2023 rallying thread (WRC, ERC, national and historics)
Discussion
Ranger 6 said:
Talking about the Argyll - anyone going?
Nope - I'll be "watching" from home - nice mixed weather forecast again, it'll favour the brave. Any of the top 4 could win this (Black / Wright / Henderson / Roskell) and like most closed-road events, the margins will be tight. A good tyre choice on the long Otter Ferry stage, in the dark, could swing it.
The Rally Guide has been issued for this year's Mull Rally - the team have made a few changes, all described in the document. I won't be there myself, I think I have well and truly got it out of my system 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Gap8AMYr1-AYftrw...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Gap8AMYr1-AYftrw...
thepawbroon said:
The Rally Guide has been issued for this year's Mull Rally - the team have made a few changes, all described in the document. I won't be there myself, I think I have well and truly got it out of my system
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Gap8AMYr1-AYftrw...
Definitely looking a bit different. One or two marshals etc may have to change their travel plans to accommodate the earlier start.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Gap8AMYr1-AYftrw...
Drumroll said:
To be honest this is the first I have known about the early start and I like to think I am quite "up" on things related to the Mull Rally.
Fair enough...The approval process now, driven by the Motorsport on Pubic Roads Regulations (Scotland) 2019, requires a formal consultation with the locally affected community. The results of that have to be with Motorsport UK about 9 months before the event. The consultations usually involve the relevant Community Councils, and for Mull the timing is around November/December for a rally taking place the following October.
In Dec 2022, the proposed route for consultation was published on the Mull Rally website - it's still there.
https://mullrally.org/community-consultation/
For other rallies, have a look on the relevant council or community council websites approx 9 months ahead of the event,
EG Jim Clark:
https://www.scotborders.gov.uk/jimclarkrally
thepawbroon said:
The Rally Guide has been issued for this year's Mull Rally - the team have made a few changes, all described in the document. I won't be there myself, I think I have well and truly got it out of my system
I reckon you're glad to be out of it with all the rally organising experts on Facebook these days! Don't the Mull organisers realise it's rallying, where everything has to permanently stay the same and nothing new (and maybe better) can be tried?!! DelicaL400 said:
I reckon you're glad to be out of it with all the rally organising experts on Facebook these days! Don't the Mull organisers realise it's rallying, where everything has to permanently stay the same and nothing new (and maybe better) can be tried?!!
Very glad, but trying to be supportive of the current team who are a great bunch. I wonder if every other sport is polluted by tribes of the b
hing and moaning? So frustrating, we have a potentially awesome sport and it's frequently undermined by self-interest and uninformed negativity. thepawbroon said:
Very glad, but trying to be supportive of the current team who are a great bunch.
I wonder if every other sport is polluted by tribes of the bhing and moaning? So frustrating, we have a potentially awesome sport and it's frequently undermined by self-interest and uninformed negativity.
I think there is certain amount of truth in that. If you look at Racing in the UK there is only a few clubs that run meetings. Different championships "align" themselves to those clubs. Or they have to "buy" their own race. Rallying is still based on the individual club organising an event and getting a championship to complete in it. But by comparison organising a race meeting is a dam site easier than organising a rally. I wonder if every other sport is polluted by tribes of the b
hing and moaning? So frustrating, we have a potentially awesome sport and it's frequently undermined by self-interest and uninformed negativity. Ypres looks fantastic as usual and hopefully back to its best not being a round of the WRC, Kenya I could not really care about, I have been watching a few old Safari's on YT recently man they were tough, almost Dakar like, the money spent to get cars ready was silly but they were truly great events, I appreciate what WRC are doing to try and replicate but it cannot really be done int he same way unless you do what historic events now try and do and have a real Safari.
No Ypres for me this year, pity as its now back in its date.
However live feeds have appeared the last few days on my Faceache feed via Belgian Rally Championship
https://fb.watch/llM2-tPvpo/
However live feeds have appeared the last few days on my Faceache feed via Belgian Rally Championship
https://fb.watch/llM2-tPvpo/
I see Neuville was a naughty boy in Kenya and had someone illegally doing extra recce for him, got caught and disqualified. Must be getting a bit too desperate for results.
On a side note, it may just be coincidence but Lappi's multiple propshaft failures reminded me of my casual prediction earlier in the season that if Lappi was outperforming Neuville he would start having mysterious mechanical issues... maybe I'm just cynical.
On a side note, it may just be coincidence but Lappi's multiple propshaft failures reminded me of my casual prediction earlier in the season that if Lappi was outperforming Neuville he would start having mysterious mechanical issues... maybe I'm just cynical.
GravelBen said:
I see Neuville was a naughty boy in Kenya and had someone illegally doing extra recce for him, got caught and disqualified. Must be getting a bit too desperate for results.
On a side note, it may just be coincidence but Lappi's multiple propshaft failures reminded me of my casual prediction earlier in the season that if Lappi was outperforming Neuville he would start having mysterious mechanical issues... maybe I'm just cynical.
I'd say that is overly cynical, but the question gets raised again - at what point do they have to accept they have two drivers capable of results and let them fight? If Tanak couldn't break that stranglehold, I'm not sure what chance Lappi has.On a side note, it may just be coincidence but Lappi's multiple propshaft failures reminded me of my casual prediction earlier in the season that if Lappi was outperforming Neuville he would start having mysterious mechanical issues... maybe I'm just cynical.
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
why is the so much conjecture that Hyundai only want Neuville to do the winnings?
Is he paying for his drive or something?
I presume it's because he's been in the WRC team since the start, has won the most rallies for them and with the exception of Tanak has been the only driver on their rosta realistically capable of winning the championship. Is he paying for his drive or something?
Anyonme see the colossal roll Lefevbre had at pres, jeepers that car was strong, oddly enough, ended up right on the apex of the next bend so his fellow competitors had to drive past him every time!!
Some great names still banging in there aswell, Loix back Snijers and Lietaar getting top 25s in cars that should not be there. An Ascona top 30 against a field of R5's fair play lad.
Some great names still banging in there aswell, Loix back Snijers and Lietaar getting top 25s in cars that should not be there. An Ascona top 30 against a field of R5's fair play lad.
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
why is the so much conjecture that Hyundai only want Neuville to do the winnings?
The team has been more or less built around him from the start and he has been very cosy with team management (seemingly to the detriment of anyone he doesn't get on with), the car is developed to his preference and they are very proactive with team orders in his favour etc... I'd call it observation more than conjecture.LukeBrown66 said:
Anyonme see the colossal roll Lefevbre had at pres, jeepers that car was strong, oddly enough, ended up right on the apex of the next bend so his fellow competitors had to drive past him every time!!
Some great names still banging in there aswell, Loix back Snijers and Lietaar getting top 25s in cars that should not be there. An Ascona top 30 against a field of R5's fair play lad.
I've seen it now, that was a big one!Some great names still banging in there aswell, Loix back Snijers and Lietaar getting top 25s in cars that should not be there. An Ascona top 30 against a field of R5's fair play lad.
LukeBrown66 said:
Anyonme see the colossal roll Lefevbre had at Ieper, jeepers that car was strong, oddly enough, ended up right on the apex of the next bend so his fellow competitors had to drive past him every time!!
Some great names still banging in there as well, Loix back Snijers and Lietaar getting top 25s in cars that should not be there. An Ascona top 30 against a field of R5's fair play lad.
We were there spectating and it was a few corners after us and he was pushing on a bit! Fourmaux was clearly different gravy though!Some great names still banging in there as well, Loix back Snijers and Lietaar getting top 25s in cars that should not be there. An Ascona top 30 against a field of R5's fair play lad.
This year there was no Historic rally to speak of and the event was much poorer for it - I have no idea why they did it but I do wonder if people being skint had something to do with it? The event's starting to look a lot like it did in the naughties when it was all front wheel drive's and that's when we stopped going...other than Lietaer a few M3's, 2 mark i's and a mark ii, it was very boring. Rather than coming home on Monday, we came home after a few stages on Saturday, it was just too boring...roll on the RAC in November!
What was Paddy Snijers driving? Didn't spot him!
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