Vodafone & McLaren

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RushDriver

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637 posts

260 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=34707

I didn't see that one coming!



>> Edited by RushDriver on Wednesday 14th December 11:42

>> Edited by RushDriver on Wednesday 14th December 11:44

FourWheelDrift

88,768 posts

286 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Although they do already sponsor Bernd Schneiders Mercedes in the DTM so there are already business links. Wonder who will be on the Ferrari's in 2007, isn't that a tobacco cut off point for advertising. Will the Ferrari's go back to being red and not orangey/red. Will anyone still be watching?

rustybin

1,769 posts

240 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Big Ron said:
The status of the brand and the level of activation in support of the sponsorship were key criteria for our choice of title sponsor and Vodafone over-delivers in all respects


Good to see he didn't resort to business babble otherwise that could have been confusing.

I assume it means he got a free phone.

FourWheelDrift

88,768 posts

286 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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targarama

14,637 posts

285 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Bit like roulette. They've moved their bet on coverage from the red to black. I reckon they should have just put some money on red AND black then they can't lose

racefan_uk

2,935 posts

258 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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That'll be Ferrari's shove onto the slippery slope then.
What's the bet Schuey definately goes at the end of 06 now? No Vodafone money to pay his wages, no vodafone money to throw at development... lacklustre year in prospect for 07?

If I was Rossi right now, I'd start talking to Ron about a test in a Mercedes powered F1 car.

Dr JonboyG

2,561 posts

241 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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racefan_uk said:
That'll be Ferrari's shove onto the slippery slope then.
What's the bet Schuey definately goes at the end of 06 now? No Vodafone money to pay his wages, no vodafone money to throw at development... lacklustre year in prospect for 07?

If I was Rossi right now, I'd start talking to Ron about a test in a Mercedes powered F1 car.


Heh, you have to love Ferrari's response to all this. [url=www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/48671]Ross Brawn[/url] now thinks that more needs to be done to cut F1 costs! Of course, cost limitations were dismissed out of hand when Ferrari had more money than everyone else in the paddock, but now the little red darlings are feeling the pinch? Boohoo.

flemke

22,880 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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I think this was only possible because Marlboro (Altria/Phillip Morris) earlier this year committed to Ferrari for a number of years going forward. Vodafone (like many global brands) did not want to be associated with a tobacco sponsor. Marlboro, in addition to continuing its previous support, were willing to make up at least some of the lost Vodafone funding. In return it seems that they will have control over the livery of pretty much the entire car.
At those venues where explicit tobacco advertising is barred, we can expect them to try to exploit subliminal advertising as they have done in recent years (series of short white vertical stripes on Marlboro-red field).
Working the opposite angle, I've also read conjecture that Marlboro may begin depicting the frightened donkey image on its cigarette packaging.

thekirbyfake

6,232 posts

237 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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targarama said:
Bit like roulette. They've moved their bet on coverage from the red to black. I reckon they should have just put some money on red AND black then they can't lose

True. It's not like green is going to win

rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Wednesday 14th December 2005
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Long rumoured - due to Phillip Morris's stipulation that the livery was unsullied by any other logos. Why haven't McLaren announced Intel yet, by the way? The deal was done last summer...

Code Monkey

3,305 posts

259 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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no news on the Mclaren site when i looked,

any thoughts on what the colours will be for Mclaren in the new year.
return to the original look of the marlboro with bright red and white, hmm yes please modern version of the old look would be nice.

but this would mean no serious uber cool from the germanesque look of it all. boo shame, need the over the top cool, of black leather, chrome and steel.
red is all too trying too hard.

FourWheelDrift

88,768 posts

286 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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Probably something similar to this

Big pic - www.motorsportphotopage.de/bilder/Lausitzring03/DTM_01.jpg

mg511

1,754 posts

243 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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rubystone said:
Long rumoured - due to Phillip Morris's stipulation that the livery was unsullied by any other logos. Why haven't McLaren announced Intel yet, by the way? The deal was done last summer...


Intel deal must have been undone, they've gone with BMW http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_o

miniman

25,202 posts

264 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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Does this mean McLaren will now be called "mclrn lol ;-0" ?

zax

1,009 posts

265 months

Thursday 15th December 2005
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FourWheelDrift said:
Learn to talk "Ronspeak"

www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ronspeak.php


That translator is damn good... if you enter the Ron quote:

"The status of the brand and the level of activation in support of the sponsorship were key criteria for our choice of title sponsor and Vodafone over-delivers in all respects"

...it comes out exactly the same

andy_b

727 posts

253 months

Saturday 17th December 2005
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re Ferrari, dont forget, Ferrari get paid for the whole livery by Marlboro. All the sponsors like vodafone then pay Marlboro. As Marlboto want a plan car, then thats no big deal for them.

I have read on another forum that the McLarens will run in the traditional McLaren orange livery in the close season. Will be interesting to see what they do in 06. Remember the Silve/Black/White livery is a McLaren one and not a West one, so it could stay (although 6-7 years - could do with a change)

rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Saturday 17th December 2005
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andy_b said:
re Ferrari, dont forget, Ferrari get paid for the whole livery by Marlboro. All the sponsors like vodafone then pay Marlboro. As Marlboto want a plan car, then thats no big deal for them.



I'm sure that this is the case for 2006 and on, but I thought that Phillip Morris were simply title sponsors up until then - I can't see that Ferrari would have stood for someone else having power of veto over their sponsors...

andy_b

727 posts

253 months

Saturday 17th December 2005
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its been like that since the last PM contract was drawn up. Ferrari can pick and choose, but its paid to PM, although with technical sponsors like Shell its a little different

>> Edited by andy_b on Saturday 17th December 20:31

TypeR

1,126 posts

241 months

Monday 19th December 2005
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I bet M Schumacher is glad he wont have to make any more of those crap Vodaphone ads!!