The Official Japanese GP Thread 2012 ***SPOILERS***

The Official Japanese GP Thread 2012 ***SPOILERS***

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FloppyRaccoon

1,916 posts

168 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Crafty_ said:
Lewis blamed himself entirely for the setup change, he had an issue and thought he could fix it with a change, he was wrong. I think I'm right in saying its one of his worst qualifying performances ?
Don't remember him ever being that far off through fault of his own, so yeah, I'd agree with you there.

Clevers

1,171 posts

203 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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FloppyRaccoon said:
I don't think comparing qualifying performances is where you're going to win the argument. I rate them both very highly, but qualifying tends to be stronger for Hamilton.
To be honest I am not really into the whole Lewis is better or Button is better argument. Overall, my personal view is Lewis is quicker but the issue is, on days like today, when he needs to get it right, it doesn't happen and that's why his results don't bear out his talent. It was hugely important that he qualified well today, but he's in trouble now.

Frankly if he'd set the car up blind folded he'd have done better than 9th.

HarryW

15,169 posts

271 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Crafty_ said:
Lewis blamed himself entirely for the setup change, he had an issue and thought he could fix it with a change, he was wrong. I think I'm right in saying its one of his worst qualifying performances ?
What I don't get is it is a two car team, was hamiltons set up so far away from buttons that it left him 1 second adrift, yes it was.
I'd say the team should at least monitor what each car set up is and advise the race engineers they are poles apart and not helping the team (constructor). 1 second apart is far apart in set up its like one half of the team said we're going to try running it on three wheels as there is less drag on the straights and the team saying 'OK then try it, let us know how you get on'........

Scuffers

20,887 posts

276 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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HarryW said:
What I don't get is it is a two car team, was hamiltons set up so far away from buttons that it left him 1 second adrift, yes it was.
I'd say the team should at least monitor what each car set up is and advise the race engineers they are poles apart and not helping the team (constructor). 1 second apart is far apart in set up its like one half of the team said we're going to try running it on three wheels as there is less drag on the straights and the team saying 'OK then try it, let us know how you get on'........
being realistic, it's not 1 second though, that was just the fallout of qualifying....

HarryW

15,169 posts

271 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Scuffers said:
HarryW said:
What I don't get is it is a two car team, was hamiltons set up so far away from buttons that it left him 1 second adrift, yes it was.
I'd say the team should at least monitor what each car set up is and advise the race engineers they are poles apart and not helping the team (constructor). 1 second apart is far apart in set up its like one half of the team said we're going to try running it on three wheels as there is less drag on the straights and the team saying 'OK then try it, let us know how you get on'........
being realistic, it's not 1 second though, that was just the fallout of qualifying....
Though b=1:31.290 h=1:32.327?

Scuffers

20,887 posts

276 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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HarryW said:
Scuffers said:
HarryW said:
What I don't get is it is a two car team, was hamiltons set up so far away from buttons that it left him 1 second adrift, yes it was.
I'd say the team should at least monitor what each car set up is and advise the race engineers they are poles apart and not helping the team (constructor). 1 second apart is far apart in set up its like one half of the team said we're going to try running it on three wheels as there is less drag on the straights and the team saying 'OK then try it, let us know how you get on'........
being realistic, it's not 1 second though, that was just the fallout of qualifying....
Though b=1:31.290 h=1:32.327?
err... and if Lewis had completed his last run without the Kimi flag?

we don't know, so we can;t say if the 1 sec is real or not can we?

AlexS

1,552 posts

234 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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HarryW said:
Scuffers said:
HarryW said:
What I don't get is it is a two car team, was hamiltons set up so far away from buttons that it left him 1 second adrift, yes it was.
I'd say the team should at least monitor what each car set up is and advise the race engineers they are poles apart and not helping the team (constructor). 1 second apart is far apart in set up its like one half of the team said we're going to try running it on three wheels as there is less drag on the straights and the team saying 'OK then try it, let us know how you get on'........
being realistic, it's not 1 second though, that was just the fallout of qualifying....
Though b=1:31.290 h=1:32.327?
Unlike Kamui, Lewis slowed properly for the yellow flag.

Steamer

13,887 posts

215 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Sir Bagalot said:
Steamer said:
Sir Bagalot said:
Steamer said:
Well the BBC are pulling out all the stops this weekend rolleyes

STILL non of the 5 live recordings work on the iplayer, and when I popped along to their website to see what time they are showing the qualifying it would seem they don't care much for 'spoiler alerts'...

...Top of the page banner, 3 faces in a post quali interview... not much point in waiting for their show at 1pm today then.

Nice one BBC.
Get real FFS. It's a website, why the hell wouldn't you expect them to have the results!?!
With the schedule at the bottom of the page.. and a photo of the 3 top qualifiers as the header image on the same page.. thats REAL good thinking.
Huh? You missed the live qualifying which is fair enough. If you're going to watch it delayed then the rule is quite simple. Avoid all media. That way you won't get the results. Going to the BBC Sport website, or even the main page, expecting not to see the result is a little bit silly.

Edited by Sir Bagalot on Saturday 6th October 14:58
When the BBC only offer a service which is a 'highlight' broadcast - why on earth are they publishing photos showing the results BEFORE their own service has even been aired!? No problem with them listing the results - but not a huge photo of the 3 top guys sat in post quali interview!!! especially at the top frickin' same page as their own schedule!

Private Pile

754 posts

197 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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O/T, has anyone got a link they can send me for the race?

Thanks

FloppyRaccoon

1,916 posts

168 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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AlexS said:
HarryW said:
Scuffers said:
HarryW said:
What I don't get is it is a two car team, was hamiltons set up so far away from buttons that it left him 1 second adrift, yes it was.
I'd say the team should at least monitor what each car set up is and advise the race engineers they are poles apart and not helping the team (constructor). 1 second apart is far apart in set up its like one half of the team said we're going to try running it on three wheels as there is less drag on the straights and the team saying 'OK then try it, let us know how you get on'........
being realistic, it's not 1 second though, that was just the fallout of qualifying....
Though b=1:31.290 h=1:32.327?
Unlike Kamui, Lewis slowed properly for the yellow flag.
To be fair, Lewis said himself that the yellow flags really didn't make much of a difference to him.

vonuber

17,868 posts

167 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Vettel is now third on the all time list of pole sitters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_d...

FloppyRaccoon

1,916 posts

168 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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vonuber said:
Vettel is now third on the all time list of pole sitters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_d...
Jeez there's quite a big gap to the next two.

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Steamer said:
Well the BBC are pulling out all the stops this weekend rolleyes

STILL non of the 5 live recordings work on the iplayer, and when I popped along to their website to see what time they are showing the qualifying it would seem they don't care much for 'spoiler alerts'...

...Top of the page banner, 3 faces in a post quali interview... not much point in waiting for their show at 1pm today then.

Nice one BBC.
iPlayer has the schedule for TV on it on the front page...

Yes its a bit silly to have news on the main BBC schedule page but that's why you can't rely on other people. Make it impossible to find out the results and you won't find out the results. Going anywhere near the BBC main site is asking for trouble.

Edited by MSTRBKR on Saturday 6th October 16:07

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Am I the only one hoping for rain tomorrow?

playalistic

2,269 posts

166 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Jasandjules said:
Am I the only one hoping for rain tomorrow?
Same here. As ever it should mix things up. Otherwise I feel the red bulls could walk it from the front.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

230 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Nah, nice dry race, the racing will still be good, and be nicer day for the fans.

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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stephen300o said:
Nah, nice dry race, the racing will still be good, and be nicer day for the fans.
I am a fan. I will be dry and warm no matter what the weather at the GP biggrin

But a wet race will mix it up enough to make it worth watching.... Otherwise I fear it will be a parade.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

230 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Jasandjules said:
stephen300o said:
Nah, nice dry race, the racing will still be good, and be nicer day for the fans.
I am a fan. I will be dry and warm no matter what the weather at the GP biggrin

But a wet race will mix it up enough to make it worth watching.... Otherwise I fear it will be a parade.
I think Fernando will still do ok even in the dry. wink

vonuber

17,868 posts

167 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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Bedazzled said:
In car footage from Seb's pole lap is now on the Beeb website here. Completely flat with DRS open through 130R... "nailed it!"
Nah it's just the car.

S0 What

3,358 posts

174 months

Saturday 6th October 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Could give him a second wind indeed! Gonna be a good start.
as long as it doesn't give him divine wind ?