2023: BTCC chat & discussion

[super7]

airbusA346 said:

oobster said:

That looked a bad one in the Mini’s, hope Sam Smith is ok.

He was unconscious in the car wasn't he?

Certainly looked like it…. Horrible accident. Made me think he’d had a medical episode on the main straight.

[Wh00sher]

Watched all of the program yesterday (apart from the F4, I always wander off and do something else when they are on).

Like most people, I`m bewildered by the penalty on Hill. Sutton turned across him whilst Hill was going straight, it all just felt felt very strange. Everyone knows if it had been Sutton instead of Hill, no way on Earth would he have lifted, yet he was completely blaming Hill for not doing. Sutton is a brilliant driver, but why don't they ever say "do you know what, I was trying to close him off, I misjudged slightly and we touched". I suppose that's the difference between a professional racing driver and us. They have a focus and self belief we don't

Some good racing in most of the races, De Haan was like watching Harry King a few years ago where he was astonishingly quick or binned it.

[TheBinarySheep]

Is it just me, or do most races not seem to suite the strengths of the BMWs.

I felt last year that there were only a handful of races where the BMW's had the upper hand, the rest of the time either that track or conditions didn't suite them.

I wonder if they'd be better switching to a front wheel drive 1 series then at least they'd have parity with the rest of the grid?

[stevemcs]

I think the issue with bmw is that they keep getting restricted so as to reduce the rear wheel drive benefits, although that was mainly for how they launched off the line, I’m not sure if that’s still the case though.

[mat205125]

Bright Halo said:

MG CHRIS said:

Surly that was Sutton cutting across hill that caused the start. How did hill get penalised for that.

I’m very confused by that decision.
Either no penalty at all or Sutton should have had a telling off.

Exactly right!

The wrong driver got a penalty in that decision, and really neither needed penalising.

[BMR]

It’s been posted on here and elsewhere I think that the rumour is TOCA would like them to switch to a FWD BMW.

The BMWs have never liked greasy conditions and I think they did reasonably well yesterday considering.

[Milkyway]

The BTCC races were entertaining, the weather can throw up some strange results.
I tend to switch off when anything about the Hybrid deployment system is mentioned though, I just concentrate on the actual racing.
It was a bit of a Porschefest... but they were watchable.

NB; Whinging Sutton, just admit that you got it wrong... Jake didn’t deserve his grid penalty.

Edited by Milkyway on Monday 24th April 08:58

[TheBinarySheep]

Milkyway said:

The BTCC races were entertaining, the weather can throw up some strange results.
I tend to switch off when anything about the Hybrid deployment system is mentioned though, I just concentrate on the actual racing.
It was a bit of a Porschefest... but they were watchable.

NB; Whinging Sutton... Jake didn’t deserve his grid penalty.

Edited by Milkyway on Monday 24th April 08:56

I thought it was entirely Sutton's fault, strange decision.

[Willhire89]

TheBinarySheep said:

I thought it was entirely Sutton's fault, strange decision.

Sutton also used the side of Ingram's car as his braking point for the hairpin on the last lap of R3 which went unpunished

[super7]

Willhire89 said:

TheBinarySheep said:

I thought it was entirely Sutton's fault, strange decision.

Sutton also used the side of Ingram's car as his braking point for the hairpin on the last lap of R3 which went unpunished

Sutton was totally responsible for that startline issue..... at what point do you think you can cut straight across the whole track and not expect someone to be there. It was a case of look forward and don't look back and when there is a hit, throw your toy's out the pram till the other guy get's penalised.

At what point is Hill suppose to say, "Ah sorry Ash.... after you...!" As was previously said. Sutton would have done the same.

Either way, Hill still got a podium and Sutton walked back to the pits and started at the back in the next round, so in the end his own "billy big bks" behaviour backed fired on him!

[Milkyway]

Maybe a bit of ‘red mist’ at being out qualified by DR... & over keen to show who NAPA’s #1 is. :
I hope ‘Dan Cam’ can have a consistent season... he will certainly give Ash a run for his money.

Edited by Milkyway on Monday 24th April 10:13

[Nononsensecapeesh]

Great start to the 2023 British Touring Car Championship at Donington Park! Great start for Dan Cammish! Great debut for Andrew Watson! The real hero has got to be Nicolas Hamilton though for his Race 2 performance! Happy for Tom Chilton and gutted for Ronan Pearson.

Edited by Nononsensecapeesh on Monday 24th April 12:41

[LukeBrown66]

Dont know if anyone saw him, but Lewis was there at the weekend.

very well wrapped up and incognito, but he was there.

[super7]

LukeBrown66 said:

Dont know if anyone saw him, but Lewis was there at the weekend.

very well wrapped up and incognito, but he was there.

Is that why Nicolas Hamilton had his Visor down during his interview on the grid...... it was really Lewis!!!

[mat205125]

super7 said:

LukeBrown66 said:

Dont know if anyone saw him, but Lewis was there at the weekend.

very well wrapped up and incognito, but he was there.

Is that why Nicolas Hamilton had his Visor down during his interview on the grid...... it was really Lewis!!!

That would be really funny if it was Lewis ...... as he very quickly disappeared backwards down the standings.

[InfamousK]

mat205125 said:

super7 said:

LukeBrown66 said:

Dont know if anyone saw him, but Lewis was there at the weekend.

very well wrapped up and incognito, but he was there.

Is that why Nicolas Hamilton had his Visor down during his interview on the grid...... it was really Lewis!!!

That would be really funny if it was Lewis ...... as he very quickly disappeared backwards down the standings.

To be fair I'm a bit shocked that's his best finish in the BTCC, feels like he's been in it for at least four years, is he unlucky or just a bit crap?

[greeny12]

Enjoyable meeting. Great race 3 in the main series and good to see a strong start for DamCam and Tings.

Loved Wookie's "Rothmans" livery, and enjoyed both Carrera Cup races.

Only black spot was that Mini crash - you hate to see a driver slumped over the wheel like that. Anybody know if he's OK?

[oobster]

greeny12 said:

Enjoyable meeting. Great race 3 in the main series and good to see a strong start for DamCam and Tings.

Loved Wookie's "Rothmans" livery, and enjoyed both Carrera Cup races.

Only black spot was that Mini crash - you hate to see a driver slumped over the wheel like that. Anybody know if he's OK?

Ok'ish: https://www.minichallenge.co.uk/2023/04/24/stateme...

[TheBinarySheep]

greeny12 said:

Enjoyable meeting. Great race 3 in the main series and good to see a strong start for DamCam and Tings.

Loved Wookie's "Rothmans" livery, and enjoyed both Carrera Cup races.

Only black spot was that Mini crash - you hate to see a driver slumped over the wheel like that. Anybody know if he's OK?

https://www.minichallenge.co.uk/2023/04/24/statement-sam-smith/

[greeny12]

Thanks guys - not too bad under the circumstances.