KITCAR DESIGN sketches/concepts year 2008-10
Discussion
Snapper7 said:
Midas said:
It is nice and also very old fashioned
Thats why it works & look so good.The rear is modified to give more interior space, visibility and, possibly, a hatchback, the front is modified to take fixed lights which any exports would require.
The doors and windscreen are Elan+2, most of the trim, dash, and chassis could be carried over from the original making this a cheap update of the design.
Appreciation of design could be age related, I'm 42 and as I said whilst I can appreciate the looks of that car, it is from an era before my interest in cars took off.
If that theory is true that should make you (snapper) , late forties or older.
If that theory is true that should make you (snapper) , late forties or older.
Edited by Midas on Saturday 5th January 12:47
Two more concepts.
This is based on an MGA, it changes the front to a more sixties headlight design which I think makes a very pretty design. Take one restoration project MGA, add six inches in width, cut and more steeply rake the screen, change the front from the wheel arches forwards. The extra width would avoid the "narrow" classic look and give the car a lower and more modern stance. It also allows for a big V8...
And this is an interpretation of a mid engined Seven using a FWD hatchback engine. The styling is slightly taller than other sevens and there is also a bulge behind the seats. This avoids the wedge look which is usually used to hide the height of a FWD engine while keeping a Seven look as far as possible. Note how small the fibreglass panels are, the bonnet is narrow and short, the engine cover is not much bigger, the wheel covers are small and everything else is ali panels. Ideal for a small home build.
Both of these follow the design concept of carrying over as much from older designs as possible. Much of the buck to take molds from is ready made in the first case, In the second the simplicty of the Seven is carried over.
One day I'll get that workshop...
This is based on an MGA, it changes the front to a more sixties headlight design which I think makes a very pretty design. Take one restoration project MGA, add six inches in width, cut and more steeply rake the screen, change the front from the wheel arches forwards. The extra width would avoid the "narrow" classic look and give the car a lower and more modern stance. It also allows for a big V8...
And this is an interpretation of a mid engined Seven using a FWD hatchback engine. The styling is slightly taller than other sevens and there is also a bulge behind the seats. This avoids the wedge look which is usually used to hide the height of a FWD engine while keeping a Seven look as far as possible. Note how small the fibreglass panels are, the bonnet is narrow and short, the engine cover is not much bigger, the wheel covers are small and everything else is ali panels. Ideal for a small home build.
Both of these follow the design concept of carrying over as much from older designs as possible. Much of the buck to take molds from is ready made in the first case, In the second the simplicty of the Seven is carried over.
One day I'll get that workshop...
groomi said:
I think you'd be struggling for foot space in the front of the second one. In reality it would need to be a fair bit longer infront of the windscreen, or the body would need to be wider and therefore use whelarcehes, rather than open wheels - thus losing the sevenesque profile.
Actually the footwells are the same length as on the Locost, as measured from the seat back, and are actually wider at the ends and the wheels can turn enough to allow a normal car turning circle. The designs are not made up stylists dreams, they are based on measurements of existing cars and components, in this case the Locost book chassis and the driveline from my Focus, though it is a tight squeeze and I only measured the block, so it may need some small changes or a smaller engine as in the Fiesta unit.If they can sell a used Midas Bronze for 24.990Euros!!!! (about 17.500 Pounds)
http://www.motohand.com/?id=32658
Maybe someone needs to take the old mould out from the barn..........
http://www.motohand.com/?id=32658
Maybe someone needs to take the old mould out from the barn..........
Edited by fuoriserie on Saturday 5th January 18:03
fuoriserie said:
If they can sell a used Midas Bronze for 24.990Euros!!!! (about 17.500 Pounds)
http://www.motohand.com/?id=32658
Maybe someone needs to take the old mould out from the barn..........
I'm rich and I didn't even know it!http://www.motohand.com/?id=32658
Maybe someone needs to take the old mould out from the barn..........
Edited by fuoriserie on Saturday 5th January 18:03
I've got three Midas cars
cymtriks said:
groomi said:
I think you'd be struggling for foot space in the front of the second one. In reality it would need to be a fair bit longer infront of the windscreen, or the body would need to be wider and therefore use whelarcehes, rather than open wheels - thus losing the sevenesque profile.
Actually the footwells are the same length as on the Locost, as measured from the seat back, and are actually wider at the ends and the wheels can turn enough to allow a normal car turning circle. The designs are not made up stylists dreams, they are based on measurements of existing cars and components, in this case the Locost book chassis and the driveline from my Focus, though it is a tight squeeze and I only measured the block, so it may need some small changes or a smaller engine as in the Fiesta unit.For ease of build re. the transposition of the hatchback engine, wouldn't it be easier to mount the radiator at the side behind the driver, maybe with an F1-style airbox to scoop air in? The rear section would need a mild restyle, but it would also mean you could add some improved F1-style downforce to the nose, which would help counteract the rear weight bias at higher speeds.
cymtriks said:
Two more concepts.
This is based on an MGA, it changes the front to a more sixties headlight design which I think makes a very pretty design. Take one restoration project MGA, add six inches in width, cut and more steeply rake the screen, change the front from the wheel arches forwards. The extra width would avoid the "narrow" classic look and give the car a lower and more modern stance. It also allows for a big V8...
Both of these follow the design concept of carrying over as much from older designs as possible. Much of the buck to take molds from is ready made in the first case, In the second the simplicty of the Seven is carried over.
One day I'll get that workshop...
I like this idea a lot , a retro design replica with modern mechanicals, I think it does have potential.This is based on an MGA, it changes the front to a more sixties headlight design which I think makes a very pretty design. Take one restoration project MGA, add six inches in width, cut and more steeply rake the screen, change the front from the wheel arches forwards. The extra width would avoid the "narrow" classic look and give the car a lower and more modern stance. It also allows for a big V8...
Both of these follow the design concept of carrying over as much from older designs as possible. Much of the buck to take molds from is ready made in the first case, In the second the simplicty of the Seven is carried over.
One day I'll get that workshop...
Italo
Edited by fuoriserie on Monday 7th January 15:40
Midas said:
fuoriserie said:
If they can sell a used Midas Bronze for 24.990Euros!!!! (about 17.500 Pounds)
http://www.motohand.com/?id=32658
Maybe someone needs to take the old mould out from the barn..........
I'm rich and I didn't even know it!http://www.motohand.com/?id=32658
Maybe someone needs to take the old mould out from the barn..........
Edited by fuoriserie on Saturday 5th January 18:03
I've got three Midas cars
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