Motorcycle Engines with good Low end Torque ?
Discussion
Was wondering what modern motorcycle engines with low end torque would fit in the 600-800cc range ? at a reasonable cost and still available, dependable and cheap to mantain.
Other than the classic Guzzi small block V-Twin and Bmw Boxer I had thought of these:
Yamaha XTZ 660cc
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_XT
Yamaha Mt3
Suzuki SV 650cc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SV650
Honda Hawk Gt:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NT650
Ducati Monster 620cc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_Monster
Any other motorcycle engines that would fit ? Kawasaki ? Triumph 675 ?
Looking forward to your comments and ideas
Cheers
Italo
Other than the classic Guzzi small block V-Twin and Bmw Boxer I had thought of these:
Yamaha XTZ 660cc
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_XT
Yamaha Mt3
Suzuki SV 650cc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SV650
Honda Hawk Gt:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NT650
Ducati Monster 620cc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ducati_Monster
Any other motorcycle engines that would fit ? Kawasaki ? Triumph 675 ?
Looking forward to your comments and ideas
Cheers
Italo
Engine chice will depend on the wieght of the car you want to power, you will also need to think about drive options (i.e chain drive or shaft drive)
I would think the small engines you have mentioned will be underpowered on anything except an extremly light car/trike
I run a Honda SP2 V-twin engine in may car and replacement engines can be had for 600-1000 on ebay
There are plenty of cheap 'big' engines out there (early fire blades, ZX9's, Thunderace, speed tripples, etc)
Is there a specific reason you wan to use a smaller engine?
I would think the small engines you have mentioned will be underpowered on anything except an extremly light car/trike
I run a Honda SP2 V-twin engine in may car and replacement engines can be had for 600-1000 on ebay
There are plenty of cheap 'big' engines out there (early fire blades, ZX9's, Thunderace, speed tripples, etc)
Is there a specific reason you wan to use a smaller engine?
Mike 1982 said:
Engine chice will depend on the wieght of the car you want to power, you will also need to think about drive options (i.e chain drive or shaft drive)
I would think the small engines you have mentioned will be underpowered on anything except an extremly light car/trike
I run a Honda SP2 V-twin engine in may car and replacement engines can be had for 600-1000 on ebay
It will be a trike and with reference to your engine, is this related to yours ?I would think the small engines you have mentioned will be underpowered on anything except an extremly light car/trike
I run a Honda SP2 V-twin engine in may car and replacement engines can be had for 600-1000 on ebay
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_VTR1000F
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Deauville
With reference to shaft drive i was thinking to the Honda Deaville or Yamaha XVs 650cc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DragStar_650
The Yamaha engine looks great...
With reference to shaft drive i was thinking to the Honda Deaville or Yamaha XVs 650cc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DragStar_650
The Yamaha engine looks great...
Its related - but is a less tuned version. This is what i run...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_RC51
(the later SP2 version)
Have a look at prices, I dont think the Sv650 etc will be that much cheaper than the bigger engines
You dont see many cars driven by smaller engines - the weight of even the lightest cars is going to be near double of a bike - I think the smaller engiens would really suffer
Some of the older bikes (ZX9, early blades) can be picked up for under a grand for a complete bike - ideal if you want to do a reverse trike and use the swing arm like the MEV TR1ke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_RC51
(the later SP2 version)
Have a look at prices, I dont think the Sv650 etc will be that much cheaper than the bigger engines
You dont see many cars driven by smaller engines - the weight of even the lightest cars is going to be near double of a bike - I think the smaller engiens would really suffer
Some of the older bikes (ZX9, early blades) can be picked up for under a grand for a complete bike - ideal if you want to do a reverse trike and use the swing arm like the MEV TR1ke
Furiosi unless you need to creep under some cc laws then I don't think you will get any advantage whatsoever from a 6 or 800cc motor. Most 1000cc bike engines are light, powerful , compact ( I can lift my R1 engine, gearbox and cradle out of my car on my own , just, ..... ) and pretty much maintainance free apart from fluids and clutches ( for me anyway ) This lack of torque spoken of is usually remedied quite easily I have found by knocking it down 1 gear, flooring it and holding on tight! Interesting to see what you are up to!!!
Honda NC700X or NC750 are the most car like engines, a bit new and too expensive though, perhaps.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/bikereviews/sear...
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/bikereviews/sear...
Mike 1982 said:
Its related - but is a less tuned version. This is what i run...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_RC51
(the later SP2 version)
Have a look at prices, I dont think the Sv650 etc will be that much cheaper than the bigger engines
You dont see many cars driven by smaller engines - the weight of even the lightest cars is going to be near double of a bike - I think the smaller engiens would really suffer
Some of the older bikes (ZX9, early blades) can be picked up for under a grand for a complete bike - ideal if you want to do a reverse trike and use the swing arm like the MEV TR1ke
I like your Honda RC51 (VTR 1000)...prices for bikes are slightly cheaper in Italy for bikes in the 600-800cc range....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_RC51
(the later SP2 version)
Have a look at prices, I dont think the Sv650 etc will be that much cheaper than the bigger engines
You dont see many cars driven by smaller engines - the weight of even the lightest cars is going to be near double of a bike - I think the smaller engiens would really suffer
Some of the older bikes (ZX9, early blades) can be picked up for under a grand for a complete bike - ideal if you want to do a reverse trike and use the swing arm like the MEV TR1ke
As ypou mentioned this VTR 1000 Firestorm would have a tempting price:
http://www.moto.it/moto-usate/honda/vtr-1000-f/vtr...
or this Kawasaki ZX9 R
http://www.moto.it/moto-usate/kawasaki/ninja-900-z...
Very interesting engines and thanks for the info....
Furyblade_Lee said:
Furiosi unless you need to creep under some cc laws then I don't think you will get any advantage whatsoever from a 6 or 800cc motor. Most 1000cc bike engines are light, powerful , compact ( I can lift my R1 engine, gearbox and cradle out of my car on my own , just, ..... ) and pretty much maintainance free apart from fluids and clutches ( for me anyway ) This lack of torque spoken of is usually remedied quite easily I have found by knocking it down 1 gear, flooring it and holding on tight! Interesting to see what you are up to!!!
Smaller engines do have some insurance and tax advantages and lower maintenance costs in Italy but have no idea of the costs in the UK.With reference to my project it might, maybe, who knows come to fruition in 2015...but after some thorough research on my part...and the help of all my PH friends...Thanks ....
Artstu said:
Honda NC700X or NC750 are the most car like engines, a bit new and too expensive though, perhaps.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/bikereviews/sear...
I like that engine, but as you mentioned it's too expensive at the moment but I'm sure it's a very good engine.http://www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn/bikereviews/sear...
http://www.moto.it/moto-usate/suzuki/vl-800-intrud...
Expensive but Shaft drive and voloptuos engine...
Expensive but Shaft drive and voloptuos engine...
[quote=rehab71
For a cracking sound, good gearing for your application, and plenty of torque the Triumph triples take some beating.
[/quote]
The sound is amazing !!!! I would say fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdqGtcBTZ9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn1Ej6Skr7w
For a cracking sound, good gearing for your application, and plenty of torque the Triumph triples take some beating.
[/quote]
The sound is amazing !!!! I would say fantastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdqGtcBTZ9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn1Ej6Skr7w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfa4HBaatZo
The Yamaha Mt 09 does look like having more low end torque than the speed triple, but the two engines do have a great sound, but expensive....
The Yamaha Mt 09 does look like having more low end torque than the speed triple, but the two engines do have a great sound, but expensive....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwQ7WhZUSkI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkL4XoB-QvQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOLtIKfQc8
This Scorpion P6 powered by a Kawasaki Zx6- R does look like a lot of fun....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkL4XoB-QvQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOLtIKfQc8
This Scorpion P6 powered by a Kawasaki Zx6- R does look like a lot of fun....
Gassing Station | Kit Cars | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff