2022: BTCC and support series
Discussion
DanielSan said:
Couldn't make it yesterday thanks to work. What did he say?
Don't know if it was just a bit of JP s**t stirring...Question was asked, did he think he was on Matt Neals xmas card list, answer was more or less yes, they get on now and more or less see eye to eye...
to the point of discussion of next years drive...
poosemon said:
Don't know if it was just a bit of JP s**t stirring...
Question was asked, did he think he was on Matt Neals xmas card list, answer was more or less yes, they get on now and more or less see eye to eye...
to the point of discussion of next years drive...
It wouldn't be the biggest shock, personal relationships aside they've had a few discussions in the past about getting Plato in one of the cars but never resched an agreement. Question was asked, did he think he was on Matt Neals xmas card list, answer was more or less yes, they get on now and more or less see eye to eye...
to the point of discussion of next years drive...
With Dynamics running a 3rd car next year I'm wondering if Henry Neal will be making the move to the main series
Sebring440 said:
WelshPetrolhead said:
Things I've heard fairly recently..
Sutton > Motorbase (NAPA)
Hill > WSR
Hamilton > Excelr8
Goff > Dynamics
Cook > Dynamics
Plato > BTC or Speedworks
Crees > Laser Tools
That's why they call it silly season!Sutton > Motorbase (NAPA)
Hill > WSR
Hamilton > Excelr8
Goff > Dynamics
Cook > Dynamics
Plato > BTC or Speedworks
Crees > Laser Tools
My source was pretty sound last season... https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
BenRichards89 said:
I'll throw a few guesses in here..
Butcher & Sam Smelt at Speedworks
Tom Ingram in a Hyundai
Jade Edwards at BTC
Rowbottom at Team Dynamics
(I've since changed my username)Butcher & Sam Smelt at Speedworks
Tom Ingram in a Hyundai
Jade Edwards at BTC
Rowbottom at Team Dynamics
He's said so far its still early days and lots of things flying around right now as to be expected. If I get anything else from him then I'll update.
WelshPetrolhead said:
Things I've heard fairly recently..
Sutton > Motorbase (NAPA)
Hill > WSR
Hamilton > Excelr8
Goff > Dynamics
Cook > Dynamics
Plato > BTC or Speedworks
Crees > Laser Tools
Goff has a 2 year deal at Hard, Although if there was a drive at Dynamics on the table you would go looking even if you had a contract in place..... Sutton > Motorbase (NAPA)
Hill > WSR
Hamilton > Excelr8
Goff > Dynamics
Cook > Dynamics
Plato > BTC or Speedworks
Crees > Laser Tools
Just hope he doesn't lose both seats
trackdemon said:
greeny12 said:
trackdemon said:
WelshPetrolhead said:
Things I've heard fairly recently..
Hamilton > Excelr8
FF$ Hamilton > Excelr8
Sgt Joe Roberts said:
trackdemon said:
greeny12 said:
trackdemon said:
WelshPetrolhead said:
Things I've heard fairly recently..
Hamilton > Excelr8
FF$ Hamilton > Excelr8
Sgt Joe Roberts said:
Excelr8 entered four cars in 2021, Ingram, Smilie, Butel and Parfitt. I don't remember seeing Butel and Parfitt anywhere near the front. Parfitt finished the season on the same number of points as Hamilton and Butel was only four points ahead of him. Butel and Parfitt raced in a car that was winning races and challenging for the champsionship, Hamilton was not. If Hamilton signs for Excelr8 I would expect him to do as good a job as two of the people who drove for them in 2021.
Hey! Don't diss ol' trackdemon! He wouldn't have chosen a username like that unless he really was a track demon and had been around the paddocks for donkey's years. This guy knows his stuff! He's probably a really well-known driver hiding behind that username.trackdemon said:
The very definition of a pay driver.
That's correct! It's the way it is in British motorsport — very few drivers get "paid" to drive for a team, especially in the BTCC.Sebring440 said:
Sgt Joe Roberts said:
Excelr8 entered four cars in 2021, Ingram, Smilie, Butel and Parfitt. I don't remember seeing Butel and Parfitt anywhere near the front. Parfitt finished the season on the same number of points as Hamilton and Butel was only four points ahead of him. Butel and Parfitt raced in a car that was winning races and challenging for the champsionship, Hamilton was not. If Hamilton signs for Excelr8 I would expect him to do as good a job as two of the people who drove for them in 2021.
Hey! Don't diss ol' trackdemon! He wouldn't have chosen a username like that unless he really was a track demon and had been around the paddocks for donkey's years. This guy knows his stuff! He's probably a really well-known driver hiding behind that username.trackdemon said:
The very definition of a pay driver.
That's correct! It's the way it is in British motorsport — very few drivers get "paid" to drive for a team, especially in the BTCC.I'm well aware that almost everyone on the grid needs to bring money for their seat (even multiple champions), given the lack of works teams nowadays. But those guys bringing money get it because they can walk the walk and have a proven track record of success or at least being competitive. Cammish, Sutton, Plato, Ingram, Chilton - they all need to (and do) bring money, but have a track record and reputation to back it up. In the case of some others, and certainly NH, the money isn't because of results. There's drivers who bring money, and there's people who bring money to drive....
A copy and paste of mine from earlier this year when someone else complained about Nic Hamilton being a BTCC driver.
I think it's really unfair the Nic Hamilton gets singled out in this way. Yes when you look at the grid he's usually at the back and when you see the qualifying times he can be a second or more away from pole but if you compare him to the other three Cupras he's competitive. He's been in the Passat and now the Cupra and neither car is capable of competing with the likes of Sutton, Turkington or The Wookie. He has two team mates who have won BTCC races and they can't get the car in to the top twenty. Have a look at the qualifying results from Silverstone, Hamilton is less than 0.5 seconds behind Aron Taylor-Smith who was the fastest of the Cupras.
I would be a lot more critical of people like Smelt, Butel, Edwards, Osborne, Boardley and Neate who are sitting in cars that their teams mates are winning races in but they're at the back third of the grid every race. They are the ones who appear to have 'eventful' races every single time.
I think it's really unfair the Nic Hamilton gets singled out in this way. Yes when you look at the grid he's usually at the back and when you see the qualifying times he can be a second or more away from pole but if you compare him to the other three Cupras he's competitive. He's been in the Passat and now the Cupra and neither car is capable of competing with the likes of Sutton, Turkington or The Wookie. He has two team mates who have won BTCC races and they can't get the car in to the top twenty. Have a look at the qualifying results from Silverstone, Hamilton is less than 0.5 seconds behind Aron Taylor-Smith who was the fastest of the Cupras.
I would be a lot more critical of people like Smelt, Butel, Edwards, Osborne, Boardley and Neate who are sitting in cars that their teams mates are winning races in but they're at the back third of the grid every race. They are the ones who appear to have 'eventful' races every single time.
Sgt Joe Roberts said:
A copy and paste of mine from earlier this year when someone else complained about Nic Hamilton being a BTCC driver.
I think it's really unfair the Nic Hamilton gets singled out in this way. Yes when you look at the grid he's usually at the back and when you see the qualifying times he can be a second or more away from pole but if you compare him to the other three Cupras he's competitive. He's been in the Passat and now the Cupra and neither car is capable of competing with the likes of Sutton, Turkington or The Wookie. He has two team mates who have won BTCC races and they can't get the car in to the top twenty. Have a look at the qualifying results from Silverstone, Hamilton is less than 0.5 seconds behind Aron Taylor-Smith who was the fastest of the Cupras.
I would be a lot more critical of people like Smelt, Butel, Edwards, Osborne, Boardley and Neate who are sitting in cars that their teams mates are winning races in but they're at the back third of the grid every race. They are the ones who appear to have 'eventful' races every single time.
I think it's really unfair the Nic Hamilton gets singled out in this way. Yes when you look at the grid he's usually at the back and when you see the qualifying times he can be a second or more away from pole but if you compare him to the other three Cupras he's competitive. He's been in the Passat and now the Cupra and neither car is capable of competing with the likes of Sutton, Turkington or The Wookie. He has two team mates who have won BTCC races and they can't get the car in to the top twenty. Have a look at the qualifying results from Silverstone, Hamilton is less than 0.5 seconds behind Aron Taylor-Smith who was the fastest of the Cupras.
I would be a lot more critical of people like Smelt, Butel, Edwards, Osborne, Boardley and Neate who are sitting in cars that their teams mates are winning races in but they're at the back third of the grid every race. They are the ones who appear to have 'eventful' races every single time.
What is this place coming to, you seem to have posted a reasoned debate without resorting to personal jibes
Fair point, I'll make sure I keep a closer eye on BTCC '22 for the relative performance of those folks in cars with good race potential in them
trackdemon said:
What is this place coming to, you seem to have posted a reasoned debate without resorting to personal jibes
Fair point, I'll make sure I keep a closer eye on BTCC '22 for the relative performance of those folks in cars with good race potential in themHe's doing a lot for the sport was well. He did a Twitch stream the other night showing an onboard video of him driving the Cupra and he was busy explaining to the people in the chat, many who seemed to have no idea about racing outside of F1, how the car works, what the BTCC is etc etc.
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