkBork on Thursday 15th September 09:27

[RichDS]

Extended test drive booked for Sunday- feeling quite excited
Only driven model Y and Ioniq 5 electrics this far

[ds666]

BorkBorkBork said:

The PVTS (or car security package) is up for renewal at the end of this month, but I can’t find anywhere in the My Porsche app, either desktop or mobile, where I can renew it. Anyone any ideas? When I click through into the service, there’s no option to renew?

• edit** I’ve found this now. You have to go to the Porsche Connect Store, where you can view your active contracts. They both auto renew.

On a related note, the Porsche Charging Service is up at the same time. This is fine as it states renewal will be automatic. Are the prices still as advertised for this? As I see the price per KWh has never changed and still states 31p per kWh. I realise there is also a price per minute for using a public charger, unless it’s Ionity. But as I’ve just had an email from Osprey with a price increase to £1 per kWh, the Porsche charging service suddenly looks viable again.

Edited by BorkBorkBork on Thursday 15th September 09:27

I'm paying 31p/KWh on the Porsche service - think Ionity is 69p normally ( ?)

[BorkBorkBork]

ds666 said:

BorkBorkBork said:

The PVTS (or car security package) is up for renewal at the end of this month, but I can’t find anywhere in the My Porsche app, either desktop or mobile, where I can renew it. Anyone any ideas? When I click through into the service, there’s no option to renew?

• edit** I’ve found this now. You have to go to the Porsche Connect Store, where you can view your active contracts. They both auto renew.

On a related note, the Porsche Charging Service is up at the same time. This is fine as it states renewal will be automatic. Are the prices still as advertised for this? As I see the price per KWh has never changed and still states 31p per kWh. I realise there is also a price per minute for using a public charger, unless it’s Ionity. But as I’ve just had an email from Osprey with a price increase to £1 per kWh, the Porsche charging service suddenly looks viable again.

Edited by BorkBorkBork on Thursday 15th September 09:27

I'm paying 31p/KWh on the Porsche service - think Ionity is 69p normally ( ?)

Thanks. Currently sat at an Osprey charger, using the Porsche Charging for the first time since last October. I’m assuming they’ll have to increase their prices at some point.

[Murph7355]

ds666 said:

I'm paying 31p/KWh on the Porsche service - think Ionity is 69p normally ( ?)

Crikey.

At 69p per kWh, I reckon our diesel Volvo is about the same price per mile on energy costs alone.

[BorkBorkBork]

Murph7355 said:

ds666 said:

I'm paying 31p/KWh on the Porsche service - think Ionity is 69p normally ( ?)

Crikey.

At 69p per kWh, I reckon our diesel Volvo is about the same price per mile on energy costs alone.

It cost me a combined 58p per kWh with Porsche Charging this morning at an Osprey 50kw charger. Take the VAT off that and it’s still less than half what it was costing me for the RS4 it replaced. Not to mention the additional tax savings.

[Digga]

BorkBorkBork said:

Murph7355 said:

ds666 said:

I'm paying 31p/KWh on the Porsche service - think Ionity is 69p normally ( ?)

Crikey.

At 69p per kWh, I reckon our diesel Volvo is about the same price per mile on energy costs alone.

It cost me a combined 58p per kWh with Porsche Charging this morning at an Osprey 50kw charger. Take the VAT off that and it’s still less than half what it was costing me for the RS4 it replaced. Not to mention the additional tax savings.

If you own a business, it is the combined tax savings which make an EV almost impossible to ignore. Both BIK and also write-down are significant benefits.

[mikeN54]

DMC2 said:

So I was looking at getting a Taycan CT, didn't fancy waiting two years for an order so was going to pick up a used example. Checked on the Porsche website yesterday first thing in the morning and a brand new CT in exactly my spec was listed! Cancelled order. Picking it up on Saturday

Lucky man indeed. Is it 2 years now?

Well be 11 months when ours arrives in December..

Have you got it yet? Enjoying it?

[londonlaw]

mikeN54 said:

DMC2 said:

So I was looking at getting a Taycan CT, didn't fancy waiting two years for an order so was going to pick up a used example. Checked on the Porsche website yesterday first thing in the morning and a brand new CT in exactly my spec was listed! Cancelled order. Picking it up on Saturday

Lucky man indeed. Is it 2 years now?

Well be 11 months when ours arrives in December..

Have you got it yet? Enjoying it?

No 1st year allowance or BIK in case of above, so this dilutes reason for many for EV in first place.
I wonder whether this will impact on trade in values in future?

[ds666]

londonlaw said:

mikeN54 said:

DMC2 said:

So I was looking at getting a Taycan CT, didn't fancy waiting two years for an order so was going to pick up a used example. Checked on the Porsche website yesterday first thing in the morning and a brand new CT in exactly my spec was listed! Cancelled order. Picking it up on Saturday

Lucky man indeed. Is it 2 years now?

Well be 11 months when ours arrives in December..

Have you got it yet? Enjoying it?

No 1st year allowance or BIK in case of above, so this dilutes reason for many for EV in first place.
I wonder whether this will impact on trade in values in future?

First year allowance is smoke and mirrors - BIK is where it is at .

[Discombobulate]

londonlaw said:

No 1st year allowance or BIK in case of above, so this dilutes reason for many for EV in first place.
I wonder whether this will impact on trade in values in future?

Why?

[CloudStuff]

ds666 said:

londonlaw said:

mikeN54 said:

DMC2 said:

So I was looking at getting a Taycan CT, didn't fancy waiting two years for an order so was going to pick up a used example. Checked on the Porsche website yesterday first thing in the morning and a brand new CT in exactly my spec was listed! Cancelled order. Picking it up on Saturday

Lucky man indeed. Is it 2 years now?

Well be 11 months when ours arrives in December..

Have you got it yet? Enjoying it?

No 1st year allowance or BIK in case of above, so this dilutes reason for many for EV in first place.
I wonder whether this will impact on trade in values in future?

First year allowance is smoke and mirrors - BIK is where it is at .

Correct. The allowance sounds tempting, but you can get stung on exit if you don’t take advice.