So, the Dacia Sandero... the UK's cheapest new car @ £5995

[thinfourth2]

esvcg said:

What do you aspire to if you actually spend your wages on this Dacia? I do know some people that don't care about cars and may like this on price only, but this is pistonheads after all not www.cheapo-money-saving-bore-look-at-my-5k-car.com...

As someone who would send his wages on this car

I'd aspire towards a nice caterham R400 and a Unimog agri spec

[tangerine_sedge]

esvcg said:

maybe to you it does, but at least it's someone who want's to do better, and aspire to the A5 etc.

Then once he has an A5 then aspire to an R8...

What do you aspire to if you actually spend your wages on this Dacia? I do know some people that don't care about cars and may like this on price only, but this is pistonheads after all not www.cheapo-money-saving-bore-look-at-my-5k-car.com...

Perhaps because this would be my 3rd car, and I would treat it as almost disposable. The savings I would make on this would enable me to run my 1st and 2nd choice car

I do not plan to spend my money on 4 rings just to keep up with the neighbours, that's a suckers game...

[Rawwr]

I'd spend £6k on one. In fact, I think I might.

[SystemParanoia]

wkipedia has the dacia duster down as 1160-1294kg (4x2 - 4x4 )

and the sandero at 1025kg - 1204

[CDP]

esvcg said:

maybe to you it does, but at least it's someone who want's to do better, and aspire to the A5 etc.

Then once he has an A5 then aspire to an R8...

What do you aspire to if you actually spend your wages on this Dacia? I do know some people that don't care about cars and may like this on price only, but this is pistonheads after all not www.cheapo-money-saving-bore-look-at-my-5k-car.com...

I aspire to a single seater or something like a Radical and a 7.5 tonner to carry it in. Compared to them an R8 is an also ran but a little Dacia with low running costs and no worries might just fit in quite nicely.

[mackie1]

We bought a Getz when they were £6k new (2004) and it's not put a foot wrong and is still solid and rattle free. It even came with a CD player and electric front windows. Hopefully this'll offer similar no-fuss cheap motoring.

[irob]

Just because I dont aspire to own a flash everyday car does not make me a fool.

I would/will gladly drive a 'Lesser' car everyday if that means I have I can bank extra money, be debt free, own a 2nd weekend car or go on more holidays etc...

Ill have a white duster please and ill fit my own headunit when I get home, cheers!

[CDP]

Rawwr said:

I'd spend £6k on one. In fact, I think I might.

Having seen your profile picture I can see you share a similar sentiment to me.

[Vytalis]

I've just moved away from an xc90 to a Hyundai i10. £7695 for a new (not pre-reg) car with air con, alloys, remote central locking, half decent stereo, does 61.4mpg combined (official figure, I've only gone through a quarter tank so far so can't say what real world figure is).

The 1.2 85hp engine shifts the sub-ton weight ok and i can get the kids in the back easily. It managed a tip run with 24 miles on the clock and it is a piece of cake to find a space (the xc90 would barely fit into a supermarket space). With two adults and two kids it still fits a full trolley worth of shopping in the boot and I never worry about it getting wrecked / scratched / damaged etc.

Changing the car on insurance with four months to go got me a rebate of £67 and tax is £20 per year. I can buy four tyres fitted for the price of 1 xc90 tyre.

Shame that when I walk outside and see it, another part of my soul dies - it turns out that I'm not confident enough in my manliness to be happy with it as a sole car. Hence my hunt for something virile on an earlier thread.

[Hoygo]

Great,finally a real car all new and for that price,it wont rape new drivers insurance,also a good warranty so all positive about this.

[CDP]

thinfourth2 said:

I'd aspire towards a nice caterham R400 and a Unimog agri spec

[Great Pretender]

thinfourth2 said:

esvcg said:

thinfourth2 said:

esvcg said:

Surely people in this country can/want to do better than this, that's what I find sad.

Okay Compare this to a poverty spec Audi A1

Tell me why the Audi is better

As in my eyes I prefer the Dacia as its less then 50% the cost of a baby Audi

if for no other reason, it's aspirational.

Some people aspire to be bright orange and appear on the telly shagging a footballer

So its a st argument

Why is the Audi A1 a better car

A car being a device to get you from A to B not demonstrate you are better then the neighbours

Yes, yes, but what about the imagine?

[J4CKO]

We spent six grand on a year and bit old C1, ok it had air con, alloys and met paint and it seemed a decent price comapred to most on sale, but this represents epic value.

It looks fairly good, it doesnt shout "budget", it uses conventional underpinnings, has a decent safety spec and a useful amount of power, it isnt total turd like a CityRover was, it appears it is a basic but credible supermini, I am sure a Fiesta will handle better and a Up! may be more economical but it has a lot going for it,

This seems to be creeping into Skodas heartland or utility, value and no frills now they seem to be creeping upmarket a little and even gaining acceptance with people who wouldnt have been seen dead in one a few years ago, there is soemthing very appealing about a bog basic car with no prententions. The A1 is a good case in point, 14 grand to get the most basic one (86 BHP), two and a bit times more than this, would be interested to see an unbiased comparison.

[Presuming Ed]

esvcg said:

maybe to you it does, but at least it's someone who want's to do better, and aspire to the A5 etc.

Then once he has an A5 then aspire to an R8...

What do you aspire to if you actually spend your wages on this Dacia? I do know some people that don't care about cars and may like this on price only, but this is pistonheads after all not www.cheapo-money-saving-bore-look-at-my-5k-car.com...

You seriously don't know what pistonheads is about if you think an Audi A5 is a more pistonheady car then a Dacia. I've been thinking that a Duster would make a great everyday bus and would pair nicely with the 911.

[Chrisw666]

esvcg said:

Nothing wrong with it, but IMO having such a cheap car launched with the emphasis on cheap, is just a crappy sign of the times we're in.

It's the motoring pound shop mentality.

Surely people in this country can/want to do better than this, that's what I find sad.

Why can't people see that outside their window we are all different, I don't need to be defined by my cars and anyone who judges my character or aspirational level by the wheels I use to get myself from A to B are frankly not the kind of people whose opinions should and to me ever will matter.

I'd rather have enough spare income after I've paid the mortgage on my comfortable home to know I can do what I fancy during any given month and that I can have a couple of nice holidays where we don't have to worry about the credit card bill at the end of it every year.

I can run fun cars on buttons if I want to, but as a car that does the job of being able to ferry SWMBO to work everyday, with the backing of a warranty, modern toys, modern safety bits and fuel economy comparable with modern cars then why would we NEED to buy anything other than a £7995 top of the range petrol Sandero? With an extended warranty to 7 years excluding servicing that comes to £9240 or £110 a month over its lifespan or more than the cost of leasing a VW UP and renewing it every three years.

If you'd rather spend more than you NEED to on a comparable white good that will impress vacuous tossers who know the price of everything and the value of nothing go ahead, meanwhile we'll let Renault clean up by selling a vehicle that is in tune with the times.

[SystemParanoia]

Presuming Ed said:

You seriously don't know what pistonheads is about if you think an Audi A5 is a more pistonheady car then a Dacia. I've been thinking that a Duster would make a great everyday bus and would pair nicely with the 911.

look at that flat bottom.. nothing to get damamged off road



decent looking inside



Jump seats availible



doors open



big boot



millions of pics availible here

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/official-new-car-rev...

will try and find similar for the sandero..

[Great Pretender]

Presuming Ed said:

I've been thinking that a Duster would make a great everyday bus and would pair nicely with the 911.

Duster for the commute and a GT3 for the weekends

[GoodDoc]

va1o said:

CDP said:

In what sense? All an A1 says to me is failed estate agent who's daft enough to spend extra on a four ringed badge instead of a VW or Skoda which share exactly the same engineering for a far better price.

Not true

There is no competing Skoda as the Fabia is on the old platform dating back to the late 90s, so therefore isn't the same as the A1

Against the Polo there is very little in it for price, A1 is £13,640 for the 1.2 TFSI SE. Closest competing Polo would be the 1.4 85PS Match 3dr at £13,005. Both have similar equipment with A/C and Alloys etc. For your extra £600 the Audi gives you the newer engine with improved performance, mpg and CO2 along with the better build quality. Additionally it has the MMI system and pop-up colour display which the Polo lacks.

So do your research before posting crap

You're right, the current Fabia uses the older Polo platform, however the point still stands. The VW Polo and Audi A1 are still twice the price of the Dacia, or how about two Sanderos for the price of an A1. Perhaps even, buy one, get one free.

I'd be happy to spend the £6,000 on the Dacia than £13,000 on the VW or Audi, but then I was happy to buy the Octavia and not the Golf or A3. As much as I love cars my day to day motoring requires a tool-like car, not a soul-filled car.

[to3m]

esvcg said:

maybe to you it does, but at least it's someone who want's to do better, and aspire to the A5 etc.

Then once he has an A5 then aspire to an R8...

What do you aspire to if you actually spend your wages on this Dacia? I do know some people that don't care about cars and may like this on price only, but this is pistonheads after all not www.cheapo-money-saving-bore-look-at-my-5k-car.com...

Things you could not just aspire to, but actually do, using the £7,000-odd difference between the price of a dacia and an audi A1:

- pay your credit card debt off
- pay more of your mortgage off
- start some kind of investment portfolio
- have some decent holidays
- buy an extremely fancy laptop
- quit your job and bum around for a while
- give the money to your children

(etc., etc. - I'm probably not being that imaginative, but the above all seem like worthy things that I sometimes hear people complaining about not having the money to do)

If you aspire to better things, it might feel like buying a nicer car is a good way to signal this, but it seems more reliably a route to penury. Buy a cheaper car (or a second-hand one - if you don't mind what the neighbours might say, you can get something much better than an Audi A1, but for less money up front, and probably with a lower TCO), and spend the money you save on actually having these better things. Nothing worse than denying yourself for the sake of having a nice car...

Edited by to3m on Wednesday 17th October 13:27

[kambites]

You missed out the important thing that you could do with that 7k which is "buy a used Caterham for the weekend".