Discussion
James6112 said:
jaydeeuk1 said:
Anyone been contacted by a dealer yet about ordering after having paid the £99 deposit? Was wondering if I should give mine a call next week, would like to get one delivered before July.
I called my dealer yesterday, as hadn’t heard anything (since he called me when I first paid the deposit)A showroom car had just arrived & I could go take a look. But, as demonstrators are arriving this week, he will call me to take one out when they arrive.
So looks like things are happening this week, as others say.
Not wanting to stoke the fire, but genuinely was looking at a Sandero Stepway a few months ago.
What I couldn't really wrap around my head at the time is what people thought was actually *missing* from Dacias in terms of actual features or functionality. So when people come in with these nuts comments as though Dacias are a totally separate breed of vehicle, it's hard to know exactly what they are finding issue with.
For me the base base models don't really appeal, although I can see why they appear to others. Lets just take a fully loaded one though which is still really cheap - what exactly should make someone buy a Puma instead of a Sandero Stepway out of interest?
The only things I could think of were:
* Slightly inferior NVH according to a few reviews
* Less detailed engine range with some limitations on engine power, refinement & economy when compared to the full Renault equivalent model or the competition
* Small interior limitations like the quality of some plastics, features like a moveable rear row etc
* Missing optional extras you could pay more for on other cars like heated seats etc
* Badge (to some folks of course)
Interested if anyone having a pop at these cars can do a halfway decent job at describing where they see the big pitfalls compared to the actual competition i.e. don't dream up that Jogger & Range Rover owners are cross-shopping for example.
What I couldn't really wrap around my head at the time is what people thought was actually *missing* from Dacias in terms of actual features or functionality. So when people come in with these nuts comments as though Dacias are a totally separate breed of vehicle, it's hard to know exactly what they are finding issue with.
For me the base base models don't really appeal, although I can see why they appear to others. Lets just take a fully loaded one though which is still really cheap - what exactly should make someone buy a Puma instead of a Sandero Stepway out of interest?
The only things I could think of were:
* Slightly inferior NVH according to a few reviews
* Less detailed engine range with some limitations on engine power, refinement & economy when compared to the full Renault equivalent model or the competition
* Small interior limitations like the quality of some plastics, features like a moveable rear row etc
* Missing optional extras you could pay more for on other cars like heated seats etc
* Badge (to some folks of course)
Interested if anyone having a pop at these cars can do a halfway decent job at describing where they see the big pitfalls compared to the actual competition i.e. don't dream up that Jogger & Range Rover owners are cross-shopping for example.
Vidarr said:
MightyBadger said:
Not a fan of the joggers looks at all.
I think it looks great!Chances are it'll be spending much of its life looking a bit grubby and tatty anyway, and nobody will give a st about it's appearance because a Dacia badge isn't gonna appeal to any Sad Act who pops a semi just thinking about an entire weekend of detailing their car with multiple packs of Technischer Überwachungsverein approved cotton buds and purified glacial spring water so they won't even contemplate buying one.
Jaguar steve said:
If you're got your sensible trousers on and buying a sensible car to do sensible stuff with then I'd guess for most whatever it looks like or what colours its available in doesn't really matter that much.
Chances are it'll be spending much of its life looking a bit grubby and tatty anyway, and nobody will give a st about it's appearance because a Dacia badge isn't gonna appeal to any Sad Act who pops a semi just thinking about an entire weekend of detailing their car with multiple packs of Technischer Überwachungsverein approved cotton buds and purified glacial spring water so they won't even contemplate buying one.
I have always had a thing for simple and quirky cars. Stuff like the Skoda Yeti and Roomster Scout, Citroen Cactus, Kia Soul, and Fiat Multipla. Modern cars are too complicated (full of unnecessary gadgets) and I'm not a fan of the overly aggressive generic look many have followed. I have nothing against modern tech in cars, far from it, but some of it seems to be used purely for one-upmanship or tech for techs sake and doesn't actually make it any better. If anything it makes things worse with potential big bills and weightChances are it'll be spending much of its life looking a bit grubby and tatty anyway, and nobody will give a st about it's appearance because a Dacia badge isn't gonna appeal to any Sad Act who pops a semi just thinking about an entire weekend of detailing their car with multiple packs of Technischer Überwachungsverein approved cotton buds and purified glacial spring water so they won't even contemplate buying one.
Vidarr said:
I have always had a thing for simple and quirky cars. Stuff like the Skoda Yeti and Roomster Scout, Citroen Cactus, Kia Soul, and Fiat Multipla. Modern cars are too complicated (full of unnecessary gadgets) and I'm not a fan of the overly aggressive generic look many have followed. I have nothing against modern tech in cars, far from it, but some of it seems to be used purely for one-upmanship or tech for techs sake and doesn't actually make it any better. If anything it makes things worse with potential big bills and weight
Cars like that are quite popular in many countries, even wealthy ones in Western Europe. Possibly a little less so in the UK, but I do see quite a few of them here.Having a 4 year old car and a 15 year old car in the household, the older one (albeit with a cheap hands-free phone kit and a DAB added) isn't a hardship to live with -my wife uses her phone mounted on the dash for Sat Nav duties.
We have ordered a Sandero Stepway in Spain to stop spending money on car rental. Cheaper than a used Focus, 5 year warranty and 5 years servicing for €12,000. Got climate, nav, electric windows front and rear. Really can't complain on spec at all. 90 rampaging Romanian horses. 
Obviously getting a (free colour) red one because they're fastest.
Walking round the dealership, they seem to have lost the whiff of 'cheapy cheapy cheapy' that they used to have and actually look and feel like 'proper' cars these days.
Obviously getting a (free colour) red one because they're fastest.
Walking round the dealership, they seem to have lost the whiff of 'cheapy cheapy cheapy' that they used to have and actually look and feel like 'proper' cars these days.
Baldchap said:
We have ordered a Sandero Stepway in Spain to stop spending money on car rental. Cheaper than a used Focus, 5 year warranty and 5 years servicing for €12,000. Got climate, nav, electric windows front and rear. Really can't complain on spec at all. 90 rampaging Romanian horses.
Obviously getting a (free colour) red one because they're fastest.
Walking round the dealership, they seem to have lost the whiff of 'cheapy cheapy cheapy' that they used to have and actually look and feel like 'proper' cars these days.
We had a low spec Duster as a rental in Ibiza a few years ago, it was the best car for the job we’ve ever had - roomy, climate, ground clearance.Obviously getting a (free colour) red one because they're fastest.
Walking round the dealership, they seem to have lost the whiff of 'cheapy cheapy cheapy' that they used to have and actually look and feel like 'proper' cars these days.
MC Bodge said:
Vidarr said:
I have always had a thing for simple and quirky cars. Stuff like the Skoda Yeti and Roomster Scout, Citroen Cactus, Kia Soul, and Fiat Multipla. Modern cars are too complicated (full of unnecessary gadgets) and I'm not a fan of the overly aggressive generic look many have followed. I have nothing against modern tech in cars, far from it, but some of it seems to be used purely for one-upmanship or tech for techs sake and doesn't actually make it any better. If anything it makes things worse with potential big bills and weight
Cars like that are quite popular in many countries, even wealthy ones in Western Europe. Possibly a little less so in the UK, but I do see quite a few of them here.Having a 4 year old car and a 15 year old car in the household, the older one (albeit with a cheap hands-free phone kit and a DAB added) isn't a hardship to live with -my wife uses her phone mounted on the dash for Sat Nav duties.
MC Bodge said:
Vidarr said:
the Skoda Yeti was incredibly popular, but they replaced it with a boring VW group clone, the new Jogger fills the Yeti gap nicely
Yes, Yeti was seen everywhere and owners really liked them.The Rotrex Kid said:
James6112 said:
jaydeeuk1 said:
Anyone been contacted by a dealer yet about ordering after having paid the £99 deposit? Was wondering if I should give mine a call next week, would like to get one delivered before July.
I called my dealer yesterday, as hadn’t heard anything (since he called me when I first paid the deposit)A showroom car had just arrived & I could go take a look. But, as demonstrators are arriving this week, he will call me to take one out when they arrive.
So looks like things are happening this week, as others say.
Vidarr said:
MC Bodge said:
Vidarr said:
I have always had a thing for simple and quirky cars. Stuff like the Skoda Yeti and Roomster Scout, Citroen Cactus, Kia Soul, and Fiat Multipla. Modern cars are too complicated (full of unnecessary gadgets) and I'm not a fan of the overly aggressive generic look many have followed. I have nothing against modern tech in cars, far from it, but some of it seems to be used purely for one-upmanship or tech for techs sake and doesn't actually make it any better. If anything it makes things worse with potential big bills and weight
Cars like that are quite popular in many countries, even wealthy ones in Western Europe. Possibly a little less so in the UK, but I do see quite a few of them here.Having a 4 year old car and a 15 year old car in the household, the older one (albeit with a cheap hands-free phone kit and a DAB added) isn't a hardship to live with -my wife uses her phone mounted on the dash for Sat Nav duties.
Until recently if I changed jobs completely where I no longer have access to a company car I would purchase a Duster (funds allowing), I love the simplicity and honesty, it would however probably have to be the Comfort as I prefer the larger 1.3T engine over the 1.0T and the Android auto functionality could be useful, however if the Essential became available with the 1.3T then I could probably live without the Android auto capability, or maybe purchase a retro fit unit.
Since Jogger has turned up, I'm kind of torn between both Jogger and Duster, I don't need 7 seats but the low boot entry and large boot could be useful, plus it is on the better and far newer platform.
Baldchap said:
I remember seeing a Yeti new in the showroom and being astonished at how expensive the 1.2 turbo actually was.
I can't remember the numbers, but they weren't a cheap car by quite a margin, given their supermini size.
Once they realised old people were into them noone else stood a chance. Fill it with gadgets they won't use and price it up, theyll PCP one and swap it in for a new one 2 years and 8k miles later. Honda jazz owned that market for a long time.I can't remember the numbers, but they weren't a cheap car by quite a margin, given their supermini size.
HTP99 said:
Vidarr said:
MC Bodge said:
Vidarr said:
I have always had a thing for simple and quirky cars. Stuff like the Skoda Yeti and Roomster Scout, Citroen Cactus, Kia Soul, and Fiat Multipla. Modern cars are too complicated (full of unnecessary gadgets) and I'm not a fan of the overly aggressive generic look many have followed. I have nothing against modern tech in cars, far from it, but some of it seems to be used purely for one-upmanship or tech for techs sake and doesn't actually make it any better. If anything it makes things worse with potential big bills and weight
Cars like that are quite popular in many countries, even wealthy ones in Western Europe. Possibly a little less so in the UK, but I do see quite a few of them here.Having a 4 year old car and a 15 year old car in the household, the older one (albeit with a cheap hands-free phone kit and a DAB added) isn't a hardship to live with -my wife uses her phone mounted on the dash for Sat Nav duties.
Until recently if I changed jobs completely where I no longer have access to a company car I would purchase a Duster (funds allowing), I love the simplicity and honesty, it would however probably have to be the Comfort as I prefer the larger 1.3T engine over the 1.0T and the Android auto functionality could be useful, however if the Essential became available with the 1.3T then I could probably live without the Android auto capability, or maybe purchase a retro fit unit.
Since Jogger has turned up, I'm kind of torn between both Jogger and Duster, I don't need 7 seats but the low boot entry and large boot could be useful, plus it is on the better and far newer platform.
Was on my list to have a look at when searching for a new estate, but there were none available and needed a car within a week or so, only thing that actually put me the Jogger was the 3rd row of seats, wouldn't really ever need them, so I would have to store them somewhere till we either did need them, or sold it, stupid as it sounds, a 5 seat option would have been ideal, for reference we sold a 7 seater due to lack of usable space taken up by the 3rd row of collapsible seats.
I think the snobbery comes from when Hyundai and Daewoo entered the UK market, offering cheap s
t, which was mostly st, drove like st, looked like st and was all around a bit st, but the times are different these days, the aforementioned were cheap new, but they weren't any better than a low spec Fiesta or Corsa, but had worse residuals, which then with Kia and Hyundai waking up and realising, sell a cheaper product, of decent spec, for a good price and their sales went through the roof, and I think people are trying to apply that to Dacia, that and "It's the new Dacia Sanderro" joke over and over, when really, they seem to be offering a quality product for a quality price, bear in mind a Yaris starts around £20k these days, for a Yaris.
I think the snobbery comes from when Hyundai and Daewoo entered the UK market, offering cheap s
t, which was mostly st, drove like st, looked like st and was all around a bit st, but the times are different these days, the aforementioned were cheap new, but they weren't any better than a low spec Fiesta or Corsa, but had worse residuals, which then with Kia and Hyundai waking up and realising, sell a cheaper product, of decent spec, for a good price and their sales went through the roof, and I think people are trying to apply that to Dacia, that and "It's the new Dacia Sanderro" joke over and over, when really, they seem to be offering a quality product for a quality price, bear in mind a Yaris starts around £20k these days, for a Yaris.stanglish said:
Not wanting to stoke the fire, but genuinely was looking at a Sandero Stepway a few months ago.
What I couldn't really wrap around my head at the time is what people thought was actually *missing* from Dacias in terms of actual features or functionality. So when people come in with these nuts comments as though Dacias are a totally separate breed of vehicle, it's hard to know exactly what they are finding issue with.
For me the base base models don't really appeal, although I can see why they appear to others. Lets just take a fully loaded one though which is still really cheap - what exactly should make someone buy a Puma instead of a Sandero Stepway out of interest?
The only things I could think of were:
* Slightly inferior NVH according to a few reviews
* Less detailed engine range with some limitations on engine power, refinement & economy when compared to the full Renault equivalent model or the competition
* Small interior limitations like the quality of some plastics, features like a moveable rear row etc
* Missing optional extras you could pay more for on other cars like heated seats etc
* Badge (to some folks of course)
Interested if anyone having a pop at these cars can do a halfway decent job at describing where they see the big pitfalls compared to the actual competition i.e. don't dream up that Jogger & Range Rover owners are cross-shopping for example.
I'll be selling my NX as its a bit too small for the 5 of us - on a camping trip I had to make 2 runs which was annoying (luckily only 20 mins away), plus there were times we had to take 2 cars as couldn't fit 7 in on a trip out. What I couldn't really wrap around my head at the time is what people thought was actually *missing* from Dacias in terms of actual features or functionality. So when people come in with these nuts comments as though Dacias are a totally separate breed of vehicle, it's hard to know exactly what they are finding issue with.
For me the base base models don't really appeal, although I can see why they appear to others. Lets just take a fully loaded one though which is still really cheap - what exactly should make someone buy a Puma instead of a Sandero Stepway out of interest?
The only things I could think of were:
* Slightly inferior NVH according to a few reviews
* Less detailed engine range with some limitations on engine power, refinement & economy when compared to the full Renault equivalent model or the competition
* Small interior limitations like the quality of some plastics, features like a moveable rear row etc
* Missing optional extras you could pay more for on other cars like heated seats etc
* Badge (to some folks of course)
Interested if anyone having a pop at these cars can do a halfway decent job at describing where they see the big pitfalls compared to the actual competition i.e. don't dream up that Jogger & Range Rover owners are cross-shopping for example.
I'm not a badge snob, I've owned a knackered fiat tipo and a daewoo lanos in the past, so I'll buy what suits us.
HTP99 said:
Renault and Dacia salesman here, I've always loved quirky and functional cars over something flash and full of gadgets, my immediate colleagues actually take the piss out of me at work because I like "ugly cars", usually in a funky colour too!
Until recently if I changed jobs completely where I no longer have access to a company car I would purchase a Duster (funds allowing), I love the simplicity and honesty, it would however probably have to be the Comfort as I prefer the larger 1.3T engine over the 1.0T and the Android auto functionality could be useful, however if the Essential became available with the 1.3T then I could probably live without the Android auto capability, or maybe purchase a retro fit unit.
Since Jogger has turned up, I'm kind of torn between both Jogger and Duster, I don't need 7 seats but the low boot entry and large boot could be useful, plus it is on the better and far newer platform.
You had a heads up on what the finance deals will be? I'll be after the extreme Se model (mainly for the picnic trays and heated seats) in whiteUntil recently if I changed jobs completely where I no longer have access to a company car I would purchase a Duster (funds allowing), I love the simplicity and honesty, it would however probably have to be the Comfort as I prefer the larger 1.3T engine over the 1.0T and the Android auto functionality could be useful, however if the Essential became available with the 1.3T then I could probably live without the Android auto capability, or maybe purchase a retro fit unit.
Since Jogger has turned up, I'm kind of torn between both Jogger and Duster, I don't need 7 seats but the low boot entry and large boot could be useful, plus it is on the better and far newer platform.
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